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Old 01-08-2005, 04:20 PM   #1
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Default I'm sorry to say this but...

Raven has changed too much over the years...physically. I remember how she used to look and I used to be obsessed with her (back in Dr. Dolittle 2 and early That's So Raven season) but now, honestly, she just isn't attractive anymore for one reason...yup, you guessed it, she's fat...I know you guys will disagree because you're fans, but you're only kidding yourselves if you can't see that Raven is fat now...I saw the new episode last night when she was mistaken for the Russian gymnast, and after looking at the girl she was supposed to resemble, then looking back at Raven, I am just amazed at how big she has gotten...It seems that most magazine articles I read about her mentions something that has to do with her body size...I remember reading an article in a magazine a couple months back about how she has trouble finding clothes that fit right and things like that...she also says that she doesn't care what people think about her body and she's not gonna change...and that's not good. With an attitude like that, she might end up gaining even MORE weight and then her career would REALLY be in trouble...Trust me, to make it in the industry, especially being young like that, and trying to be a singer, as much as talent matters, it all comes back to looks...if you're not attractive to look at, you won't go too far...and I think this is why girls like Hilary Duff and Lindsay Lohan are so much more popular...Raven really needs to get this under control before it goes too far...I used to watch That's So Raven religiously only because Raven was easy on the eyes...I used to sit home on Fridays and waiting for 7:00 to hit just to look at Raven since the show sucks, but now, it's like I don't even care anymore...I still have respect for Raven as an actress since she is very talented, but she just isn't attractive to me anymore...Sorry to say this guys, but this is just my opinion...
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Its Ravens life and Ravens body. She shouldn't change for anyone but herself.
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i agree...

and while we are on the "my opinion" thing...i'm gonna say this:
Raven...to me...is a great role model for teens cuz not all people are stick thin and Raven shows that. Like me...i'm not stick thin...but i'm not fat either...but i do have a tummy people can see. Raven shows me that you don't have to be a stick to be beautiful...thats all...its my opinion.
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Raven has changed too much over the years...physically. I remember how she used to look and I used to be obsessed with her (back in Dr. Dolittle 2 and early That's So Raven season) but now, honestly, she just isn't attractive anymore for one reason...yup, you guessed it, she's fat...I know you guys will disagree because you're fans, but you're only kidding yourselves if you can't see that Raven is fat now...I saw the new episode last night when she was mistaken for the Russian gymnast, and after looking at the girl she was supposed to resemble, then looking back at Raven, I am just amazed at how big she has gotten...It seems that most magazine articles I read about her mentions something that has to do with her body size...I remember reading an article in a magazine a couple months back about how she has trouble finding clothes that fit right and things like that...she also says that she doesn't care what people think about her body and she's not gonna change...and that's not good. With an attitude like that, she might end up gaining even MORE weight and then her career would REALLY be in trouble...Trust me, to make it in the industry, especially being young like that, and trying to be a singer, as much as talent matters, it all comes back to looks...if you're not attractive to look at, you won't go too far...and I think this is why girls like Hilary Duff and Lindsay Lohan are so much more popular...Raven really needs to get this under control before it goes too far...I used to watch That's So Raven religiously only because Raven was easy on the eyes...I used to sit home on Fridays and waiting for 7:00 to hit just to look at Raven since the show sucks, but now, it's like I don't even care anymore...I still have respect for Raven as an actress since she is very talented, but she just isn't attractive to me anymore...Sorry to say this guys, but this is just my opinion...

oh c'mon j-rod, u know youre still attractive to rae!
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Raven has changed too much over the years...physically. I remember how she used to look and I used to be obsessed with her (back in Dr. Dolittle 2 and early That's So Raven season) but now, honestly, she just isn't attractive anymore for one reason...yup, you guessed it, she's fat...I know you guys will disagree because you're fans, but you're only kidding yourselves if you can't see that Raven is fat now...I saw the new episode last night when she was mistaken for the Russian gymnast, and after looking at the girl she was supposed to resemble, then looking back at Raven, I am just amazed at how big she has gotten...It seems that most magazine articles I read about her mentions something that has to do with her body size...I remember reading an article in a magazine a couple months back about how she has trouble finding clothes that fit right and things like that...she also says that she doesn't care what people think about her body and she's not gonna change...and that's not good. With an attitude like that, she might end up gaining even MORE weight and then her career would REALLY be in trouble...Trust me, to make it in the industry, especially being young like that, and trying to be a singer, as much as talent matters, it all comes back to looks...if you're not attractive to look at, you won't go too far...and I think this is why girls like Hilary Duff and Lindsay Lohan are so much more popular...Raven really needs to get this under control before it goes too far...I used to watch That's So Raven religiously only because Raven was easy on the eyes...I used to sit home on Fridays and waiting for 7:00 to hit just to look at Raven since the show sucks, but now, it's like I don't even care anymore...I still have respect for Raven as an actress since she is very talented, but she just isn't attractive to me anymore...Sorry to say this guys, but this is just my opinion...
See its ignorance like you on why people have eating disorders cause other people think they need to be a stick in order for them to be attracted to them.There is nothing wrong with Raven cause she is proud of the way she looks.You discust me cause you will only make yourself be attracted to stick people.Somebody like you would make somebody feel insecure about themself cause you only want them if their thin.
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i agree...

and while we are on the "my opinion" thing...i'm gonna say this:
Raven...to me...is a great role model for teens cuz not all people are stick thin and Raven shows that. Like me...i'm not stick thin...but i'm not fat either...but i do have a tummy people can see. Raven shows me that you don't have to be a stick to be beautiful...thats all...its my opinion.
I'm not a teen but I agree with you I'm not a stick either nor am I fat I'm actually on a diet so I don't become obese and I have lost some weight around my thighs and stuff and went down two pants sizes.Its really ignorant that some people only find thin people attractive.

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I'm not a teen but I agree with you I'm not a stick either nor am I fat I'm actually on a diet so I don't become obese and I have lost some weight around my thighs and stuff and went down two pants sizes.Its really ignorant that some people only find stick people attractive.
yea...and i try to diet....but i can't...too much yummy food out there....but i haven't been eating as much as i used to.
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That's the stupidest reason I've ever heard from somebody retiring as a devoted fan...

Hilary Duff and Lindsay Lohan are over-promoted and have no real talent to offer, they're easy to mock and make little girls believe they can do what their idol already has a shot at. I see now it's much harder for people to relate to Raven because she represents something that nobody else wants to anymore...and that is self-love and a commitment to just be who you were designed to be. She's also reminding people that the industry for women to represent skill, talent, beauty and grace, not whorism(new word )

If you're not a fan anymore because of "weight gain" fine it's your PO, but I think that the announcment you made didn't prove anything. You could have kept it to yourself.

People like you are also the reason why there isn't any real tlent being recognized, some people actually look at the industry as a job and not a strip club. I think Raven should keep at the rate she is, this year will disprove all doubts in people's minds. She's young and she's enjoying her life while it's present. I bet she's home right now crying at the lost of ONE fan
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That's the stupidest reason I've ever heard from somebody retiring as a devoted fan...

Hilary Duff and Lindsay Lohan are over-promoted and have no real talent to offer, they're easy to mock and make little girls believe they can do what their idol already has a shot at. I see now it's much harder for people to relate to Raven because she represents something that nobody else wants to anymore...and that is self-love and a commitment to just be who you were designed to be. She's also reminding people that the industry for women to represent skill, talent, beauty and grace, not whorism(new word )

If you're not a fan anymore because of "weight gain" fine it's your PO, but I think that the announcment you made didn't prove anything. You could have kept it to yourself.

People like you are also the reason why there isn't any real tlent being recognized, some people actually look at the industry as a job and not a strip club. I think Raven should keep at the rate she is, this year will disprove all doubts in people's minds. She's young and she's enjoying her life while it's present. I bet she's home right now crying at the lost of ONE fan
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Very well written and said Nikki_luv.
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I do agree with you that Raven is still a very talented actress and an OK singer...but like I said...there's more to success than acting or singing skills...At first I used to be like all you guys: thinking to myself "Raven aint fat, she's thick and healthy and bla bla bla." And even my dad has been attracted to Raven at some point. But now, he's always sayin "DAMN LOOK AT RAVEN!!! LOOK HOW FAT SHE GOT!!! THAT GIRL EATIN TOO MUCH!!!" And I used to be in denial like the rest of you guys are now...but then even my younger brother makes fun of Raven's weight and so do his friends...and so many articles in magazines that I read about her mentions her weight in some way...after all this evidence of me being in denial, I finally woke up and realized why these people are saying this...I started being straight up in my opinions and just realized "Damn those guys are right...Raven is a bit on the heavy side." So the point I'm tryin to prove to you guys is STOP KIDDING YOURSELVES...ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T THINK RAVEN IS FAT IS A BLIND FAN...IF YOU HAVE EYES, YOU CAN LOOK AT HER ON THATS SO RAVEN AND GUEST APPEARANCES SHE MAKES IN OTHER PROGRAMS AND SEE WHAT I MEAN...OR MAYBE NOT SINCE YOU'RE IN DENIAL. If the general public thinks Raven is fat then why do you guys deny it? What reason do you have to deny it? JUST ADMIT IT...RAVEN NEEDS TO HIT THE GYM!!!
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I do agree with you that Raven is still a very talented actress and an OK singer...but like I said...there's more to success than acting or singing skills...At first I used to be like all you guys: thinking to myself "Raven aint fat, she's thick and healthy and bla bla bla." And even my dad has been attracted to Raven at some point. But now, he's always sayin "DAMN LOOK AT RAVEN!!! LOOK HOW FAT SHE GOT!!! THAT GIRL EATIN TOO MUCH!!!" And I used to be in denial like the rest of you guys are now...but then even my younger brother makes fun of Raven's weight and so do his friends...and so many articles in magazines that I read about her mentions her weight in some way...after all this evidence of me being in denial, I finally woke up and realized why these people are saying this...I started being straight up in my opinions and just realized "Damn those guys are right...Raven is a bit on the heavy side." So the point I'm tryin to prove to you guys is STOP KIDDING YOURSELVES...ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T THINK RAVEN IS FAT IS A BLIND FAN...IF YOU HAVE EYES, YOU CAN LOOK AT HER ON THATS SO RAVEN AND GUEST APPEARANCES SHE MAKES IN OTHER PROGRAMS AND SEE WHAT I MEAN...OR MAYBE NOT SINCE YOU'RE IN DENIAL. If the general public thinks Raven is fat then why do you guys deny it? What reason do you have to deny it? JUST ADMIT IT...RAVEN NEEDS TO HIT THE GYM!!!
Why are they in denial just because they like someone regardless of how they look physically? How is that being in "denial"? And why do you even care why they like her?
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I do agree with you that Raven is still a very talented actress and an OK singer...but like I said...there's more to success than acting or singing skills...At first I used to be like all you guys: thinking to myself "Raven aint fat, she's thick and healthy and bla bla bla." And even my dad has been attracted to Raven at some point. But now, he's always sayin "DAMN LOOK AT RAVEN!!! LOOK HOW FAT SHE GOT!!! THAT GIRL EATIN TOO MUCH!!!" And I used to be in denial like the rest of you guys are now...but then even my younger brother makes fun of Raven's weight and so do his friends...and so many articles in magazines that I read about her mentions her weight in some way...after all this evidence of me being in denial, I finally woke up and realized why these people are saying this...I started being straight up in my opinions and just realized "Damn those guys are right...Raven is a bit on the heavy side." So the point I'm tryin to prove to you guys is STOP KIDDING YOURSELVES...ANYBODY WHO DOESN'T THINK RAVEN IS FAT IS A BLIND FAN...IF YOU HAVE EYES, YOU CAN LOOK AT HER ON THATS SO RAVEN AND GUEST APPEARANCES SHE MAKES IN OTHER PROGRAMS AND SEE WHAT I MEAN...OR MAYBE NOT SINCE YOU'RE IN DENIAL. If the general public thinks Raven is fat then why do you guys deny it? What reason do you have to deny it? JUST ADMIT IT...RAVEN NEEDS TO HIT THE GYM!!!
Why are you so concerned about what we think about her? And so just because someone is "fat" they aren't attractive?
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Why are they in denial just because they like someone regardless of how they look physically? How is that being in "denial"? And why do you even care why they like her?
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and you're only kidding yourself because you thing her looks are everything. just because she's fat now doesn't mean she's not a good actress. im so tired of this stupid sh*t now about raven is fat and all that. i admit it that she is fat but who the fuk cares? she's still a good actress and that all that matters, not her fukin overweight body, which i might remind you, isn't even overweight. her hips r just growing fast ok? overwieght are people who cant even climb up the stairs withoug getting stuck.

P.S: Im so tired of fukin people making fun of other people and say they're "sticks." that really offends me. I was called a fukin twig when i was little and i was really sensitive about it. That fukin pisses me off. We're not sticks, it's genes or fast metabalism. You guys just make fun of sticks because some of them are anarexic. Most of them aren't, so just stop it.
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