USA Today Renewal Prognosis

[Superbowl]

Here is USA Today's take on what shows should be renewed and on the bubble. Of course, they have 8 Simple Rules On the Bubble.

According to USA Today:

Nearly Dead:

(Note: I only included the ones that have not yet been officialy cancelled)

Complete Savages
Jake in Progress
Rodney
American Dreams
Medical Investigation
Second Time Around

On The Bubble

NBC: Will & Grace , Committed , The Office
CBS: Listen Up , Joan of Arcadia , Judging Amy , Yes, Dear
ABC: Blind Justice , Less Than Perfect , 8 Simple Rules , Eyes
FOX: Life on a Stick , The Bernie Mac Show Arrested Development , Quintuplets
WB: Jack & Bobby , Summerland
UPN: Kevin Hill , All of Us

Shoo-Ins

(Note: I only included shows that have not been officially renewed)

ABC: According to Jim , George Lopez , Grey's Anatomy , Hope & Faith
CBS: CSI , CSI: Miami , CSI: NY , Cold Case , King of Queens , Numb3rs , Still Standing , Two and a Half Men , Without a Trace
FOX: The Simpsons, 24
NBC: Nothing that isn't already renewed
UPN: Cuts , Eve, Girlfriends , Half & Half , One on One
WB: Charmed, Everwood , Gilmore Girls , One Tree Hill , Reba , 7th Heaven, Smallville , What I Like About You

[Brent88]

Cancelled:

Complete Savages
Jake
Rodney
American Dreams
Medical Investigation
Second Time Around?(What channel does this air on?)
Committed
The Office
Listen Up
Blind Justice
Less Than Perfect
Eyes
Life on a Stick
Bernie Mac
Arrested Development
Quintuplets
Jack and Bobby
Kevin Hill

Whew...
I still think 8SR could be cancelled, but I think LTP/Rodney have less of a chance of coming back.

[Superbowl]

Originally Posted by Brent88

Cancelled:

Complete Savages
Jake
Rodney
American Dreams
Medical Investigation
Second Time Around?(What channel does this air on?)
Committed
The Office
Listen Up
Blind Justice
Less Than Perfect
Eyes
Life on a Stick
Bernie Mac
Arrested Development
Quintuplets
Jack and Bobby
Kevin Hill

Whew...
I still think 8SR could be cancelled, but I think LTP/Rodney have less of a chance of coming back.

Is this just your opinion, or did you get this from somewhere ?

[TVFactFan]

Originally Posted by Brent88

Cancelled:

Complete Savages
Jake
Rodney
American Dreams
Medical Investigation
Second Time Around?(What channel does this air on?)
Committed
The Office
Listen Up
Blind Justice
Less Than Perfect
Eyes
Life on a Stick
Bernie Mac
Arrested Development
Quintuplets
Jack and Bobby
Kevin Hill

Whew...
I still think 8SR could be cancelled, but I think LTP/Rodney have less of a chance of coming back.

It's really time for 8 simple to go. I just don't see it getting any better due to the MAJOR hole that had to filled.

[Superbowl]

Originally Posted by TVShow Analyzer

It's really time for 8 simple to go. I just don't see it getting any better due to the MAJOR hole that had to filled.

Here's where I disagree. I think 8SR has found itself more than people give it credit for. The problem is most people have stopped watching it, and have not noticed how the show has gotten better throughout the year. The addition of Adam Arkin as Prinicpal Gibb has given the show something interesting, too. I thought the past couple of new episodes were some of the best of the year.

[Brent88]

Originally Posted by Superbowl

Is this just your opinion, or did you get this from somewhere ?

Strictly my opinion. Some I'm more certain of than others.

[Superbowl]

Like I said before, I am not here to debate whether the show will get cancelled or renewed. I am just here to tell you what the critics are saying. You read the USA Today, story, and here is a couple of more stories I read yesterday on the season finale :


Tom DorseyLouisville Courier Journal :

'Rules' and 'Perfect' may have their swan songs tonight

Two TV shows have their season finales tonight. Signing off before the May ratings sweeps is never a good sign. It indicates the networks don't have much faith in these series' drawing power.
"8 Simple Rules" winds up its third season at 8 on ABC with Katey Sagal's character telling her family that she's going to start dating.
The story line comes almost two years after John Ritter, the star of the show, died. The sitcom was never going great guns from its start in the 2002-03 season when it managed to rank 42nd.
It did a little better when more viewers tuned in out of sympathy and curiosity after Ritter's unexpected death. The producers brought in James Garner to give the series a lift, but by the end of last season it had slipped to 50. That was still good enough to bring it back this season, but as of last week it had fallen to 94 in the Nielsen standings, which is cancellation country.
ABC has had a lot of success this season with such new dramas as "Desperate Housewives," "Lost" and "Grey's Anatomy." But no new sitcoms have caught fire in the ratings. It's still remotely possible that "Rules" could get renewed, but more than likely tonight's episode will be the last one.

Dallas Fort Worth Telegram:
TV Notes
8 Simple Rules: Here's a ninth simple rule: If the network doesn't schedule your third-season finale during May sweeps, your chances of a fourth season are pretty slim. 7 tonight, WFAA/Channel 8

Let's all just send out e-mails to these addresses :

stephen.mcpherson@abc.com

jeff.d.bader@abc.com

netaudr@abc.com

abc.audience.relations@abc.com

All you need to do is right out a few short sentences or paragraphs and copy it, and send it to all four addresses.
Tell them you love the show.
Tell them you want it renewed.
Tell them you want to see it in syndication
Tell them you want to see the John Ritter episodes in syndication.

Let's make sure 8 Simple Rules has a fourth season. Thanks to everyone for your help.

[Auntie]

I've just sent emails to all those addresses that you posted. I sure hope it helps. I've told them all that I thought it would be what Mr. Ritter would've wanted, and that how much I'd love to see them go for another season. which happens to be the truth. But I know in this business, they look for ratings and $$$$$. so we'll see what happens.
By the way, did anyone happen to see the season finale last night? I really thought that the kids would've taken it a lot harder when Cate announced that she and principale Gib were 'offically dating'. I have to admit, I was hard for me to watch, after all, I think it's safe to say that were all used to seeing 'Paul' and 'Cate' together, but I understand that lifedoes go on, I would just think that it's a little too soon for 'Cate' to start dating again. I'm not saying that they shouldn't eventually write in a love interest for her ever again, but at lest for Pete's Sake, give it some time before jumping in again. I mean really, do any of us see or hear anything about Amy Yasbeck dating yet? Nope. The thought hasn't even crossed her mind. Not that I'm sure that she'll never date again, but it's too soon for her, and also she has a little girl to think about first.

[katefandream04]

This is what I found:
Posted on: Friday, April 15, 2005

Tube Notes

By Mike Hughes
Gannett News Service

Tonight's Must-See

"Sheer Dallas" debut, 10 p.m., TLC. At the Miss Dallas County pageant, a contestant is asked an easy question: "What makes you most proud of the state of Texas?" She could have discussed the state's rich tapestry of music or literature. She could have invoked its can-do cowboy spirit. Instead, she said: "I have to say the size. We are one of the biggest states and have one of the largest populations and I think that's just amazing."

If this amuses you, you'll enjoy this reality show set amid Dallas' wealthy and well-known and narrated by Larry Hagman. It depicts a land where the 1980s never ended. Many Americans reverted to flat hair and drab colors but the people shown here prefer big and brassy. Realtor Carolyn Shamis is 62 but works to look half that age. She drives exotic cars and wears fancy gowns while selling mansions. Billy Scoggins is mocked for being a handsome heterosexual in an upscale hair salon. He challenges a colleague to lose weight. We see them tonight as they prepare for the pageant. One contestant worries about the facial reactions of judges. She doesn't know that one judge's face is frozen by a recent botox injection.



Of Note

"Joan of Arcadia," 7 p.m., CBS. Joan is still upset at Adam for cheating on her with Bonnie. Now Adam wants Joan's support but she's reluctant.

"8 Simple Rules," 7 p.m., ABC. First is the season's final episode with Cate (Katey Sagal) admitting she's dating the school principal (Adam Arkin). Then there's a rerun with C.J. (David Spade) trying to date two women on Valentine's Day.

"Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" (2001), 8 p.m., Disney Channel. The first half-hour of this beloved fantasy tale is magical as a mistreated lad learns of a special fate and powers. Things slow down for a while, with too much detail stuffed in, but this still emerges as a grand romp.

"Less than Perfect," 8:30 p.m., ABC. In the season finale, a surprise birthday party for Carl turns into a surprise wedding.

"Law & Order: Trial by Jury," 9 p.m., NBC. This wraps up a crossover that began Wednesday on "Law & Order." The murder of a young lawyer, who had been having sex with many of her colleagues at the law firm, led to a complex investigation. Green (Jesse L. Martin) was shot while transporting a witness. Now Fontana (Dennis Farina) pursues the case with Kibre (Bebe Neuwirth) prosecuting. They face a crisis that endangers her career.

See, this writer makes a note to have people watch it.

[Brent88]

But people didn't... sadly, it pulled in the usual ratings which are terrible.

[katefandream04]

People may not understand this, but it has been doing well overall this season. I think the season finale was really good,and 8SR has more of a chance of continuing than any of those other "bubble" shows. Critics usually had tuned in before John's death and liked it. Most of the critics don't like the changes. But ABC has to understand that there are still fans of the show that appreciate it. Hopefully our letters will be taken into consideration.

[Superbowl]

The show averaged a 3.9 for the hour, so the finale probably got about a 4.0 rating. Not very good, but as good as Hope and Faith, My Wife and Kids, and George Lopez, who have all been renewed. It seems like the network is down on 8SR, even though it gets the same ratings as those shows.

The thing I think is a bad, bad sign is that they had the season finale on April 15, and removed the show from May sweeps. Generally (and yes there are some exceptions), the shows that are pulled from the May sweeps are the ones that are cancelled. If you notice 8SR, Less Than Perfect and Rodney are all out of the May sweeps and the other ABC sitcoms are all in the May sweeps. That is what makes me very pessimistic.

[katefandream04]

Originally Posted by Superbowl

The show averaged a 3.9 for the hour, so the finale probably got about a 4.0 rating. Not very good, but as good as Hope and Faith, My Wife and Kids, and George Lopez, who have all been renewed. It seems like the network is down on 8SR, even though it gets the same ratings as those shows.

The thing I think is a bad, bad sign is that they had the season finale on April 15, and removed the show from May sweeps. Generally (and yes there are some exceptions), the shows that are pulled from the May sweeps are the ones that are cancelled. If you notice 8SR, Less Than Perfect and Rodney are all out of the May sweeps and the other ABC sitcoms are all in the May sweeps. That is what makes me very pessimistic.

NO it didn't...the majority of the season,it got 5-5.6,and 4.0-4.5
It went down TWICE in ratings. The network does care,and this IS the May sweeps. Im sure it has a chance to get renewed,a bigger chance over Less than Perfect.

[Brent88]

Originally Posted by katefandream04

NO it didn't...the majority of the season,it got 5-5.6,and 4.0-4.5
It went down TWICE in ratings. The network does care,and this IS the May sweeps. Im sure it has a chance to get renewed,a bigger chance over Less than Perfect.

Your wrong... May Sweeps doesn't start until April 28th, a full 11 days from now.

Starting in the 5's and dropping to a 4 by April is NOT GOOD AT ALL. Going down only twice?? Well, shows aren't supposed to go down and stay down. Sure, every show has a bad week, but this show's ratings have been bad REPEATEDLY for months.

[Superbowl]

Originally Posted by Brent88

Your wrong... May Sweeps doesn't start until April 28th, a full 11 days from now.

Starting in the 5's and dropping to a 4 by April is NOT GOOD AT ALL. Going down only twice?? Well, shows aren't supposed to go down and stay down. Sure, every show has a bad week, but this show's ratings have been bad REPEATEDLY for months.

The one thing I do not think is fair is, yes, the ratings for 8SR has dropped the past few weeks. However, the ratings for shows like Hope and Faith, My Wife and Kids and George Lopez also have dropped and 8SR has done just as good if not better than all those shows the past couple of weeks. However, those shows are all renewed,and 8SR remains on the chopping block. It seems like a double standard for these shows.

The sign I do not like at all is that they removed 8SR from the May sweeps while most of the other ABC sitcoms including the low rated Hope and Faith remain on for May sweeps. Not a good sign at all.

I have asked this question several times, and still never got an answer. Can someone tell me why Hope and Faith is so safe for renewal when it has the same ratings as 8 Simple Rules (taking into account the 8 vs. 9PM slot) ? Why is 8SR on the chopping block, and Hope and Faith is a sure renewal ? Also, 8SR only needs one more year for syndication, and Hope and Faith needs two years. I just don't get it. Can someone explain it to me ?