Mary McGinnis Morris murder - shut me up?

[Koala]

Any ideas as to why they worked so hard to keep me from speaking to the media? I woudn't be doing this but I'm not getting answers. I am told I failed polygraphs that indicate I planned her death, yet at the time they would not show them to me and for months afterward. Still getting a runaround everytime I try to find out what is going on. (had enough) Attached is a copy of the order or agreement to not talk to any member of the media. If I am to be used as bait please do so but don't ruin my life in the process. This forum is not a member of the media per se. If I am thrown in jail for this please help me for 1st ammendment rights. I apologise for using your forum for my own goals but this case was on UM and I need to be heard. More to come unless I get chucked in jail or get some answers. All I want is a proper investigation.

[Koala]

I watched the UM show on the Mary Morris Murders again with some disgust. If it isn't faked to catch somebody else, Mike Morris and Laurie Gemmell should be in jail. I have no knowledge of what they said about me and no one has ever corroberated it with me. Oh yea. I am the "evil" coworker in the case.

[Koala]

You may ask why I would do this. Have a look at the media. If I am bait, 4 and a half years is a bit long to put up with it. In the first year my company told me I was still an employee but I couldn't work. I was finally given the go ahead to work after more than a year and a half with a few nice apologies as for what happened but they never actually called me to work. In the meantime my wife lost a semester due to stress. That cost $5000 dollars. We are Canadian and she has to pay quadruple tuition as a foreign student. I paid out some money to an attorney initially when Union Carbide was suing me and demanding I sign court orders so I couldn't talk to most people about the case. Anytime the media comes around I can't really respond due to a stupid media gag, so I get slammed. When I complained to AMW about their portrayal of me banging on windows and yelling for Mary like a nut case their attorneys response was "That's what you get for not talking to us". I am more obsessive than I would like to be and have found myself constantly dwelling on the case and hoping for closure. It is my hope that this thread will allow me to move on and leave this behind. You people are about to be busted. You don't leave death threats, make up lies, leave notes in work computers and get away with it. Justice served will also be my revenge. Here is a lot of the written media in a word attachment.

[crystaldawn]

Hi Koala! I know you and I have discussed this situation at length before. I was curious if something has happened lately or are you just fed up with the situation?

[DeeeNah]

Hey Koala. You emailed me before. I just hope life gets better for you.

[mercy1825]

I believe you 100 percent and I am aware how the media portrays things to appear weirder and more complicated than they may actually be. Would you be willing to email me at matthewfazio@hotmail.com so I can email you back. I have a suggestion for you in this situation. My brother is an attorny, and I would really like to attempt to help you out. Good Luck!

[Koala]

Here is a hint (copy of Email sent to a senior detective) of what set me off last week after yet another runaround.
One excerpt of thousands. I figured out the BS after reading a very great many articles on the subject. It is still a useful tool, in my opinion. Quit trying to snow me. Probabilities of pass/fail statistics in polygraphs are not given to within points of a percent as you implied today. I am not trying to deceive you. If you do not want any meddling from me just say so. I just want to do whatever I can. I don't know what you do know and I do not know what you should know in order to assist. Respectfully- Duane

Detectives love lie detectors. They're not infallible -- Hennessy says they're "about as accurate as the weatherman" -- and you can't use the results in court. But they're great props. They put the mighty weight of science on your side and crank up the pressure on the suspect.

A detective uses a lie detector, Leo writes, "as part of his act."

The act goes like this: The suspect says he's telling the truth. You ask if he'll take a polygraph test. If he says no, you use that against him: What are you afraid of, Joe? If he says yes, you wire him up and give him the test. If he fails, you've got a very powerful weapon: Joe, the machine says you're lying.

"A lot of times the guys will break," Fallin says. "They'll start crying. They'll say, 'You got me.' That's perfect -- to have him admit he did it to the polygraph operator."

But what if a suspect you're certain is guilty passes the test? You've got two choices. You can tell him he flunked and keep questioning him. Or you can tell him he passed and take a detailed statement about where he was at the time of the crime. "They're feeling pretty powerful when they've passed the polygraph," says Fallin. "You take a statement of denial and he signs it. He's got to stick to it. And maybe you can prove he's lying."

This decade has seen the rise of a new lie detection machine -- the "computer voice stress analyzer," a device that allegedly identifies falsehoods by measuring inaudible stress in the voice. It's scientific validity is unproven, but cops love it.

"It's a great tool," says Hamill, one of a few Montgomery County detectives trained to use it. "I have had phenomenal success with it. I can just lay it out and say, 'This is a lie . . . Tell me the truth.' And they're just so shocked or so taken aback that they end up coming around."

Hennessy remembers watching D.C. police Lt. Jim Boteler use the voice stress analyzer to coax a confession from a teenager suspected of shooting a Korean American dry cleaner in 1993. For hours, the kid swore he didn't do it. Then Boteler hooked him up to the machine.

"It said he flunked when he said he didn't do it," Hennessy recalls, "and this kid broke down and started crying. And he started confessing. And he goes over to Boteler and he starts hugging him and he says, 'You're like the dad I never had.' "

Lie detectors are so helpful that detectives who don't happen to have one handy will sometimes concoct a bogus one. One old trick is to use a Xerox machine that you've loaded with papers that say "Truth" and "Lie." Ask the suspect his name, hit the button and out comes a paper that says "Truth." Then ask if he fired the fatal shot, hit the button and out comes the one that says "Lie."

Obviously, this ploy works best with suspects not previously employed at Kinko's.

Fallin remembers convincing a suspect that a portable cop radio was a lie detector that lit up when it heard a falsehood. He had his partner hold the radio and asked questions designed to elicit truthful answers. No light flashed. Then Fallin got the suspect to lie and his partner pushed a button that made a red light pop on.

"You have to have somebody who's naive," Fallin says, laughing. "If the guy knows what a polygraph looks like, you're caught."

Bogus lie detectors aren't the only high-tech devices faked by clever detectives. "Some investigators are so creative," Leo

[Koala]

One more thing before I shut off my computer for the rest of the day. FYI UM did not contact me for any input on their show. If I have compromised anybody or anything unfairly I do apolgise but I figure enough is enough. Any one with any comments or questions- negative or positive are welcome. later

[ddelta]

After seeing this case on UM and other shows and investigating it online....I totally believe that Mary's husband did this to her and that the other Mary Morris was killed in a botched hit. I don't know what facts are true that UM aired about you (i.e. pictures being placed down, writing die on your calendar). I believe whoever he hired to kill her was not a very good hitman. First becuase he killed the wrong woman at first, but also becuase this Mary Morris right before she went missing that somoene was following her...usually victims of hitmen don't know this.

Probably someone her husband met out......

So sad for the other Mary Morris family.

I am a little confused though by your statements...did you take a polygraph or have you stated you won't take one? The cops might be pressuring you now to rule you out totally as a suspect and focus more on the husband.

[Koala]

I took a first set of polygraphs on my first questioning/interrogation. The first one I was told was inconclusive so they did 2 or 3 more. I signed and dated the polygraphs and then left the room. They were analyzed for about 20 minutes. Then the polygrapher had a private discussion with the detectives. Finally, a detective told me that the polygraphs indicate that I had shot Mary Morris and had conspired to kill her. I strongly denied it but they would not show me the actually graphing. They had already typed out my statement that included where I was when they asked. They said that they might want to do another polygraph in the future. They had asked me what medications I had been taking and I told them an antidepressant. Also a friend had given me some sleeping aids very recently - benzodiazepines that I told them about. I was not going to lie and I never have to the police. Benzodiazepines can blunt the autonomic responses on a polygraph and could theoretically make someone pass a polygraph even when being deceitful. This is why they would have wanted a repeat at a later date. I knew I was telling the truth so over the next days and weeks I learned off the internet all I could about polygraphs as I knew I was not lying so why should I fail? Turns out police are allowed to lie to you and do so. A few days later I submitted to the police for finger printing, pictures, and blood. I did not appreciate being paraded through the county lockup past all the prisoners to do all this. I do not think that they would do that with everybody. I can only conclude that they were trying to scare me. Maybe they thought I knew who did it and were trying to scare me into giving them up - not sure. By that time they had checked out and verified my alibi. The police never called me back but every time I called them they just pressed me to come in for another polygraph. They still refused to show me the first one. All they would have had to do was tell the truth about the benzos and I would have done it. I did not trust them and said I would do it via the FBI. This was agreed to. I made numerous tries via the FBI to get this done. They were very nice to me but never did it. Finally ten months later, after talking with Mary's sister I agreed to it. I thought they would be honest about it and I could head off to work again. Also give Mary's sister some closure. This time they did about 4 of them with a different kind of machine - The examiner kept asking me "is there anything you want to tell the police" At the end he said your pulse is a steady 84. I thought good they have decided to be honest. Then he said your polygrapgh indicates deception. I said let me see that but he wouldn't. When he left the room he took the polygraph results so I could not get to them. A short wait later I was informed that I had fallen down in the planning. No mention of me falling down in the shooting as by this time they had already long ago verified my alibi which would have made it near is I can tell, impossible to shoot her. In this second round of polygraphs I was asked "do you know for a fact who shot Mary Morris” They had not asked me 10 months earlier. The police have never accused me of leaving notes, turning pictures over etc. We did have a heated exchange at the police station when they again said I failed and made some other allegation that I did not appreciate. So I decided to leave. As I was leaving detective Wayne Kuhlman made a running charge at me. I did not respond but maybe he did that to see what I would do. I was not very happy with the whole ordeal. Another detective said to me "you're going to jail” I did not comment.

[Blackout]

ironically, I just watched this segment on the DVD about 15 minutes ago, and said to myself that husband looks like hes got something to hide

[themaninblack]

mike morris has to be guilty... the phone bill says it all

[Koala]

It does look that way. There are no calls visible after 9 PM on the bill. You would think one would try again, particularly after letting it ring for 4 minutes. Phone bills don't usually lie. Some people do.

[Koala]

I had earlier posted a $5000 reward for anyone who could give credible evidence for me banging on doors and yelling for Mary Mcginnis Morris at Union Carbide. Guess what? Nobody has come forward to collect. America's Most Wanted did a segment of the Mary Morris Murders on December 13th, 2003. The portrayal of me (the coworker suspect) was of some nut banging on doors and yelling. I assure you that this or anything unusual happened like this. I did talk to an AMW attorney. Months (?) later when I checked all mention of the segment or those profiled had been removed from the AMW website. The Mary Morris Murders vanished. I can not help but wonder if this was some kind of damage control. I am thinking of suing AMW and the source or sources as by doing so now at this late stage would not impact the case. What would you do?

[Jersey Girl 7]

why do they think it is you? are you her husband?