Didn't the first Vivian have more of an attitude? - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

GARFIELDKOOL · 03-06-2005, 12:38 AM

She was loose and more down to earth than the second one. It seemed like she got into Will more and had more of a personality.

danithang · 03-15-2005, 07:42 PM

Yeah she did, that's why the second Aunt Viv just didn't work.

felicitylen · 03-16-2005, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by danithang

Yeah she did, that's why the second Aunt Viv just didn't work.

I agree!

DuhDuh539 · 03-22-2005, 11:14 PM

yes that was exactly what i was thinking...

Corizzle · 03-24-2005, 04:37 PM

Personally though I liked the 2nd Vivian better then the first, both were good but there was something about the 2nd one that I think made her fit in better.

Tundra Wolf · 03-25-2005, 10:08 AM

The first one was better

PrettyinPink55 · 03-25-2005, 10:25 AM

The First Vivian was the best. The second one didn't quite fit.

Southern Hellraiser · 04-09-2005, 09:35 PM

Vivian 2 was WAYYY better to me.

GCW · 04-25-2005, 04:31 PM

I agree the first Vivian had somewhat of a different personality but I liked the second Vivian also. Normally I don't like character replacements but having the second Vivian did not ruin the show in my opinion.

moeee · 05-22-2005, 02:33 AM

The second vivian brought nothing to the show in my opinon.

(sit)comedy · 02-19-2022, 10:45 AM

the original aunt viv put her foot down when she needed to. however, there were still times when i felt uncle phil tried to dominate her, and she just went along with it.

EccentricGenius · 03-27-2022, 04:48 PM

Absolutely, without a doubt! Janet Hubert's unforgettable performance as "Vivian #1" during "Fresh Prince's" first three seasons was no-nonsense but still both sensible and sympathetic...she wasn't afraid to put Will in his place or give him a taste of his own medicine whenever Will got out of line (which was often).

After Daphne Maxwell Reid replaced the departing Hubert--due to both her real-life pregnancy as well as a behind-the-scenes feud with Will Smith--early in the fourth season, Vivian became more of a typical housewife and her career as a college professor was seldom mentioned (presumably because of the birth of Philip and Vivian's fourth child, and Will's cousin, Nicky)...in layman's terms, Daphne's performance as "Vivian #2" was like ice cream on a hot, summer day: soft. I'm not berating or belittling Daphne (I'm sure she's both a marvelous actress and a wonderful human being), but even when I watched "Fresh Prince" as a teenager, I kept hoping and praying that she would lose her temper and really give Will a piece of her mind, but alas, that never happened.

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RetroGuy2000 · 03-27-2022, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by EccentricGenius

Absolutely, without a doubt! Janet Hubert's unforgettable performance as "Vivian #1" during "Fresh Prince's" first three seasons was no-nonsense but still both sensible and sympathetic...she wasn't afraid to put Will in his place or give him a taste of his own medicine whenever Will got out of line (which was often).

After Daphne Maxwell Reid replaced the departing Hubert--due to both her real-life pregnancy as well as a behind-the-scenes feud with Will Smith--early in the fourth season, Vivian became more of a typical housewife and her career as a college professor was seldom mentioned (presumably because of the birth of Philip and Vivian's fourth child, and Will's cousin, Nicky)...in layman's terms, Daphne's performance as "Vivian #2" was like ice cream on a hot, summer day: soft. I'm not berating or belittling Daphne (I'm sure she's both a marvelous actress and a wonderful human being), but even when I watched "Fresh Prince" as a teenager, I kept hoping and praying that she would lose her temper and really give Will a piece of her mind, but alas, that never happened.

I think that's well stated: the original Aunt Viv had spice to her character: she wasn't afraid to tell Will he was wrong about something. Second Viv was very mild in comparison. It had nothing to do with Daphne Maxwell Reid, but with the writing.

Virtual · 03-27-2022, 07:49 PM

I definitely liked Janet Hubert's portrayal of Vivian better. Her character gave off the impression of an accomplished person that didn't take crap off people. I can't say that about Daphne Reid's portrayal of Vivian.

(sit)comedy · 05-23-2022, 02:52 PM

the original aunt viv had some funny one liners in the ‘lucky charm’ episode from season one. it was about the superstitious client of uncle phil’s law firm. she didn’t hide her feelings at all lol

03-24-2005, 04:37 PM	#5
Corizzle Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 16, 2004 Location: Napanee, Ont Posts: 98	Personally though I liked the 2nd Vivian better then the first, both were good but there was something about the 2nd one that I think made her fit in better.
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03-25-2005, 10:25 AM	#7
PrettyinPink55 Member Forum Celebrity Join Date: Feb 11, 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 24,601	The First Vivian was the best. The second one didn't quite fit.
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04-09-2005, 09:35 PM	#8
Southern Hellraiser Member Forum Star Join Date: Feb 08, 2005 Location: Mississippi Posts: 19,960	Vivian 2 was WAYYY better to me.
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03-06-2005, 12:38 AM	#1
GARFIELDKOOL Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 02, 2004 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 7,204	Didn't the first Vivian have more of an attitude? She was loose and more down to earth than the second one. It seemed like she got into Will more and had more of a personality.

03-15-2005, 07:42 PM	#2
danithang Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 15, 2001 Location: Newport News, Va Posts: 293	Yeah she did, that's why the second Aunt Viv just didn't work.

03-22-2005, 11:14 PM	#4
DuhDuh539 IT IS OH SO QUIET... Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 17, 2004 Posts: 276	yes that was exactly what i was thinking...

03-25-2005, 10:08 AM	#6
Tundra Wolf Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jun 10, 2004 Location: New York Posts: 730	The first one was better

04-25-2005, 04:31 PM	#9
GCW Member Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 14, 2004 Posts: 708	I agree the first Vivian had somewhat of a different personality but I liked the second Vivian also. Normally I don't like character replacements but having the second Vivian did not ruin the show in my opinion.

05-22-2005, 02:33 AM	#10
moeee Peanut Butter Ice Cream Pie Forum Legend Join Date: Jul 31, 2003 Posts: 40,094	The second vivian brought nothing to the show in my opinon.

02-19-2022, 10:45 AM	#11
(sit)comedy series 1 Occasional Poster Join Date: Jan 09, 2022 Posts: 85	the original aunt viv put her foot down when she needed to. however, there were still times when i felt uncle phil tried to dominate her, and she just went along with it.

03-27-2022, 04:48 PM	#12
EccentricGenius Member Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 30, 2015 Posts: 767	Absolutely, without a doubt! Janet Hubert's unforgettable performance as "Vivian #1" during "Fresh Prince's" first three seasons was no-nonsense but still both sensible and sympathetic...she wasn't afraid to put Will in his place or give him a taste of his own medicine whenever Will got out of line (which was often). After Daphne Maxwell Reid replaced the departing Hubert--due to both her real-life pregnancy as well as a behind-the-scenes feud with Will Smith--early in the fourth season, Vivian became more of a typical housewife and her career as a college professor was seldom mentioned (presumably because of the birth of Philip and Vivian's fourth child, and Will's cousin, Nicky)...in layman's terms, Daphne's performance as "Vivian #2" was like ice cream on a hot, summer day: soft. I'm not berating or belittling Daphne (I'm sure she's both a marvelous actress and a wonderful human being), but even when I watched "Fresh Prince" as a teenager, I kept hoping and praying that she would lose her temper and really give Will a piece of her mind, but alas, that never happened. Enjoy your evening, as well as your weekend!

03-27-2022, 07:49 PM	#14
Virtual Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 15, 2022 Location: US Posts: 118	I definitely liked Janet Hubert's portrayal of Vivian better. Her character gave off the impression of an accomplished person that didn't take crap off people. I can't say that about Daphne Reid's portrayal of Vivian.

05-23-2022, 02:52 PM	#15
(sit)comedy series 1 Occasional Poster Join Date: Jan 09, 2022 Posts: 85	the original aunt viv had some funny one liners in the ‘lucky charm’ episode from season one. it was about the superstitious client of uncle phil’s law firm. she didn’t hide her feelings at all lol