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JD2635 · 12-28-2004, 04:09 PM

Scott Woolley, an old high school classmate seeks revenge on Karen for ruining his senior year by trying to become president of Walker Inc. After Scott shows a presentation that wows the board, he takes control of the company, much to Karen's dismay. Meanwhile, Jack and Grace take the day off of work to go to the movies. While at the supermarket getting snacks, they run into Vince and his co-worker, and assume Vince is cheating on Will.

Notes:

This is the first episode of 2005, their official final season!
The original title for this episode was "Cries and Misdemeanors."

slackermonkey · 01-07-2005, 01:56 AM

Terrible episode. The Will/Karen plot was boring, and it was blatantly obvious that she would get the company back. The Grace/Jack plot was the same as it was last season with Jack's boyfriend, right down to it also involving the two of them going to the movies.

The only laugh I got was Vince's final exchange with his boss. "You're fired." "What? Why?"

snl75 · 01-07-2005, 03:07 AM

i didnt think it was that great ether they are really running out of ideas

tvfan0101 · 01-07-2005, 11:16 AM

Eh, it was amusing enough. A rather weak plot but then again, the series usually has weak plots.

slackermonkey · 01-07-2005, 11:17 AM

Especially lately.

Will & Grace was never more than fluff entertainment for me, but now it's more a habit than anything else. I really hope this is the last season.

dynoguy88 · 01-07-2005, 01:10 PM

It bums me out that the jokes seem forced and even worse, that the storylines week after week are tired and VERY predictable. You have to blame it all on the writing which used to be top notch.

Remember, Will & Grace has a distinction of being only the 3rd sitcom in history (along with All in the Family and the Golden Girls) as having the entire cast win emmys for their roles. The cast is too talented to be given scripts like this.

Message to David Kohan and Max Mutchnik... come back to the show!! The people you left in charge are NOT doing a good job!

slackermonkey · 01-07-2005, 01:15 PM

They already have come back to the show. They've been there all season, as "creative consultants." They have enough power to influence scripts and jokes and such, but I think it's more that the show has run out of steam than anything else.

Janet McFarland · 01-07-2005, 05:53 PM

Ugh not that great of an episode. All the characters have changed. Like it seems Will and Grace don't have that special bond anymore, like they used to, and even Karen is different

snl75 · 01-07-2005, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by slackermonkey

They already have come back to the show. They've been there all season, as "creative consultants." They have enough power to influence scripts and jokes and such, but I think it's more that the show has run out of steam than anything else.

maybe but a creative consultant credit usally means heres your money for the use of your name now shoo go away and leave the new writers alone so we can take your masterpiece and throw it down the dumper .thats what they are doing to max and david.

12-28-2004, 04:09 PM	#1
JD2635 Banned Banned!! Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 03, 2003 Location: Porterville, CA Posts: 315	The first episode of 2005 in the final season of W&G, "Board Games" 1/6/2005 Scott Woolley, an old high school classmate seeks revenge on Karen for ruining his senior year by trying to become president of Walker Inc. After Scott shows a presentation that wows the board, he takes control of the company, much to Karen's dismay. Meanwhile, Jack and Grace take the day off of work to go to the movies. While at the supermarket getting snacks, they run into Vince and his co-worker, and assume Vince is cheating on Will. Notes: This is the first episode of 2005, their official final season! The original title for this episode was "Cries and Misdemeanors."

01-07-2005, 01:56 AM	#2
slackermonkey the big yellow joint Senior Member Join Date: Oct 05, 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 1,779	Terrible episode. The Will/Karen plot was boring, and it was blatantly obvious that she would get the company back. The Grace/Jack plot was the same as it was last season with Jack's boyfriend, right down to it also involving the two of them going to the movies. The only laugh I got was Vince's final exchange with his boss. "You're fired." "What? Why?"
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01-07-2005, 01:10 PM	#6
dynoguy88 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 01, 2000 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 3,674	reply It bums me out that the jokes seem forced and even worse, that the storylines week after week are tired and VERY predictable. You have to blame it all on the writing which used to be top notch. Remember, Will & Grace has a distinction of being only the 3rd sitcom in history (along with All in the Family and the Golden Girls) as having the entire cast win emmys for their roles. The cast is too talented to be given scripts like this. Message to David Kohan and Max Mutchnik... come back to the show!! The people you left in charge are NOT doing a good job!

01-07-2005, 03:07 AM	#3
snl75 Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 25, 2004 Location: in the formen basement watching snl Posts: 1,377	i didnt think it was that great ether they are really running out of ideas

01-07-2005, 11:16 AM	#4
tvfan0101 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 29, 2003 Posts: 961	Eh, it was amusing enough. A rather weak plot but then again, the series usually has weak plots.

01-07-2005, 11:17 AM	#5
slackermonkey the big yellow joint Senior Member Join Date: Oct 05, 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 1,779	Especially lately. Will & Grace was never more than fluff entertainment for me, but now it's more a habit than anything else. I really hope this is the last season.

01-07-2005, 01:15 PM	#7
slackermonkey the big yellow joint Senior Member Join Date: Oct 05, 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 1,779	They already have come back to the show. They've been there all season, as "creative consultants." They have enough power to influence scripts and jokes and such, but I think it's more that the show has run out of steam than anything else.

01-07-2005, 05:53 PM	#8
Janet McFarland Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 09, 2004 Posts: 4,344	Ugh not that great of an episode. All the characters have changed. Like it seems Will and Grace don't have that special bond anymore, like they used to, and even Karen is different