Possible confession to murders of Ashley Freeman and Lauria Bible

[crystaldawn]

It appears as though Jeremy Jones may have confessed to their murder and gave them some fairly specific information as to where their bodies could be found. The search continues but as of yet their bodies have not been found. Here is the link:

www.ktul.com/news/stories/0105/198980.html

[U.M. Fanatic]

I hope this turn of events leads, at last, to a conclusion to this case. I hope if Jeremy did do it, he doesnt play around, and just tells the police what he did with the girls.

[jeeps]

I say we send him down one of those mine shafts to "look" for the missing girls. The hard way.

jeeps

[The_Urban_Prince]

Originally Posted by jeeps

I say we send him down one of those mine shafts to "look" for the missing girls. The hard way.

jeeps

lol......i was shocked at the muderous legacy this guy left behind.he's the type of person whom have killed so much he probably doesn't even remember most of them

[themaninblack]

yep! no wonder they have the man in safe keeping right here in mobile!
i think they have not even yet identified all of the women he may have killed

[mozartpc27]

This is a really sad case, and I sure hope they someday catch whoever did this. However, I'm not at all convinced that this Jeremy Jones character is the man responsible, though the fact that he lived nearby at the time of the muder/disappearance makes it impossible to rule out. If I'm just going by the story he gave authorities about how he murdered this family, though, I'm thinking he doesn't knoe what he's talking about.

According to the AP account, Jeremy Jones, "after posing as their rescuer," kidnapped Ashley and Laura, and eventually killed them. He evidently claimed that "he went to the Freeman home to confront Danny Freeman about some money he allegedly owed to one of Jones' friends," and that he "went into the unlocked mobile home... [and] he shot Danny and Kathy Freeman and then set a pile of old clothes on fire." Jones told authorities that the "the girls came running out and he said, 'Come on. Let's go get help.'"

That story doesn't make any sense. This was a trailer, not a mansion. Surely the girls would have noticed him barging in and shooting people and then setting a fire before he would have had a chance to leave the trailer. So they couldn't possibly have mistaken him for someone willing to help them. Moreover, even if they hadn't seen him, wouldn't they have been he least bit suspiscious that a dude just happened to be waiting outside in a vehicle waiting for them to come out in the middle of the night, just as the trailer was inexplicably burning to the gorund?

The article goes on to mention that Jones was arrested early the next morning for public intoxication. So he had to drive somewhere and unload the bodies before returning, drunk, only to be arrested on that minor charge? Doesn't seem overly likely to me.

[kamy]

My initial thought when I read his "confession" is "Show me the bodies!"

[kamy]

Welcome to the board, softenthesilence---you're new aren't you? You are doing a great job contributing and analyzing the cases. Just wanted to say welcome!

[kadrmas15]

Well, one must remember, the local sheriff's department and Danny Freeman were well known enemies. Danny was very angry and blamed the sheriff's department for his son's death and of course he had threatened to file a civil suit against the sheriff's department for wrongful death.

Needless to say the sheriff's department and the Freeman's were huge enemies at this time they had used intimidation, bogus traffic stops, threats of arrest, various things to get Freeman to not file the suit. It is safe to assume that this suit would have been filed had the Freeman's survived. I am still not beyond believing a member of the sheriff's department could have been involved in this murder.

In terms of the girls, maybe at first it would have been believable that Ashley murdered her parents and took Laura with her. It was well known that Ashley and her father did not get along. However, why kill her mom too? While Ashley and Danny didnt get along very well, it has never even been alleged that Ashley and her mom didnt get along. Also these girls were young teens that had never been in trouble with the law before, so I think had they done this at most they would have lasted a few weeks on the run before turning up.

It could have been drug dealers that did this, Danny was involved in drug dealing and had made enemies there too. I doubt Ashley Freeman or Laura Bible are still alive, my guess is that they were murdered not too long after they disappeared and their bodies disposed of.

But the way that the house was torched, clearly whoever did this, was either trying to give the impression it was a house fire, or they were trying to destroy trace evidence, DNA, hairs, fibers, etc. But then whoever did this killing wanted to make it look like the girls did it? There is just something that I am missing on the case, I will have to research it more.

[kadrmas15]

Well, I dont know, like I said, the sheriff's department, despite the whole feud with the Freeman's, it is still a long shot that they were behind this, but I do not rule them out. But I do think this effected how they handled the investigation, I believe the sheriff's department under pressure turned the investigation over to outside agencies.

I actually do not agree that this was a random act. I am not saying it is impossible this was random, but I think it is unlikely. The fire obviously destroyed a lot of evidence. However, while it is more likely for parents to kill their children than vice versa, this doesnt hold up as much when the children are the age Ashley and her friend Laura were at the time, Ashley was 16 the day her parents were killed, Laura I believe was 17. While parents have murdered their children that were around this age as well, it is less common than parents murdering smaller children.

I think that whoever did this, knew the Freeman's in some way, shape or form. They might not have been friends, but I just have that feeling this was done by someone the Freeman's or at least by someone that Danny Freeman knew. But then the question still remains, why take the girls and presumably kill them after kidnapping them and sexually assaulting them?

My guess would be the girls were taken to throw the investigators off the trail. Tither that or the person or persons (I believe there most likely was at least 2 if not more individuals involved) were surprised that the girls were there and had just expected Danny and his wife to be home. We do know everyone was alive and well at 9:30 pm, assuming the boyfriend was telling the truth. Was he Laura's boyfriend? Or Ashley's?

This would have been during Christmas vacation from school, so I guess I always found it a little odd how the boyfriend left as early as he did, but then again, 16 year old's, 17 year old's have curfew's so again, maybe not so unusual, it is hard to tell. But to me, the whole random theory, simply doesnt add up.

I just have a hard time believing some people out in rural Oklahoma driving around on December 29th, 1999 in the evening hours decided (hey, lets invade that trailer for seemingly no reason, shoot the parents, kidnap the girls to make it look like they killed the parents).

It is an opinion of mine, whoever did this, staked out the home, that they had been watching the home probably after dark. Perhaps they were waiting for the boyfriend and Laura Bible to leave because their beef wasnt with those two but with the Freeman's, specifically Danny. However they probably were not expecting Laura to stay the night, so when the boyfriend left alone, they probably figured, time to move and they probably did not too long after.

Obviously this happened sometime between 9:30 pm when the boyfriend left and 5:30 am when either a neighbor or a passer by noticed the trailer in flames. Since it was still burning bright, it hadnt been burning for an extremely long time, so, it almost makes me wonder, if this whole murder thing didnt happen until hours after the boyfriend left, probably more likely this happened between the hours of 12 midnight and before 5:30 am. But again this is all my opinion, it is also my opinion that Ashley and Laura were taken away from the scene alive.

[mozartpc27]

Originally Posted by SoftentheSilence

Again, I believe the fact that Ashley and Laura were not found at the scene proves that this was not a planned hit. Had the sheriff's dept. planned to kill Danny Freeman, then one could assume that they would've killed everyone inside the house and left all of the bodies to burn in the trailer. The fact that Ashley and Laura's bodies were not found at the trailer would lead me to believe that this was a random act done by a random person that was passing through that town. According to what I've read, the Freeman's lived in a remote location that wasn't heavily populated. This means that if the murderers were local, they more than likely would've disposed of the bodies within a close radius of the murders (30 miles or less I'm guessing).

I feel that once the perp(s) realized that there were two teenage girls in the trailer, they decided to abduct them, assault them, kill them, and then bury them in a remote location at least 100 miles away from where the Freeman's lived.

I've bolded some passages above because I think there are some inconsistencies here. If the murders were truly "random," as you suggest, what motivated them? Killing an entire family just for the hell of it? If what you mean by saying the murders were "random" is that a stranger to the family committed them, my guess would be that the girls, were, in fact, the principle targets of the attack. In other words, the killer first stalked out the place, noticing that there was at least one (Ashley) and, when Laura arrived, two teenaged girls in the house, that he could kidnap to use as sexual objects. In order to do this, he needed to kill everyone else inside.

But the way you write it, it sounds like the murderer(s) decided to kill the entire family first, but then, when he/they realized there were young teenage girls present, they then decided to kidnap those two and murder the rest. But, if that's the case, why would they have decided to murder the family in the first place? We know robbery wasn't the motive, since such a large amount of cash belonging to one of the girls was left behind. What other motive could there have been the motive for the random killer(s)? The only way that scenario makes sense to me is if this in fact was a hit after all. In other words, if one or two people were hired or "drafted" to go over there and kill Mr. Freeman and his family, but then decided, before finishing the job, to kidnap the two girls and use them for his (their) own purposes before killing them, somewhere away from the site of the initial attack.

If it was a stranger, i'm sure it was motivated by sexual desire for the two teenaged girls.

Originally Posted by SoftentheSilence

The only theory I can come up with in terms of the Sheriff's Dept. being guilty is that they purposefully buried the girls' bodies away from the trailer in an attempt to place the blame on the girls'. But again, if this was the case, it would make more sense to do the opposite, by which I mean to leave the girls' bodies at the trailer and hide the parents bodies. It's much more believable to think that parents would kill their children rather than the other way around.

It is? What makes you say that?

My guess, by the way, is that some sexual predator did this whole thing.

[kadrmas15]

I dont know, the girls might have been made sexual use of before their presumed murders, but I still in my opinion, do not believe the girls were the primary target although Mozart that is an interesting theory on your part that you think the girls, specifically Ashley was the target and not her parents.

In my opinion the kidnapping of the girls was an after thought, or the arson was an afterthought, while this appears to be well planned by whoever did this, certain things were done to throw investigators off the trail. Like the arson, is why I do not believe this was just some random attack, if it was random, why burn the house? Yes it is probably this was done at least in part to destroy trace evidence and to attempt to cover up evidence of murder, they were probably hoping the authorities would just think it was an accidental fire and let it be at that.

However, who kidnapped the girls, would know that when their bodies were not found that the authorities would probably at least consider that perhaps the girls killed the parents and then fled and burned down the house to cover up the crime.

The only other possibility is that Ashley Freeman for whatever reason did murder her parents. But I consider this to be unlikely, since while she and Danny didnt get along, she didnt have any known major issues with her mom, also if Ashley was going to kill her parents I think she would have done it when there was no company over, Laura by all accounts got along well with her parents and had no reason to flee, so while possible that Ashley killed her parents and then fled with Laura this is in my opinion extremely unlikely and the least likely besides the random break in theory.

Mozart, I was wondering your opinion of my post that was right before yours? It seems you and I share the theory that it was likely that whoever did this, had been staking out the Freeman home the night this happened and had probably spent hours watching it and had planned this for sometime.

[Huskerz85]

Originally Posted by kadrmas15

Mozart, I was wondering your opinion of my post that was right before yours? It seems you and I share the theory that it was likely that whoever did this, had been staking out the Freeman home the night this happened and had probably spent hours watching it and had planned this for sometime.

I agree completely with your theory too......someone who had a beef with Danny Freeman had been planning some kind of hit on him and was about to execute it on the night in question, but didn't expect/plan for Ashley and Lauria to be there.

They were kidnapped as an afterthought.....but as for why the fire and everything was set the way it was.....I feel it was just to cover up the crime/destroy any physical evidence traces (as well as generally confuse the investigators).

Generally noone but absolute professionals have the right balls-to-brains ratio to pull off something like this and leave no traces.......

[mozartpc27]

Originally Posted by kadrmas15

Mozart, I was wondering your opinion of my post that was right before yours? It seems you and I share the theory that it was likely that whoever did this, had been staking out the Freeman home the night this happened and had probably spent hours watching it and had planned this for sometime.

Yes, I agree that the likelihood is that someone targeted the place (because of the girls), stalked it out for awhile, then picked a moment to strike after planning it for some time.

[Coffeeface]

Yep, I always thought that about this case. I didn't really think the cops had anything to do with it. Just my opinion. Oh, the link to the news report doesn't work?