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Tonyd · 12-13-2004, 10:55 PM

I really felt sorry for Beaver in tonight's episode. But the way Ward and June handle things in the end to make him feel loved is so great too!

It also occurred to me how funny it is that Wally seemingly never went through the "awkward age!"

desilu #1 · 12-13-2004, 11:19 PM

Not everyone goes through the awkward age. IMO, Beaver did not do puberty well at all. In alot of ways I think it was the writers' fault because of the style they gave him,it seems they didn't allow him to change with the times mentally or phyiscally. Now that voice of his was no one's fault but he seemed to squint alot as he got older, whether it was a nervous habit or lights, he should have got a grip on that. Wally took much better care of himself so I think that's why he went through that time alot smoother. They kept Beaver a slob.

Tonyd · 12-13-2004, 11:38 PM

Yeah it seems like they always wanted to make Beaver younger than he was and Wally seem more "mature."

crakker_jakk · 12-14-2004, 12:46 AM

Yeah, Wally went through adolescence gracefully. Beaver was a mess. To be honest, I never thought he was cute, even as a li'l kid.

HaskellGirl · 12-14-2004, 02:35 PM

I thought Beaver was super cute as a kid and he was also cute as pre-adolescent. At this time of the series though, he definately is going through an awkward phase, and the writing isn't helping. But I also don't think he looked as bad as his classmates! He had a few good-looking ones in the later years (especially Tim Matheson as Mike), but usually he looked better than the rest.

Tonyd · 12-14-2004, 04:15 PM

I think he was really cute when he was little too. When you see these later episodes it is kind of hard to realize it's even the same person.

duluthduke · 12-14-2004, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by Tonyd
I think he was really cute when he was little too. When you see these later episodes it is kind of hard to realize it's even the same person.

I agree that he sure did change over the course of the show's run!

rockrgurl71110 · 12-15-2004, 06:54 PM

I don't think they let beaver "grow up",so to speak.

Tonyd · 12-15-2004, 08:17 PM

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Originally posted by rockrgurl71110
I don't think they let beaver "grow up",so to speak.

That's true and it's kinda too bad, because when they do give him a more mature role, like in "Beaver's Fear," he does a really good job!

rockrgurl71110 · 12-15-2004, 09:44 PM

yeah i would have loved to seen him in matured roles

1954Boomer · 12-17-2004, 08:45 AM

I liked this episode as well. In contrast to "Beaver the Bunny," the writers actually made the character of Beaver act his age, which was about 12 at this point in the series. I also agree that Ward and June handled Beaver's "adolescent turmoil" very well.

miss landers · 01-14-2005, 06:02 AM

Sorry. I thought Beaver was much too old to be carrying on the way he did in this episode. The "Nobody Loves Me" Complex is for 8 year olds. Jerry Mathers was a decent child actor but the show's viewers wanted to see a cute little kid doing cute little things forever. Mathers got too old and too tall too fast to be the cute little kid doing cute little things forever. The show's viewers weren't interested in seeing the real life of a 12 year old and the producers were stuck trying to keep Mathers something of a 8 year old in order to keep the show on the air for as long as possible. I thought this episode was one of the least interesting episodes in the entire series. It made the title character appear weak, dopey, immature, and pathetic.

~*KristenCleaver*~ · 01-14-2005, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by HaskellGirl

I thought Beaver was super cute as a kid and he was also cute as pre-adolescent. At this time of the series though, he definately is going through an awkward phase, and the writing isn't helping. But I also don't think he looked as bad as his classmates! He had a few good-looking ones in the later years (especially Tim Matheson as Mike), but usually he looked better than the rest.

I thought Beaver was adorable as a young child! Even when he got older he was pretty good-looking too, it was just that awkward age that was horrible.

12-13-2004, 10:55 PM	#1
Tonyd Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 27, 2004 Location: Lawton Oklahoma USA! Posts: 720	"Nobody Loves Me" I really felt sorry for Beaver in tonight's episode. But the way Ward and June handle things in the end to make him feel loved is so great too! It also occurred to me how funny it is that Wally seemingly never went through the "awkward age!"
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01-14-2005, 06:02 AM	#12
miss landers Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 29, 2004 Location: Northeast Posts: 226	Beaver Too Old Sorry. I thought Beaver was much too old to be carrying on the way he did in this episode. The "Nobody Loves Me" Complex is for 8 year olds. Jerry Mathers was a decent child actor but the show's viewers wanted to see a cute little kid doing cute little things forever. Mathers got too old and too tall too fast to be the cute little kid doing cute little things forever. The show's viewers weren't interested in seeing the real life of a 12 year old and the producers were stuck trying to keep Mathers something of a 8 year old in order to keep the show on the air for as long as possible. I thought this episode was one of the least interesting episodes in the entire series. It made the title character appear weak, dopey, immature, and pathetic.

12-13-2004, 11:19 PM	#2
desilu #1 Lucy/Desi 4-EVER Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 23, 2000 Location: Battle Creek, Michigan USA Posts: 724	Not everyone goes through the awkward age. IMO, Beaver did not do puberty well at all. In alot of ways I think it was the writers' fault because of the style they gave him,it seems they didn't allow him to change with the times mentally or phyiscally. Now that voice of his was no one's fault but he seemed to squint alot as he got older, whether it was a nervous habit or lights, he should have got a grip on that. Wally took much better care of himself so I think that's why he went through that time alot smoother. They kept Beaver a slob.

12-13-2004, 11:38 PM	#3
Tonyd Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 27, 2004 Location: Lawton Oklahoma USA! Posts: 720	Yeah it seems like they always wanted to make Beaver younger than he was and Wally seem more "mature."

12-14-2004, 12:46 AM	#4
crakker_jakk ~~~~~~~~~~~ Frequent Poster Join Date: May 27, 2004 Location: ~~~~~ Posts: 161	Yeah, Wally went through adolescence gracefully. Beaver was a mess. To be honest, I never thought he was cute, even as a li'l kid.

12-14-2004, 02:35 PM	#5
HaskellGirl Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 15, 2002 Posts: 590	I thought Beaver was super cute as a kid and he was also cute as pre-adolescent. At this time of the series though, he definately is going through an awkward phase, and the writing isn't helping. But I also don't think he looked as bad as his classmates! He had a few good-looking ones in the later years (especially Tim Matheson as Mike), but usually he looked better than the rest.

12-14-2004, 04:15 PM	#6
Tonyd Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 27, 2004 Location: Lawton Oklahoma USA! Posts: 720	I think he was really cute when he was little too. When you see these later episodes it is kind of hard to realize it's even the same person.

12-15-2004, 06:54 PM	#8
rockrgurl71110 Registered User Frequent Poster Join Date: Nov 07, 2004 Location: Barksdale AFB, LA Posts: 159	I don't think they let beaver "grow up",so to speak.

12-15-2004, 09:44 PM	#10
rockrgurl71110 Registered User Frequent Poster Join Date: Nov 07, 2004 Location: Barksdale AFB, LA Posts: 159	yeah i would have loved to seen him in matured roles

12-17-2004, 08:45 AM	#11
1954Boomer Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 18, 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 482	I liked this episode as well. In contrast to "Beaver the Bunny," the writers actually made the character of Beaver act his age, which was about 12 at this point in the series. I also agree that Ward and June handled Beaver's "adolescent turmoil" very well.