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Jack1000 · 04-26-2005, 12:58 PM

Guys,

I am sure this is as obvious one:

In "A Clubhouse Is Not A Home" where Mike and Carol are talking about the kids sharing what they have together and are debating if all the kids should play in the same clubhouse, Carol says,

Carol: "Well, I'm sure that if the girls had a dollhouse and the boys wanted to play in it there wouldn't be any problem."

Mike's line is:

Mike: "Oh yes there would, if my sons wanted to play in anybody's dollhouse I'd take them to a psychiatrist!"

I would suspect that Mike's original line was more along the likes of:

"Of course not honey, we're a family, and the kids should learn to play together."

Who wants to bet that Robert Reed saw that line:

"Well, I'm sure that if the girls had a dollhouse and the boys wanted to play in it there wouldn't be any problem."

and threatend to leave the show or had some other major conniption if it wasn't changed, and Sherwood either did it, or Reed talked to a head staffer at Paramount to get that line changed? Mike's line about the psychiatrist is very funny! But it just doesn't sound like something that Sherwood and his staff would put in there on their own.

Jack

Jack1000 · 03-24-2009, 09:00 AM

We cannot know for sure what lines, scripts, or scene changes Robert Reed may have demanded be changed, but there are some instances that "sound like his influence." Here's a few off the top of my head:

In "Kitty Karry-All is Missing" Mike's speech about how democracy works and due process of law. "Innocent until proven guilty." to Greg and Marcia.

In "Juliet is the Sun." Probably almost everything about that episode. The school doing Romeo and Juliet, the lines from the play read I am sure were exact. (Reed used to teach Shakespeare at UCLA.)

Mike's talk with Greg about buying and selling business practices in "The Wheeler Dealer." The definition of "Caviet Emptor."

Carol telling Bobby about Napoleon getting beaten up by losing fights as a historical reference in "Little Big Man." Using this example to encourage Bobby to use his brains, not his muscles. Also Bobby telling Greg and Mike what the forth-largest river in the world is, and how television works.(Episode directed by Reed.)

Mike's speech when talking to Mr. Delafield in "Tell it Like it Is." how, "You can't mix a second marriage, six children, a husband, a housekeeper and a dog and come up with Romeo and Juliet." Mike saying, "What's wrong with that?" when Mr. Delafield says that Carol's story, "tells it like it is, that's all."

Jack

Waterston_Fan · 03-24-2009, 04:00 PM

And we don't know if there were any changes Reed wanted to some epiosdes that were deemed stupid.

Like 'Love and the Older Man' that I would think Reed would have objected to.

Can't think of any others but that is one I can think of.

Jack1000 · 03-25-2009, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Waterston_Fan

And we don't know if there were any changes Reed wanted to some epiosdes that were deemed stupid.

Like 'Love and the Older Man' that I would think Reed would have objected to.

Can't think of any others but that is one I can think of.

While I have the utmost respect for Sherwood, Lloyd, and Bob, for what they brought to this series, you can see how much Bob hated any type of slapstick comedy, and Sherwood had a foundation for that type of humor with Gilligan's Island. It's easy to see why they would always have conflicts.

Jack

Waterston_Fan · 03-25-2009, 09:55 AM

Yeah, exactly. And he probably saw Gilligan's Island too and though it was stupid.

sixfingers · 03-30-2009, 01:06 AM

In My Brother's Keeper Mike's line about the paint being water based before he hoses Bobby off seems unnecessary, I suspect that it was added at RR's insistence.

Smartboy · 03-31-2009, 01:05 AM

I am not really sure what the significance of the paint being water-based is.

Waterston_Fan · 03-31-2009, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Smartboy

I am not really sure what the significance of the paint being water-based is.

I think it's that the paint on Bobby's clothes would be clean when Mike hoses Bobby off.

Jack1000 · 04-06-2009, 07:01 AM

Here is one that we do know!

In "Jan The Only Child" where Alice are Carol are making Strawberry preservers for the hoedown square dance, Reed's line when coming into the kitchen was supposed to be, "Mmmm, it sure smells like strawberry heaven." Reed and Sherwood got into this HUGE argument with Reed insisting that strawberries emit no smell when they are cooking. Sherwood insisted that he could smell the strawberry's cooking all over the stage. Bob refused to show up on the set until that line was changed. Originally the compromise was, "It sure looks like strawberry heaven." Reed said he could say that. The line that they finally settled on was, " I do believe I've died and gone to strawberry heaven."

I think Sherwood is right about the strawberries and not Robert this time! We eat strawberries when they are in season and I can smell them before eating them, so I would think that their scent would be stronger when cooked.

Jack

Waterston_Fan · 04-06-2009, 09:26 AM

Maybe Robert didn't have a sense of smell?

Benny JR · 04-15-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Waterston_Fan

Maybe Robert didn't have a sense of smell?

Or apparently a sense of humour for that matter, LoL! He REALLY should have loosened up, did he think that these little changes would have helped at all? If anything, they probably worsened it. Robert needed to grow up and stop being so childish. He was hired to do a job and that was all. The Producers did not ask for his opinion and when he voiced it, he didn't help at all.

Waterston_Fan · 04-15-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Benny JR

Or apparently a sense of humour for that matter, LoL! He REALLY should have loosened up, did he think that these little changes would have helped at all? If anything, they probably worsened it. Robert needed to grow up and stop being so childish. He was hired to do a job and that was all. The Producers did not ask for his opinion and when he voiced it, he didn't help at all.

Yeah. There are times where I think he should have grown up but sometimes I don't blame him. But I know of one time where he saved the kids and Carol from getting hurt in the episode where they went to Cincinnati. I got the sense that they decided to try out the camera with no one in the roller coaster car with Bob's instance and turns out he was right.

04-26-2005, 12:58 PM	#1
Jack1000 Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 05, 2001 Posts: 2,055	Lines You Just KNOW Robert Reed Demanded by Changed. Guys, I am sure this is as obvious one: In "A Clubhouse Is Not A Home" where Mike and Carol are talking about the kids sharing what they have together and are debating if all the kids should play in the same clubhouse, Carol says, Carol: "Well, I'm sure that if the girls had a dollhouse and the boys wanted to play in it there wouldn't be any problem." Mike's line is: Mike: "Oh yes there would, if my sons wanted to play in anybody's dollhouse I'd take them to a psychiatrist!" I would suspect that Mike's original line was more along the likes of: "Of course not honey, we're a family, and the kids should learn to play together." Who wants to bet that Robert Reed saw that line: "Well, I'm sure that if the girls had a dollhouse and the boys wanted to play in it there wouldn't be any problem." and threatend to leave the show or had some other major conniption if it wasn't changed, and Sherwood either did it, or Reed talked to a head staffer at Paramount to get that line changed? Mike's line about the psychiatrist is very funny! But it just doesn't sound like something that Sherwood and his staff would put in there on their own. Jack

03-24-2009, 09:00 AM	#2
Jack1000 Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 05, 2001 Posts: 2,055	We cannot know for sure what lines, scripts, or scene changes Robert Reed may have demanded be changed, but there are some instances that "sound like his influence." Here's a few off the top of my head: In "Kitty Karry-All is Missing" Mike's speech about how democracy works and due process of law. "Innocent until proven guilty." to Greg and Marcia. In "Juliet is the Sun." Probably almost everything about that episode. The school doing Romeo and Juliet, the lines from the play read I am sure were exact. (Reed used to teach Shakespeare at UCLA.) Mike's talk with Greg about buying and selling business practices in "The Wheeler Dealer." The definition of "Caviet Emptor." Carol telling Bobby about Napoleon getting beaten up by losing fights as a historical reference in "Little Big Man." Using this example to encourage Bobby to use his brains, not his muscles. Also Bobby telling Greg and Mike what the forth-largest river in the world is, and how television works.(Episode directed by Reed.) Mike's speech when talking to Mr. Delafield in "Tell it Like it Is." how, "You can't mix a second marriage, six children, a husband, a housekeeper and a dog and come up with Romeo and Juliet." Mike saying, "What's wrong with that?" when Mr. Delafield says that Carol's story, "tells it like it is, that's all." Jack
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03-24-2009, 04:00 PM	#3
Waterston_Fan Eternal Member Eternal Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 26, 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 3,195	And we don't know if there were any changes Reed wanted to some epiosdes that were deemed stupid. Like 'Love and the Older Man' that I would think Reed would have objected to. Can't think of any others but that is one I can think of.

03-25-2009, 09:55 AM	#5
Waterston_Fan Eternal Member Eternal Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 26, 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 3,195	Yeah, exactly. And he probably saw Gilligan's Island too and though it was stupid.

03-30-2009, 01:06 AM	#6
sixfingers John Alan Elson Senior Member Join Date: Feb 22, 2008 Location: Sacramento Posts: 1,491	In *My Brother's Keeper* Mike's line about the paint being water based before he hoses Bobby off seems unnecessary, I suspect that it was added at RR's insistence.

03-31-2009, 01:05 AM	#7
Smartboy Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 06, 2007 Location: South Orange, NJ Posts: 4,231	I am not really sure what the significance of the paint being water-based is.

04-06-2009, 07:01 AM	#9
Jack1000 Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 05, 2001 Posts: 2,055	Here is one that we do know! In "Jan The Only Child" where Alice are Carol are making Strawberry preservers for the hoedown square dance, Reed's line when coming into the kitchen was supposed to be, "Mmmm, it sure smells like strawberry heaven." Reed and Sherwood got into this HUGE argument with Reed insisting that strawberries emit no smell when they are cooking. Sherwood insisted that he could smell the strawberry's cooking all over the stage. Bob refused to show up on the set until that line was changed. Originally the compromise was, "It sure looks like strawberry heaven." Reed said he could say that. The line that they finally settled on was, " I do believe I've died and gone to strawberry heaven." I think Sherwood is right about the strawberries and not Robert this time! We eat strawberries when they are in season and I can smell them before eating them, so I would think that their scent would be stronger when cooked. Jack

04-06-2009, 09:26 AM	#10
Waterston_Fan Eternal Member Eternal Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 26, 2005 Location: Southern California Posts: 3,195	Maybe Robert didn't have a sense of smell?