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Janice Johnson · 03-17-2005, 11:48 PM

I hate howt he stations on my radio cut out rap parts on popular songs!

Three examples: Waterfalls. They cut out Lisa's rap in the song, and just play the music where she should be singing. No Scrubs: They cut out Lisa's rap, one of the best parts in the song, and just play the music where she should be singing..

Moulin Rouge: They cut out Lil Kim's rap, just playing the music where she should be singing. The bad thing about this, is in one part, Missy says "Lil Kim" If you hadn't listened to the whole unedited song, You'd be like, "What"? She didn't have anything to do with this song." You'd be confused. I hate these damn radio edits!

ABlairican Pie · 03-18-2005, 12:46 AM

I hate radio edits. Because you recall a song sounding a certain way, and when they take out guitar solos or some part that makes the song sound like a really cool song, you figure they're doing it for people with short attention spans. I hate it when they do it to songs like "Magic Carpet Ride" by Steppenwolf, "Sweet Emotion" by Aerosmith, "Long Distance Runaround" by Yes, "Won't Get Fooled Again" by the Who, and "Don't Fear the Reaper" by Blue Oyster Cult. What are they afraid of us hearing??

James · 03-18-2005, 02:34 AM

Most times the radio stations around here play "Miracles" by Jefferson Starship, they pare it down bigtime from the almost seven minutes worth of music from its 1975 release.

I can remember when one Cincinnati station played "The Loadout/Stay" by Jackson Browne (which I timed at 8:32), they always cut out the part between "Tonight the people were so (I can't remember the last word!)" and "But the band's on the bus", about two minutes worth.

Fortunately I have yet to hear an edited version of the 8:22 "American Pie" by Don McLean.

One thing I've noticed: Nationally syndicated rock and roll shows (among them "Rock and Roll's Greatest Hits" with Dick Bartley, as well as "The Seventies" with Steve Goddard) tend to edit songs more often than radio stations. On "The Seventies", the song "Band On The Run" by (Sir) Paul McCartney and Wings has had its middle verse removed!

ABlairican Pie · 03-18-2005, 09:32 AM

It really disgusts me when these stations try to make the 3 and a half minute mark by slicing up songs that were intended to be long. I miss the 70's, where you could play songs that lasted an entire album side (what? Vinyl records had SIDES??

), and stations were a lot more free-form. A lot of these "greatest hits of the 70's" stations don't even realize that.

Steve M. · 03-18-2005, 12:29 PM

When Billy Joel had his first hit with "Piano Man" in 1973, many stations deleted the verses about John the bartender wishing he could be a movie star and about Paul the novelist talking with Davy the sailor. Perhaps Joel had that in mind when he wrote in "The Entertainer" from 1974, "I am the entertainer / I've come to do my show / You've heard my latest record / It's been the radio / Oh, it took me years to write it / They were the best years of my life / It was a beautiful song / But it ran too long / If you're gonna have a hit / You gotta make it fit / So they cut it down to 3:05."

And yet Joel's songs kept getting edited for radio - "Just The Way You Are" lost a whole verse, and "My Life" lost several instrumental bars.

Steve M. · 03-18-2005, 12:36 PM

Then there's the edit of Crosby, Stills and Nash's "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes." That epic song runs over seven minutes, but CSN needed a hit to establish themselves, and Graham Nash's song "Marrakesh Express" hadn't quite done the trick. So Stephen Stills volunteered to pare down "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" - his own song - to about three minutes for a single release. Not a radio edit, but that's the version most radio stations played in 1969 anyway. I know the original seven-minute song was itself an edit of a piece of prose that took up an entire notebook, and I know Stills himself volunteered to do this edit in the interests of the group - greater love hath no musician, that he sacrifice his song on the altar of Top Forty success - but I still can't hear the three-minute "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" to this day. It makes me ill!

MissZero · 03-18-2005, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Janice Johnson

I hate howt he stations on my radio cut out rap parts on popular songs!

Three examples: Waterfalls. They cut out Lisa's rap in the song, and just play the music where she should be singing. No Scrubs: They cut out Lisa's rap, one of the best parts in the song, and just play the music where she should be singing..

Moulin Rouge: They cut out Lil Kim's rap, just playing the music where she should be singing. The bad thing about this, is in one part, Missy says "Lil Kim" If you hadn't listened to the whole unedited song, You'd be like, "What"? She didn't have anything to do with this song." You'd be confused. I hate these damn radio edits!

OMG Janice, I also hate when they cut Left eye's raps out of songs they're the best part...especially in Waterfalls, that rap has a lot of meaning to it.

musicradio77 · 03-18-2005, 09:36 PM

I'm sick and tired of these radio edits. The song "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" by Diana Ross was a radio edit. There are some radio edits used in the following songs:

1. "Love to Love You Baby" - Donna Summer (most of it was cut out. The song was originally a 16-minute version)
2. "Hard to Say I'm Sorry" - Chicago (The ending was edited out due to "Get Away", a rockish kinda song.)
3. "Susan" - The Buckinghams (a weird sound close to the ending was edited out)
4. "Rapper's Delight" - Sugarhill Gang (the part in the middle of the song was cut out because it was a 15-minute version)
5. "Keep on Truckin'" - Eddie Kendricks (a single version features a gong in the middle, the LP version doesn't.)

James · 03-19-2005, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by musicradio77

I'm sick and tired of these radio edits. The song "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" by Diana Ross was a radio edit.

Which reminds me, about 20 years ago I heard a version of this song with the lyrics "I may not be able to express" (with the Ohhhh, oh, oh chorus) starting the second verse, but nowadays they just skip over this to "No wind, no rain, or winter's cold". The original version I timed at 6:01, but the edited version I timed at 3:23.

Steve M. · 03-20-2005, 03:04 PM

There's an edit of the Eagles's 1975 hit "Lyin' Eyes" which skips the second verse and pares down the third, omitting the plot twist of the tale and taking out the whole point of the song!

Dr. Jazz · 03-20-2005, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve M.

There's an edit of the Eagles's 1975 hit "Lyin' Eyes" which skips the second verse and pares down the third, omitting the plot twist of the tale and taking out the whole point of the song!

OT: I saw the Eagles in concert last week & right before they did "Lyin' Eyes", Glenn Frey dedicated the song to his mother. I thought that was kind of bizarre.

MissZero · 03-20-2005, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Jazz

OT: I saw the Eagles in concert last week & right before they did "Lyin' Eyes", Glenn Frey dedicated the song to his mother. I thought that was kind of bizarre.

what day? my parents went last week too

Dr. Jazz · 03-20-2005, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MissZero

what day? my parents went last week too

It was last Sunday night. I'm in WV. They mentioned that they were heading to PA for 2 concerts (Reading & Wilkes-Barre I think).

Hollow · 03-20-2005, 06:03 PM

Steve M. · 03-22-2005, 12:48 PM

Any radio program director that approves the airing of the radio edit of the Who's "Won't Get Fooled Again" should be flogged!

03-17-2005, 11:48 PM	#1
Janice Johnson Commercial Lover Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: May 30, 2003 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 4,740	Radio Edits I hate howt he stations on my radio cut out rap parts on popular songs! Three examples: Waterfalls. They cut out Lisa's rap in the song, and just play the music where she should be singing. No Scrubs: They cut out Lisa's rap, one of the best parts in the song, and just play the music where she should be singing.. Moulin Rouge: They cut out Lil Kim's rap, just playing the music where she should be singing. The bad thing about this, is in one part, Missy says "Lil Kim" If you hadn't listened to the whole unedited song, You'd be like, "What"? She didn't have anything to do with this song." You'd be confused. I hate these damn radio edits!

03-18-2005, 12:46 AM	#2
ABlairican Pie Member Forum Superstar Join Date: Dec 12, 2001 Location: Living where cats reign more Supreme than a pizza. Posts: 31,619	I hate radio edits. Because you recall a song sounding a certain way, and when they take out guitar solos or some part that makes the song sound like a really cool song, you figure they're doing it for people with short attention spans. I hate it when they do it to songs like "Magic Carpet Ride" by Steppenwolf, "Sweet Emotion" by Aerosmith, "Long Distance Runaround" by Yes, "Won't Get Fooled Again" by the Who, and "Don't Fear the Reaper" by Blue Oyster Cult. What are they afraid of us hearing??
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03-18-2005, 12:29 PM	#5
Steve M. Back on the road to reality Forum Superstar Join Date: Nov 07, 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 33,307	When Billy Joel had his first hit with "Piano Man" in 1973, many stations deleted the verses about John the bartender wishing he could be a movie star and about Paul the novelist talking with Davy the sailor. Perhaps Joel had that in mind when he wrote in "The Entertainer" from 1974, "I am the entertainer / I've come to do my show / You've heard my latest record / It's been the radio / Oh, it took me years to write it / They were the best years of my life / It was a beautiful song / But it ran too long / If you're gonna have a hit / You gotta make it fit / So they cut it down to 3:05." And yet Joel's songs kept getting edited for radio - "Just The Way You Are" lost a whole verse, and "My Life" lost several instrumental bars.
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03-18-2005, 09:36 PM	#8
musicradio77 Disney Expert Forum Veteran Join Date: Jul 14, 2003 Location: Brooklyn, NY USA Posts: 6,475	I'm sick and tired of these radio edits. The song "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" by Diana Ross was a radio edit. There are some radio edits used in the following songs: 1. "Love to Love You Baby" - Donna Summer (most of it was cut out. The song was originally a 16-minute version) 2. "Hard to Say I'm Sorry" - Chicago (The ending was edited out due to "Get Away", a rockish kinda song.) 3. "Susan" - The Buckinghams (a weird sound close to the ending was edited out) 4. "Rapper's Delight" - Sugarhill Gang (the part in the middle of the song was cut out because it was a 15-minute version) 5. "Keep on Truckin'" - Eddie Kendricks (a single version features a gong in the middle, the LP version doesn't.)
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03-18-2005, 02:34 AM	#3
James Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jan 07, 2001 Location: Dayton, Ohio, USA Posts: 6,370	Most times the radio stations around here play "Miracles" by Jefferson Starship, they pare it down bigtime from the almost seven minutes worth of music from its 1975 release. I can remember when one Cincinnati station played "The Loadout/Stay" by Jackson Browne (which I timed at 8:32), they always cut out the part between "Tonight the people were so (I can't remember the last word!)" and "But the band's on the bus", about two minutes worth. Fortunately I have yet to hear an edited version of the 8:22 "American Pie" by Don McLean. One thing I've noticed: Nationally syndicated rock and roll shows (among them "Rock and Roll's Greatest Hits" with Dick Bartley, as well as "The Seventies" with Steve Goddard) tend to edit songs more often than radio stations. On "The Seventies", the song "Band On The Run" by (Sir) Paul McCartney and Wings has had its middle verse removed!

03-18-2005, 09:32 AM	#4
ABlairican Pie Member Forum Superstar Join Date: Dec 12, 2001 Location: Living where cats reign more Supreme than a pizza. Posts: 31,619	It really disgusts me when these stations try to make the 3 and a half minute mark by slicing up songs that were intended to be long. I miss the 70's, where you could play songs that lasted an entire album side (what? Vinyl records had SIDES?? ), and stations were a lot more free-form. A lot of these "greatest hits of the 70's" stations don't even realize that.

03-18-2005, 12:36 PM	#6
Steve M. Back on the road to reality Forum Superstar Join Date: Nov 07, 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 33,307	Then there's the edit of Crosby, Stills and Nash's "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes." That epic song runs over seven minutes, but CSN needed a hit to establish themselves, and Graham Nash's song "Marrakesh Express" hadn't quite done the trick. So Stephen Stills volunteered to pare down "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" - his own song - to about three minutes for a single release. Not a radio edit, but that's the version most radio stations played in 1969 anyway. I know the original seven-minute song was itself an edit of a piece of prose that took up an entire notebook, and I know Stills himself volunteered to do this edit in the interests of the group - greater love hath no musician, that he sacrifice his song on the altar of Top Forty success - but I still can't hear the three-minute "Suite: Judy Blue Eyes" to this day. It makes me ill!

03-20-2005, 03:04 PM	#10
Steve M. Back on the road to reality Forum Superstar Join Date: Nov 07, 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 33,307	There's an edit of the Eagles's 1975 hit "Lyin' Eyes" which skips the second verse and pares down the third, omitting the plot twist of the tale and taking out the whole point of the song!

03-20-2005, 06:03 PM	#14
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03-22-2005, 12:48 PM	#15
Steve M. Back on the road to reality Forum Superstar Join Date: Nov 07, 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 33,307	Any radio program director that approves the airing of the radio edit of the Who's "Won't Get Fooled Again" should be flogged!