Article on the murders of Veronica Jefferson, Rachel Raver, and Warren Fulton - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Kane · 03-28-2005, 06:42 PM

http://washblade.com/2005/3-25/news/...ews/killer.cfm

I found a recent article on the 1988 murders of Veronica Jefferson, Rachel Raver, and Warren Fulton. It says that a criminal director or an Illinois justice school is studying the possibility that the cases might be connected to a bisexual patron of a gay nightclub in Washington, DC.

As you will recall, UM aired a segment on the 1988 murder of Veronica "Tina" Jefferson in November of 1989. Her case was brought up again in a 2001 episode about the December 1988 murders of Warren Fulton and Rachel Raver, because a DNA testing confirmed that the Jefferson's unknown killer also killed Fulton and Raver.

The new article (which briefly mentions UM) is lengthy, and no one has been arrested in connection with the murders, but it's worth reading.

U.M. Fanatic · 03-28-2005, 08:11 PM

Thanks for the heads up Kane.

Good article. I just wonder and hope this turns up new leads to this case.

When I first watched the episode that showed the link between all three cases, it was a jaw dropper!

How in the world the police couldnt see a similar pattern between these cases earlier is beyond me. Like was mentioned in the article, the red shoes and neatly folded clothes that were found by the victims should have been a dead giveaway.

Kane · 03-28-2005, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by U.M. Fanatic

How in the world the police couldnt see a similar pattern between these cases earlier is beyond me. Like was mentioned in the article, the red shoes and neatly folded clothes that were found by the victims should have been a dead giveaway.

Maybe they did consider the possibility that they were connnected, but didn't want to acknowledge it so soon, as it would likely have compromised the investigation. Typicially, certain info is withheld from the press, especially in the event that someone confessed to the crimes, and made some mention of the red shoes and folded clothes (or any info would be known only to the cops and the killer).

Just a thought.

nohwheregirl · 04-03-2005, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kane

Maybe they did consider the possibility that they were connnected, but didn't want to acknowledge it so soon, as it would likely have compromised the investigation.

Right. I've been watching a lot of coverage on the BTK investigation, and the police knew that there was a serial killer for years before they publically acknowledged it. It seems like a very delicate balance.

Very fascinating case, though. I'm betting we'll see it solved in the next few years.

Awsi Dooger · 04-04-2005, 06:25 PM

Incredible.

I can see how authorities didn't link them. Stuff like folded clothes is considered extremely secondary, in relation to type of victim and how the crime evolved, etc. Those cases are completely diverse in those regards.

Based on that picture from the link, Veronica Jefferson really was extremely attractive, just like the husband who reported the grocery store incident said.

Kane · 04-04-2005, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Awsi Dooger

Based on that picture from the link, Veronica Jefferson really was extremely attractive, just like the husband who reported the grocery store incident said.

I couldn't agree more. Veronica Jefferson really was attractive. It's just awful that she died way too soon. Had she lived, she would been 41 years old right now. She was only 24 when her life was taken.

Composite Sketch · 04-07-2005, 12:35 PM

I still get chills remembering the 1989 UM case, with Veronica's father (at least I think it was him) saying how her killer couldn't run forever and they were going to catch up to him, as the re-enactment showed her 'killer' running down a hill, gun in hand, in the moonlight. I was really sad when the case ended with the sketch and no update, especially since it was the last segment of that particular show.

They caught BTK after decades of hiding, and I do believe they'll catch this guy.

Kane · 04-07-2005, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Composite Sketch

I still get chills remembering the 1989 UM case, with Veronica's father (at least I think it was him) saying how her killer couldn't run forever and they were going to catch up to him, as the re-enactment showed her 'killer' running down a hill, gun in hand, in the moonlight..

Actually, her father wasn't in the 1989 segment. He was, however, in the 2001 segment. In fact, none of her family members were interviewed in the 1989 segment, which I thought was unusual.

It was actually a cop (in the 1989 segment) who expressed confidence in finding the killer. When the case was featured in November of 1989, it had been a year and a half since Veronica Jefferson was murdered. I recall the cop saying to the effect that just because a year has passed doesn't mean the killer has gotten away with the crime. He also pointed out he and his fellow detectives would not stop looking for the murderer.

As I recall in the '89 segment, one of the other detectives considered the theory that Veronica's killer may have been someone with whom she had a relationship, one that even those close to her were unaware of. And for this reason, his identity was never known. Although it's just a theory, it sounds plausible.

03-28-2005, 06:42 PM	#1
Kane Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 07, 2001 Location: MA, United States Posts: 3,367	Article on the murders of Veronica Jefferson, Rachel Raver, and Warren Fulton http://washblade.com/2005/3-25/news/...ews/killer.cfm I found a recent article on the 1988 murders of Veronica Jefferson, Rachel Raver, and Warren Fulton. It says that a criminal director or an Illinois justice school is studying the possibility that the cases might be connected to a bisexual patron of a gay nightclub in Washington, DC. As you will recall, UM aired a segment on the 1988 murder of Veronica "Tina" Jefferson in November of 1989. Her case was brought up again in a 2001 episode about the December 1988 murders of Warren Fulton and Rachel Raver, because a DNA testing confirmed that the Jefferson's unknown killer also killed Fulton and Raver. The new article (which briefly mentions UM) is lengthy, and no one has been arrested in connection with the murders, but it's worth reading.

04-04-2005, 06:25 PM	#5
Awsi Dooger Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 18, 2003 Location: Miami Posts: 1,537	Gad, I had no idea those cases were linked Incredible. I can see how authorities didn't link them. Stuff like folded clothes is considered extremely secondary, in relation to type of victim and how the crime evolved, etc. Those cases are completely diverse in those regards. Based on that picture from the link, Veronica Jefferson really was extremely attractive, just like the husband who reported the grocery store incident said.

03-28-2005, 08:11 PM	#2
U.M. Fanatic Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 15, 2005 Location: Lowell, NC Posts: 280	Thanks for the heads up Kane. Good article. I just wonder and hope this turns up new leads to this case. When I first watched the episode that showed the link between all three cases, it was a jaw dropper! How in the world the police couldnt see a similar pattern between these cases earlier is beyond me. Like was mentioned in the article, the red shoes and neatly folded clothes that were found by the victims should have been a dead giveaway.

04-07-2005, 12:35 PM	#7
Composite Sketch Staring at you Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 26, 2003 Location: British Columbia, Canada Posts: 304	I still get chills remembering the 1989 UM case, with Veronica's father (at least I think it was him) saying how her killer couldn't run forever and they were going to catch up to him, as the re-enactment showed her 'killer' running down a hill, gun in hand, in the moonlight. I was really sad when the case ended with the sketch and no update, especially since it was the last segment of that particular show. They caught BTK after decades of hiding, and I do believe they'll catch this guy.