It's official (hate to say), but "Frasier" isn't funny anymore - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Mcfly · 11-28-2001, 01:38 PM

Anyone else with me on this? They really struggled thru the last couple years (with stuff like naming a toupee'd character "Mr. Rugly") but this season is just empty. The biting wit is totally gone, and last night I swear I didn't laugh once. And the fact that they've been signed thru 2003 is scary with the way the writing has fallen off.

Agree/disagree?

moofomoo · 11-28-2001, 10:53 PM

Disagree.

I personally like Frasier more and more. True I might not laugh at everything that's said, but I can't help but watch when they've actually kept it interesting with Niles and Daphne...and Martin, and occasionally showing more of Roz's life. And when Frasier screws up, I find it hilarious! (I never really liked him all that much anyway.)

HOORAY for it being at LEAST til 2003.

**Gracie**

"I don't care if I stand alone, at least I stand somewhere!"

cablejockey · 01-02-2002, 02:52 PM

I miss Bebe, the agent from hell. She hasn't been on the show lately.

SitcomChick · 01-02-2002, 04:30 PM

I've been reading the scripts (well, transcripts, actually) for season nine of Fraiser, which has yet to be aired in England, and I disagree. I think Frasier is one of the best, if not the best, sitcom on tv these days. The only thing I don't like too much is the fact that Niles and Daphne are a couple - some of the programmes best moments are when Niles is trying to impress Daphne but ususally just makes a fool out of himself. Now they are together it just seems a bit...dull? But that is my one and only complaint. Everything else is perfect and I hope the show goes on for a while longer.

TJL · 01-02-2002, 10:35 PM

I think Frasier has gotten a little better this season. It is still the best written sitcom on TV, and has one of the tightest casts ever to appear on screen.
My biggest complaint these past few years is the constant repetition of the storylines. I'm getting a little tired of seeing Frasier drive away his "guest celebrity girlfriend of the week" through some rediculous chain of events.
Still the story arc with Frasier going through his "midlife crisis" by seeing a therapist was very funny and touching. It is refreshing to see a sitcom character actually try to learn from his mistakes. I think the best thing the show can do is to actually bring in another character. How about finally giving Frasier a long term girlfriend?
Still, the show has been around for a long time I do hope they decide to pack it in after 2003. All good things must come to an end, you know...

SitcomChick · 01-03-2002, 08:03 AM

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Originally posted by TJL
How about finally giving Frasier a long term girlfriend?

That would be great. It's probably about time Frasier actually settled down with someone. Just as long as they DO NOT pair him up with Roz, though. That would be awful and would really ruin the show, I think.

Central Perk · 01-10-2002, 05:23 PM

Well its been 9 years and once the show is over they should just pair him back up with Lilith. They were a great couple, and they wouldn't have to worry about writting scripts after the show was done.

TJL · 01-10-2002, 06:14 PM

You know, that probably wouldn't be a bad idea. I always love it when they bring Lilith back. The relationship between Frasier and Lilith has matured to the point where they have even become friendly with one another, and I think that has a lot to do with the great chemistry between Kelsey Grammer and Bebe Neuwirth. Plus, she's been on so many times they might as well make her a regular.

Central Perk · 01-11-2002, 04:44 PM

I'm glad you agree. Thanks for responding!

dugferd · 01-11-2002, 10:25 PM

Pairing Frasier with Lilith would hurt the show's integrity.

I love Bebe Neuwirth, the character of Lilith, the episodes of Fraser she's in and the chemistry with Grammer/Frasier, but it would go against everything in those characters' profiles.

How often is she referred to as Frasier's ex-wife/nemesis like Marist was to Niles. Won't and wouldn't and shouldn't happen.

Lilith wouldn't leave her career/reputation etc., that she's built where she is.

Central Perk · 01-11-2002, 10:40 PM

True, but if they were to get back together they could host the radio show together. I think that might work? would it work?

dugferd · 01-11-2002, 11:36 PM

LILITH??? Host a psychiatry radio call-in show????
What she would do to anyone who suggests that I can't even imagine.

She belittles Frasier for doing so, remember?

Central Perk · 01-12-2002, 12:09 AM

Sorry I haven't seen many episodes. How bout because she wrote a book and The Radio Station wants to put her on the show to promote it

dugferd · 01-12-2002, 01:04 AM

Maybe for another guest appearance (which I'd be all for), but as a way to have her on the show regularly probably not.

How about this, though: Now that Daphne has moved in with Niles, there is a free room in the condo. Someone in another thread had mentioned having their son Frederick come live with Frasier. Maybe that could put those characters on more often?

Central Perk · 01-12-2002, 09:51 AM

I guess so....

11-28-2001, 01:38 PM	#1
Mcfly Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 06, 2001 Location: ca Posts: 374	It's official (hate to say), but "Frasier" isn't funny anymore Anyone else with me on this? They really struggled thru the last couple years (with stuff like naming a toupee'd character "Mr. Rugly") but this season is just empty. The biting wit is totally gone, and last night I swear I didn't laugh once. And the fact that they've been signed thru 2003 is scary with the way the writing has fallen off. Agree/disagree?

01-02-2002, 04:30 PM	#4
SitcomChick Senior Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 02, 2002 Location: England Posts: 105	Re: It's official (hate to say) but "Frasier" isn't funny anymore I've been reading the scripts (well, transcripts, actually) for season nine of Fraiser, which has yet to be aired in England, and I disagree. I think Frasier is one of the best, if not the best, sitcom on tv these days. The only thing I don't like too much is the fact that Niles and Daphne are a couple - some of the programmes best moments are when Niles is trying to impress Daphne but ususally just makes a fool out of himself. Now they are together it just seems a bit...dull? But that is my one and only complaint. Everything else is perfect and I hope the show goes on for a while longer.

01-10-2002, 05:23 PM	#7
Central Perk ~~~~~ Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 10, 2002 Posts: 4,553	Frasier and a girlfriend.. Well its been 9 years and once the show is over they should just pair him back up with Lilith. They were a great couple, and they wouldn't have to worry about writting scripts after the show was done.

01-11-2002, 10:25 PM	#10
dugferd Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 20, 2001 Location: Richmond VA USA Posts: 112	Pairing Frasier with Lilith would hurt the show's integrity. I love Bebe Neuwirth, the character of Lilith, the episodes of Fraser she's in and the chemistry with Grammer/Frasier, but it would go against everything in those characters' profiles. How often is she referred to as Frasier's ex-wife/nemesis like Marist was to Niles. Won't and wouldn't and shouldn't happen. Lilith wouldn't leave her career/reputation etc., that she's built where she is.
	__________________ Leela: "You can't just sit here in the dark listening to classical music." Fry: "I could if you hadn't turned on the lights and shut off the stereo."

11-28-2001, 10:53 PM	#2
moofomoo #1 Hans Conried fan Forum Regular Join Date: Aug 29, 2001 Location: land of Liberty and Justice for ALL...you got a problem with that? Posts: 770	Disagree. I personally like Frasier more and more. True I might not laugh at everything that's said, but I can't help but watch when they've actually kept it interesting with Niles and Daphne...and Martin, and occasionally showing more of Roz's life. And when Frasier screws up, I find it hilarious! (I never really liked him all that much anyway.) HOORAY for it being at LEAST til 2003. Gracie "I don't care if I stand alone, at least I stand somewhere!"

01-02-2002, 02:52 PM	#3
cablejockey Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 29, 2001 Location: ontario canada Posts: 478	I miss Bebe, the agent from hell. She hasn't been on the show lately.

01-02-2002, 10:35 PM	#5
TJL Suburbanite Extrordinaire Forum Star Join Date: Dec 29, 2001 Location: New Jersey - the cradle of civilization Posts: 16,591	I think Frasier has gotten a little better this season. It is still the best written sitcom on TV, and has one of the tightest casts ever to appear on screen. My biggest complaint these past few years is the constant repetition of the storylines. I'm getting a little tired of seeing Frasier drive away his "guest celebrity girlfriend of the week" through some rediculous chain of events. Still the story arc with Frasier going through his "midlife crisis" by seeing a therapist was very funny and touching. It is refreshing to see a sitcom character actually try to learn from his mistakes. I think the best thing the show can do is to actually bring in another character. How about finally giving Frasier a long term girlfriend? Still, the show has been around for a long time I do hope they decide to pack it in after 2003. All good things must come to an end, you know...

01-10-2002, 06:14 PM	#8
TJL Suburbanite Extrordinaire Forum Star Join Date: Dec 29, 2001 Location: New Jersey - the cradle of civilization Posts: 16,591	You know, that probably wouldn't be a bad idea. I always love it when they bring Lilith back. The relationship between Frasier and Lilith has matured to the point where they have even become friendly with one another, and I think that has a lot to do with the great chemistry between Kelsey Grammer and Bebe Neuwirth. Plus, she's been on so many times they might as well make her a regular.

01-11-2002, 04:44 PM	#9
Central Perk ~~~~~ Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 10, 2002 Posts: 4,553	I'm glad you agree. Thanks for responding!

01-11-2002, 10:40 PM	#11
Central Perk ~~~~~ Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 10, 2002 Posts: 4,553	True, but if they were to get back together they could host the radio show together. I think that might work? would it work?

01-11-2002, 11:36 PM	#12
dugferd Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 20, 2001 Location: Richmond VA USA Posts: 112	LILITH??? Host a psychiatry radio call-in show???? What she would do to anyone who suggests that I can't even imagine. She belittles Frasier for doing so, remember?

01-12-2002, 12:09 AM	#13
Central Perk ~~~~~ Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 10, 2002 Posts: 4,553	Sorry I haven't seen many episodes. How bout because she wrote a book and The Radio Station wants to put her on the show to promote it

01-12-2002, 01:04 AM	#14
dugferd Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 20, 2001 Location: Richmond VA USA Posts: 112	Maybe for another guest appearance (which I'd be all for), but as a way to have her on the show regularly probably not. How about this, though: Now that Daphne has moved in with Niles, there is a free room in the condo. Someone in another thread had mentioned having their son Frederick come live with Frasier. Maybe that could put those characters on more often?

01-12-2002, 09:51 AM	#15
Central Perk ~~~~~ Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 10, 2002 Posts: 4,553	I guess so....

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