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desilu #1 · 12-22-2004, 10:17 PM

I don't know about everyone else but in tonight's episode when Beaver got Eddie to type his homework that HE wrote on paper, I didn't see it as cheating. I do think that he should have told the teacher that he had someone type it for him until he learned to do so himself, but how on earth was it cheating? Also, I know this will not sound nice but...how is it that difficult to learn to type at that age? Beaver was really a slow learner, no wonder Ward lost his patience with him.

Tonyd · 12-22-2004, 10:44 PM

I certainly don't think having Eddie type it was cheating either, but as you say he should have told Mr. Bailey. I have to disagree with you on him being a "slow learner" though. It took me a whole semester of 7th Grade to learn it and they apparently expected Beaver to learn in just a few days!

desilu #1 · 12-22-2004, 10:55 PM

Well, I think there were alot of things Beaver just had a hard time learning and I thought that typing was one. All Ward asked of him was to keep trying and Beaver just decided that he didn't want to work at it and that's why Ward didn't want to buy the thing to begin with. Beaver just didn't "get it" with most things,or so it seems to me, especially when he was in that awkward age. I swear he had what we refer to as ADHD today.

Tonyd · 12-22-2004, 10:57 PM

That's probably true but how could they expect him to learn so fast? Also did you all notice the start of a mustache on Beaver in this one?

desilu #1 · 12-22-2004, 11:13 PM

Yes I did. I thought I was just seeing things.

Tonyd · 12-22-2004, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by desilu #1
Yes I did. I thought I was just seeing things.

I thought it looked really funny!

Corvetteguy · 12-23-2004, 01:09 AM

I agree about Beaver being bad at learning things. The episode they showed the other day about him playing basketball was painful to watch as was him becoming a football hero in the last season. I always hated the way he acted about being neat and the subject of girls. Beaver was a slob. Speaking of the football hero episode, Did anyone else think that the boy who played Terry (the big guy who looked like a high school senior instead of an 8th grader) seemed to be a self conceited jerk ? He was featured in several episodes and always came off like someone who thought they were a " pretty boy". I did have to laugh when in one episode Beaver told Terry he might be going to Fallbrook instead of Mayfield and Terry said "Isn't that a state prison".

Tonyd · 12-23-2004, 01:20 AM

I don't like Terry Richmond either, mainly because he reminds me of a relative who is also a jerk and football player.

JudgeGarth · 12-26-2004, 06:44 PM

In real life the guy that played Terry was considerably older than Beaver. He was more Wally's age. We had some posts about this earlier. He was in the Frank Sinatra movie "Suddenly" in 1955.

1954Boomer · 12-27-2004, 04:57 AM

About Beaver's typing, perhaps he should have uncovered those keys. Perhaps he "Touch Typing Method" wasn't working for him.

tdr · 12-27-2004, 09:31 PM

The episode, "Beaver's Typewriter," is a good example of how in the last 2 seasons they were still trying to keep Beaver from aging and moving on, so some story lines overblow a trivial thing. In this case it's Beaver wanting to give up becasue learning to type is not so easy. But where did he get the idea that it was? Evidently handwriting was not that easy for him either, as his teachers were complaining about all his "scratches and erasures." So Beaver's "crime" in this ep is letting Eddie type his assignment when it was assumed that Beaver himself had typed it. Yeah, big deal. The silliest thing IMO is Beaver's guilt complex and his attempts at coverup by taking Eddie's advice to say "the typewriter won't work" when he has just turned a lock switch... (Mr. Bailey: Are you trying to say your typewriter is broken, Theodore? Beaver: I guess that's what I'm trying to say, Mr. Bailey.) Wouldn't a discerning teacher really believe that, the way Beaver said it?

It's not a crime to have your assignment typed by someone else, as long as it is your work-- Eddie Haskell was right about that. The only thing really wrong is that Beaver indicated the typewriter was inoperable when it wasn't, and Ward is "not going to let you off the hook" about learning to type. Well, let's just hope it did Beaver some good later on.

~*KristenCleaver*~ · 12-27-2004, 09:39 PM

I never really undertood how it was cheating either! Beaver did come off as a little unwilling to learn at times, and maybe even a little slow. I did think that they could have made it easier for him to learn typing though. I am 13, and I still don't know how to type the right way. I type REALLY fast but with my two index fingers. I am willing to learn the right way, but I heard that you can take classes for that in High School too. I don't know lol...

Tonyd · 12-27-2004, 10:18 PM

As I said I took it in Grade 7. I don't see how they expected him to learn it so fast!

~*KristenCleaver*~ · 12-27-2004, 10:21 PM

Me either! Poor Beav lol.

desilu #1 · 12-28-2004, 07:46 AM

Ward just wanted him to give it the old college try and he couldn't even do that! If he had tried and went to Ward and told him he will need more time, he would have understood. Ward was hardly the monster that the boys made him out to be.

12-22-2004, 10:44 PM	#2
Tonyd Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 27, 2004 Location: Lawton Oklahoma USA! Posts: 720	I certainly don't think having Eddie type it was cheating either, but as you say he should have told Mr. Bailey. I have to disagree with you on him being a "slow learner" though. It took me a whole semester of 7th Grade to learn it and they apparently expected Beaver to learn in just a few days!
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12-27-2004, 09:39 PM	#12
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12-22-2004, 10:17 PM	#1
desilu #1 Lucy/Desi 4-EVER Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 23, 2000 Location: Battle Creek, Michigan USA Posts: 724	Beaver's typewriter I don't know about everyone else but in tonight's episode when Beaver got Eddie to type his homework that HE wrote on paper, I didn't see it as cheating. I do think that he should have told the teacher that he had someone type it for him until he learned to do so himself, but how on earth was it cheating? Also, I know this will not sound nice but...how is it that difficult to learn to type at that age? Beaver was really a slow learner, no wonder Ward lost his patience with him.

12-22-2004, 10:55 PM	#3
desilu #1 Lucy/Desi 4-EVER Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 23, 2000 Location: Battle Creek, Michigan USA Posts: 724	Well, I think there were alot of things Beaver just had a hard time learning and I thought that typing was one. All Ward asked of him was to keep trying and Beaver just decided that he didn't want to work at it and that's why Ward didn't want to buy the thing to begin with. Beaver just didn't "get it" with most things,or so it seems to me, especially when he was in that awkward age. I swear he had what we refer to as ADHD today.

12-22-2004, 10:57 PM	#4
Tonyd Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 27, 2004 Location: Lawton Oklahoma USA! Posts: 720	That's probably true but how could they expect him to learn so fast? Also did you all notice the start of a mustache on Beaver in this one?

12-22-2004, 11:13 PM	#5
desilu #1 Lucy/Desi 4-EVER Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 23, 2000 Location: Battle Creek, Michigan USA Posts: 724	Yes I did. I thought I was just seeing things.

12-23-2004, 01:09 AM	#7
Corvetteguy Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 01, 2003 Location: TN Posts: 126	I agree about Beaver being bad at learning things. The episode they showed the other day about him playing basketball was painful to watch as was him becoming a football hero in the last season. I always hated the way he acted about being neat and the subject of girls. Beaver was a slob. Speaking of the football hero episode, Did anyone else think that the boy who played Terry (the big guy who looked like a high school senior instead of an 8th grader) seemed to be a self conceited jerk ? He was featured in several episodes and always came off like someone who thought they were a " pretty boy". I did have to laugh when in one episode Beaver told Terry he might be going to Fallbrook instead of Mayfield and Terry said "Isn't that a state prison".

12-23-2004, 01:20 AM	#8
Tonyd Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 27, 2004 Location: Lawton Oklahoma USA! Posts: 720	I don't like Terry Richmond either, mainly because he reminds me of a relative who is also a jerk and football player.

12-26-2004, 06:44 PM	#9
JudgeGarth Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 07, 2004 Location: Wheaton, IL Posts: 443	In real life the guy that played Terry was considerably older than Beaver. He was more Wally's age. We had some posts about this earlier. He was in the Frank Sinatra movie "Suddenly" in 1955.

12-27-2004, 04:57 AM	#10
1954Boomer Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 18, 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 482	About Beaver's typing, perhaps he should have uncovered those keys. Perhaps he "Touch Typing Method" wasn't working for him.

12-27-2004, 09:31 PM	#11
tdr Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 23, 2001 Posts: 1,454	The episode, "Beaver's Typewriter," is a good example of how in the last 2 seasons they were still trying to keep Beaver from aging and moving on, so some story lines overblow a trivial thing. In this case it's Beaver wanting to give up becasue learning to type is not so easy. But where did he get the idea that it was? Evidently handwriting was not that easy for him either, as his teachers were complaining about all his "scratches and erasures." So Beaver's "crime" in this ep is letting Eddie type his assignment when it was assumed that Beaver himself had typed it. Yeah, big deal. The silliest thing IMO is Beaver's guilt complex and his attempts at coverup by taking Eddie's advice to say "the typewriter won't work" when he has just turned a lock switch... (Mr. Bailey: Are you trying to say your typewriter is broken, Theodore? Beaver: I guess that's what I'm trying to say, Mr. Bailey.) Wouldn't a discerning teacher really believe that, the way Beaver said it? It's not a crime to have your assignment typed by someone else, as long as it is your work-- Eddie Haskell was right about that. The only thing really wrong is that Beaver indicated the typewriter was inoperable when it wasn't, and Ward is "not going to let you off the hook" about learning to type. Well, let's just hope it did Beaver some good later on.

12-27-2004, 10:18 PM	#13
Tonyd Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 27, 2004 Location: Lawton Oklahoma USA! Posts: 720	As I said I took it in Grade 7. I don't see how they expected him to learn it so fast!

12-27-2004, 10:21 PM	#14
~KristenCleaver~ Kristen & Tony <3 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 30, 2003 Location: New York Posts: 1,012	Me either! Poor Beav lol.

12-28-2004, 07:46 AM	#15
desilu #1 Lucy/Desi 4-EVER Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 23, 2000 Location: Battle Creek, Michigan USA Posts: 724	Ward just wanted him to give it the old college try and he couldn't even do that! If he had tried and went to Ward and told him he will need more time, he would have understood. Ward was hardly the monster that the boys made him out to be.