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LuV2DreeM · 01-30-2005, 07:57 PM

I remember last year when we all feared cancellation, what with NBC cutting back on episodes and hardly any episodes airing from late Nov. thru Jan.

And then.........out of the blue, comes Jeff Zucker in late Jan. 2004 saying "we are renewing AD........I personally like the show".

That's all it took!
The ratings drop didn't matter, NBC cutting back the episodes didn't matter...........Mr. Zucker bypassed all that and renewed us.

But now we face the same, if not a worse, dilemma. The 18-49 age group has lost 50%............from 8% of tv's in use to 4% of tv's last week. THAT is a very HUGE drop.
It seems like the only way we stay on air is another "personal" preference from Mr. Zucker. So far.......we haven't heard it.
But NBC is about to fall to fourth place behind FOX and I don't know if Mr. Zucker has the pull to pull a personal preference. Business is business.

So I have my dvd's of past seasons. I can watch those any time I want.
It was a nice run.......probably a year longer than it should have gone......thanks to Mr. Zucker.

Peace.

LuV2DreeM · 01-30-2005, 08:10 PM

I just checked my yahoo tv listings for next Sunday and saw "Law and Order" on at 8, 9 and 10 o'clock. 3 hours of Law and Order are more preferred than 2 hours of it and us?

Why aren't we on at 8 as usual?

Extreme Makeover is still on.......so is Cold Case and Desperate Housewives.

So the "story" that we are being pulled for Feb. sweeps or because there are specials and Grammy's and the Super Bowl........ I just don't buy.

Why aren't the other shows being "pulled" for the same reason?

Like I said earlier............."farewell".

Peace.

Storywriter · 01-31-2005, 01:14 AM

Ad returns in March so stop being so negative and Yes all those shows are still around next week but their reruns I think .All you're doing is putting me down and I'm kinda tired of you putting me down I don't need to be put down at all you're kinda made this site unfun for me to post at with your negativity..

I have been holding back for quite sometime to tell you this but I'm not anymore..

The actors and actresses do need a break so they don't get burned out by working on making Ad enjoyable for you and the rest of its fanbase ..Mel

LuV2DreeM · 01-31-2005, 05:28 PM

It is not good news:
I will let "tvobscurities" analyze it for us, he/she seems to have a better understanding of ratings than anyone (including me) on this board.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Here is the early report from tv.zap2it.com:
At 8 p.m. CBS got a 10.6/16 from "Cold Case," though ABC picked up some ground with the 9.2/14 for "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition." FOX grabbed third with "The Simpsons" (5.7/9) and "Arrested Development" (4.1/6), edging NBC's "American Dreams." The WB got a 2.3/3 from "Charmed."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I can only guess we came somewhere in between 3 million and 6 million viewers (possibly our LOWEST for the year).......I don't even WANT to try to guess the 18-49 group. I will let "tvobscurities" fill us in on that one.

As I said in the first post here......"farewell American Dreams"

Anyone expressing anger toward me or any other fan should redirect their anger towards the 7 million or more, over 50% viewership, who have STOPPPED supporting us by not watching the show. But not really at them, per se, but at the FACT that they decided to leave.......leaving our ratings drastically low.

Peace.

rusyd · 01-31-2005, 09:55 PM

I agree w Storywriter. Could you please chill out about AD being dropped? If it does it does, but don't rush it. Let us enjoy the show w out the negative feedback every week. Thank You.

vashti1999 · 01-31-2005, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by LuV2DreeM

As I said in the first post here......"farewell American Dreams"

Anyone expressing anger toward me or any other fan should redirect their anger towards the 7 million or more, over 50% viewership, who have STOPPPED supporting us by not watching the show. But not really at them, per se, but at the FACT that they decided to leave.......leaving our ratings drastically low.

Peace.

I agree. There's no denying that there should be a concern if the ratings aren't there anymore. It's not like if we don't talk about it, everything is okay. Some people act like they'll commit suicide when the show finally goes off the air. Shows get cancelled, it happens. If you enjoy the show, just continue to get the enjoyment you've gotten out of watching it. When you click on a thread with the subject title "Farewell American Dreams" you should already guess that it won't be something positive. Anyone who's upset by these posts, why do you keep reading them?

tvfan0101 · 01-31-2005, 10:27 PM

LuV2DreeM is simple being realistic. The series is in danger of being cancelled, and perhaps without a conclusion. We really do not know. The fact that NBC will not even give an episode count for this season is disturbing. On the other hand, episodes earlier this season were up from last season, if I recall correctly, the series is currently in the upper 50s for the season (out of, what, 120+ shows) and everyone knows NBC is having a lackluster season overall.

We can and should enjoy the episodes we are given for the rest of this season. To ignore the fact that the show may not come back next season, however, is seeing things through rose-colored glasses. We all love the show, we all watch the show, we all want to keep loving and watching the show. Sadly, we may not get the chance.

I can understand not wanting to think about the show being cancelled, but LuV2DreeM has every right to worry about it. I worry about it. I know other people who worry about it. Just do not read this topic or others like it if you do not want to worry, as vashti1999 suggested.

LuV2DreeM · 02-01-2005, 12:31 AM

Thanks "tvobscurities"........I do feel kind of picked on. And for what? CARING.
But to be realistic.......these are talented actors/actresses.......so we will see them on other shows/movies if it does get cancelled.

But being the soft-hearted woman I am.....I kind of get sad thinking of the inevitable. A lot of shows don't even get more than one season. We are now completing our third. So I guess I can feel good about that.

Peace.

LuV2DreeM · 02-01-2005, 09:30 AM

Did anyone get the final numbers for our last show yet?

Peace.

rusyd · 02-01-2005, 08:34 PM

I didn't mean to offend or hurt you Luv2Dreem,and I realize and care that the show may be canclled. It is my favoriote show and I have been watching it since the begining. I just don't like to hear and see statistics on the show everyweek. I do have the right,though to read and post on any thread on this site. Even if I don't agree w the thread starter. Thank you.

LuV2DreeM · 02-01-2005, 10:05 PM

So I'm sitting there trying to feel "good" about what has transpired in the last few weeks.

And then it came to me:

I'm NOT really feeling bad for the actors/actresses......they are a talented bunch and will undoubtedly get other parts if the show gets cancelled.....eventually. But in the meantime they each make 100,000's of dollars and won't be without food/shelter anytime soon.

So it must be ME that I'm feeling sorry for........it's my greed to have this show on tv that is the problem. Wanting something for ME.......WOW!

I don't like greed. Not in others......not in myself.

So there you go. If the show stays on.....I'm okay with it.....(more than okay, I must say)

If it goes off............I'm okay with that too.

Finally, some peace of mind.

Peace.

rusyd · 02-01-2005, 10:09 PM

Don't worry alot of us will feel bad if and when it is cancelled. We can send postcards and reply to sites promoting the show, and just keep watching and enjoying the show while it is on.

LuV2DreeM · 02-02-2005, 11:03 PM

Thanks for your nice words. I don't feel that you necessarily attacked me. I don't think any of us wants the show to be cancelled.

Peace.

rusyd · 02-03-2005, 02:59 PM

I'm glad we've cleared that up. I definitley don't want the show cancelled. It is really the only show I make sure to watch ever week. I hope we can continue to talk about the show on this site for a long time to come, but if we can't there is not much I can do.

LuV2DreeM · 02-03-2005, 06:00 PM

That's why I bought the dvd's. I still watch AD.......every day!
So I think everyone should put their money where their mouth is and buy the dvd's. I don't know if that will help keep it on the air.........but it won't hurt.

That way you still get to see it...........and you are ABSOLUTELY immune from the effects of RATINGS.

I love it.

Peace.

01-30-2005, 07:57 PM	#1
LuV2DreeM Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 20, 2004 Posts: 200	Farewell American Dreams I remember last year when we all feared cancellation, what with NBC cutting back on episodes and hardly any episodes airing from late Nov. thru Jan. And then.........out of the blue, comes Jeff Zucker in late Jan. 2004 saying "we are renewing AD........I personally like the show". That's all it took! The ratings drop didn't matter, NBC cutting back the episodes didn't matter...........Mr. Zucker bypassed all that and renewed us. But now we face the same, if not a worse, dilemma. The 18-49 age group has lost 50%............from 8% of tv's in use to 4% of tv's last week. THAT is a very HUGE drop. It seems like the only way we stay on air is another "personal" preference from Mr. Zucker. So far.......we haven't heard it. But NBC is about to fall to fourth place behind FOX and I don't know if Mr. Zucker has the pull to pull a personal preference. Business is business. So I have my dvd's of past seasons. I can watch those any time I want. It was a nice run.......probably a year longer than it should have gone......thanks to Mr. Zucker. Peace.
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01-31-2005, 01:14 AM	#3
Storywriter Tcha! You Know What. Senior Member Join Date: Jan 29, 2004 Location: not given Posts: 1,209	Ad returns in March so stop being so negative and Yes all those shows are still around next week but their reruns I think .All you're doing is putting me down and I'm kinda tired of you putting me down I don't need to be put down at all you're kinda made this site unfun for me to post at with your negativity.. I have been holding back for quite sometime to tell you this but I'm not anymore.. The actors and actresses do need a break so they don't get burned out by working on making Ad enjoyable for you and the rest of its fanbase ..Mel
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01-30-2005, 08:10 PM	#2
LuV2DreeM Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 20, 2004 Posts: 200	I just checked my yahoo tv listings for next Sunday and saw "Law and Order" on at 8, 9 and 10 o'clock. 3 hours of Law and Order are more preferred than 2 hours of it and us? Why aren't we on at 8 as usual? Extreme Makeover is still on.......so is Cold Case and Desperate Housewives. So the "story" that we are being pulled for Feb. sweeps or because there are specials and Grammy's and the Super Bowl........ I just don't buy. Why aren't the other shows being "pulled" for the same reason? Like I said earlier............."farewell". Peace.

01-31-2005, 05:28 PM	#4
LuV2DreeM Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 20, 2004 Posts: 200	It is not good news: I will let "tvobscurities" analyze it for us, he/she seems to have a better understanding of ratings than anyone (including me) on this board. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the early report from tv.zap2it.com: At 8 p.m. CBS got a 10.6/16 from "Cold Case," though ABC picked up some ground with the 9.2/14 for "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition." FOX grabbed third with "The Simpsons" (5.7/9) and "Arrested Development" (4.1/6), edging NBC's "American Dreams." The WB got a 2.3/3 from "Charmed." >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can only guess we came somewhere in between 3 million and 6 million viewers (possibly our LOWEST for the year).......I don't even WANT to try to guess the 18-49 group. I will let "tvobscurities" fill us in on that one. As I said in the first post here......"farewell American Dreams" Anyone expressing anger toward me or any other fan should redirect their anger towards the 7 million or more, over 50% viewership, who have STOPPPED supporting us by not watching the show. But not really at them, per se, but at the FACT that they decided to leave.......leaving our ratings drastically low. Peace.

01-31-2005, 09:55 PM	#5
rusyd Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Mar 30, 2004 Posts: 13,505	I agree w Storywriter. Could you please chill out about AD being dropped? If it does it does, but don't rush it. Let us enjoy the show w out the negative feedback every week. Thank You.

01-31-2005, 10:27 PM	#7
tvfan0101 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 29, 2003 Posts: 961	LuV2DreeM is simple being realistic. The series is in danger of being cancelled, and perhaps without a conclusion. We really do not know. The fact that NBC will not even give an episode count for this season is disturbing. On the other hand, episodes earlier this season were up from last season, if I recall correctly, the series is currently in the upper 50s for the season (out of, what, 120+ shows) and everyone knows NBC is having a lackluster season overall. We can and should enjoy the episodes we are given for the rest of this season. To ignore the fact that the show may not come back next season, however, is seeing things through rose-colored glasses. We all love the show, we all watch the show, we all want to keep loving and watching the show. Sadly, we may not get the chance. I can understand not wanting to think about the show being cancelled, but LuV2DreeM has every right to worry about it. I worry about it. I know other people who worry about it. Just do not read this topic or others like it if you do not want to worry, as vashti1999 suggested.

02-01-2005, 12:31 AM	#8
LuV2DreeM Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 20, 2004 Posts: 200	Thanks "tvobscurities"........I do feel kind of picked on. And for what? CARING. But to be realistic.......these are talented actors/actresses.......so we will see them on other shows/movies if it does get cancelled. But being the soft-hearted woman I am.....I kind of get sad thinking of the inevitable. A lot of shows don't even get more than one season. We are now completing our third. So I guess I can feel good about that. Peace.

02-01-2005, 09:30 AM	#9
LuV2DreeM Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 20, 2004 Posts: 200	Did anyone get the final numbers for our last show yet? Peace.

02-01-2005, 08:34 PM	#10
rusyd Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Mar 30, 2004 Posts: 13,505	I didn't mean to offend or hurt you Luv2Dreem,and I realize and care that the show may be canclled. It is my favoriote show and I have been watching it since the begining. I just don't like to hear and see statistics on the show everyweek. I do have the right,though to read and post on any thread on this site. Even if I don't agree w the thread starter. Thank you.

02-01-2005, 10:05 PM	#11
LuV2DreeM Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 20, 2004 Posts: 200	So I'm sitting there trying to feel "good" about what has transpired in the last few weeks. And then it came to me: I'm NOT really feeling bad for the actors/actresses......they are a talented bunch and will undoubtedly get other parts if the show gets cancelled.....eventually. But in the meantime they each make 100,000's of dollars and won't be without food/shelter anytime soon. So it must be ME that I'm feeling sorry for........it's my greed to have this show on tv that is the problem. Wanting something for ME.......WOW! I don't like greed. Not in others......not in myself. So there you go. If the show stays on.....I'm okay with it.....(more than okay, I must say) If it goes off............I'm okay with that too. Finally, some peace of mind. Peace.

02-01-2005, 10:09 PM	#12
rusyd Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Mar 30, 2004 Posts: 13,505	Don't worry alot of us will feel bad if and when it is cancelled. We can send postcards and reply to sites promoting the show, and just keep watching and enjoying the show while it is on.

02-02-2005, 11:03 PM	#13
LuV2DreeM Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 20, 2004 Posts: 200	Thanks for your nice words. I don't feel that you necessarily attacked me. I don't think any of us wants the show to be cancelled. Peace.

02-03-2005, 02:59 PM	#14
rusyd Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Mar 30, 2004 Posts: 13,505	I'm glad we've cleared that up. I definitley don't want the show cancelled. It is really the only show I make sure to watch ever week. I hope we can continue to talk about the show on this site for a long time to come, but if we can't there is not much I can do.

02-03-2005, 06:00 PM	#15
LuV2DreeM Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 20, 2004 Posts: 200	That's why I bought the dvd's. I still watch AD.......every day! So I think everyone should put their money where their mouth is and buy the dvd's. I don't know if that will help keep it on the air.........but it won't hurt. That way you still get to see it...........and you are ABSOLUTELY immune from the effects of RATINGS. I love it. Peace.