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Chambers · 12-01-2004, 12:37 AM

I'm still stumped on this one one. I'm a meat-eater (and boy do I love meat) yet I'm also into animal rights. I can't stand to think of an animal suffering, but I've been trained to be numb about all that when I eat chickens and cows. Oddly enough I don't give a crap about the feelings of fish or insects.

So, anthropological studies indicate that humans developed their large brains only because they were able to get plenty of protein from meat. Technically, we were designed to eat meat. And, ya know, everything in nature lives off of something. From mammals to bacteria - things die all the time to keep us alive.

But...what do I do about all the cute, delicious little animals that are dying and suffering in the meat industry?

robyrob · 12-01-2004, 12:45 AM

just eat the ugly ones.

Hollow · 12-01-2004, 12:46 AM

once they're dead, they're dead. might as well gain some nutrition from it.

Chambers · 12-01-2004, 12:50 AM

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Originally posted by safety pin
once they're dead, they're dead. might as well gain some nutrition from it.

Good point. I mean, it would take billions of people to stop the meat industry. So I might as well continue to support it.

Chambers · 12-01-2004, 12:51 AM

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Originally posted by robyrob
just eat the ugly ones.

Haha. I was just watching Futurama and Leila went on about how she only eats stupid animals.

Dutabi84 · 12-01-2004, 12:56 AM

Actually, the intestines of meat-eaters are significantly shorter than those of plant eaters, yet evolution can be attributed to eating meat. Our teeth/hands are also not your typical meat eater's teeth/hands.

I think it sucks how animals are treated and raised, but I give in to the temptations of meat too easily

HEY! We might as well enjoy the animal's fruitful meat. They would be proud to see us with smiles on our faces after gobbling them up, from up in little animal heaven.

Chambers · 12-01-2004, 01:03 AM

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Originally posted by Dutabi84
Actually, the intestines of meat-eaters are significantly shorter than those of plant eaters, yet evolution can be attributed to eating meat. Our teeth/hands are also not your typical meat eater's teeth/hands.

I think it sucks how animals are treated and raised, but I give in to the temptations of meat too easily

HEY! We might as well enjoy the animal's fruitful meat. They would be proud to see us with smiles on our faces after gobbling them up, from up in little animal heaven.

About your first comment - yes, we're not purely meat eaters. We're a mixture of carnivores and herbivores, like many apes are.

As for your last comment...does that mean that all animals we eat go to heaven...precisely because we eat them? I feel better already.

Did any of you see those commercials on MTV showing cows and other animals being slaughtered? Those made me sick. I think PETA was the culprit. Anybody know what I'm talking about?

Dutabi84 · 12-01-2004, 01:18 AM

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Originally posted by Chambers
About your first comment - yes, we're not purely meat eaters. We're a mixture of carnivores and herbivores, like many apes are.

As for your last comment...does that mean that all animals we eat go to heaven...precisely because we eat them? I feel better already.

Did any of you see those commercials on MTV showing cows and other animals being slaughtered? Those made me sick. I think PETA was the culprit. Anybody know what I'm talking about?

That is very true. I think it's hard to make an argument for or against it.

Well, don't you remember the movie "All Dogs go to Heaven"? I'm assuming the same is true for any other animal. Because if it's in the movies, it MUST be true! But I think the animals would be proud of themselves to see us so joyfully pouring salt, pepper, and A1 sauce all over their innards, and devouring it with an ear to ear grin. Dontcha think?

crystals · 12-01-2004, 01:22 AM

I'm a lacto-ovo-pesco-pollo vegetarian. There are such terms for a person who eats milk products (lacto), eats eggs (ovo), fish (pesco) and poultrys: in my case chicken and turkey (pollo). You can look it up on the web: types of vegetarians.

I chose not to eat red meat because it is healthier and I like cows. Someday I plan to have pet cows. I think that would be so cool.

Cashodeen · 12-01-2004, 01:56 AM

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Originally posted by crystals
I'm a lacto-ovo-pesco-pollo vegetarian. There are such terms for a person who eats milk products (lacto), eats eggs (ovo), fish (pesco) and poultrys: in my case chicken and turkey (pollo). You can look it up on the web: types of vegetarians.

I chose not to eat red meat because it is healthier and I like cows. Someday I plan to have pet cows. I think that would be so cool.

I hate to break it to you, but you're a phony vegatarian. As am I. But I try to not slip up and call myself one for the most part though. I still eat seafood. As long as you eat some kind of "meat" you're no vegetarian.

A pesco-pollo vegetarian is an oxymoron really. Don't listen to sites that say otherwise.

ThirteenInchEscape · 12-01-2004, 03:24 AM

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Originally posted by Chambers
About your first comment - yes, we're not purely meat eaters. We're a mixture of carnivores and herbivores, like many apes are.

I believe the word you're searching for is "omnivore"

I really dont like most meat, I eat it occasionally though, I do quite like fish...I dont really have any moral feelings about it, but I figure since I dont really like it I may as well not eat it.

This is going to sound kind of stupid, but I will eat plant foods that I dont like very much, but I wont eat meats that I really dont like, even if I dislike them an equal amount, because though some meat is very healthy, if I'm not going to enjoy my food I'd just as well not kill an animal for it.

I dont think that I've just had steak in a long time...though venison, and I suppose there is a decent argument for eating that, in that the deer live their pleasant lives in the woods as they would naturally live, and humans hunt them, as they were meant to do...or something (I dont hunt but extended family members do, so we get the meat sometimes, very, very good)

Sterling Holobyte · 12-01-2004, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by crystals

I chose not to eat red meat because it is healthier and I like cows. Someday I plan to have pet cows. I think that would be so cool.

I hope you have a big litterbox.

dawsongirl · 12-01-2004, 11:37 PM

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Originally posted by Chambers
But...what do I do about all the cute, delicious little animals that are dying and suffering in the meat industry?

I don't think I've ever eaten an animal I thought was cute. Chickens...ugly. Turkeys...really ugly. Pigs...ugly. Cows...ugly. Hot Dogs...no one knows...so nope.

Anyway, I'm not a vegetarian. I don't think I could live just on fruits and veggies and whatever else. I also live in a huge farming state, so farmers kind of like you to eat meat. Helps them keep a job. That and corn. You have to eat corn here. It's a law. Besides...if it pisses off PETA...I'm all for it.

*Pleasant Tomorrow* · 12-01-2004, 11:39 PM

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Originally posted by safety pin
once they're dead, they're dead. might as well gain some nutrition from it.

That's my take on it. I won't kill anything myself, in fact...I think cows are so ****ing cute. But what are you going to do?

dawsongirl · 12-01-2004, 11:40 PM

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Originally posted by Chambers
Haha. I was just watching Futurama and Leila went on about how she only eats stupid animals.

I remember that.

12-01-2004, 12:37 AM	#1
Chambers The Crane Trinity Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 27, 2004 Location: Where everybody knows a Crane. Posts: 5,427	Vegetarianism: cases for and against I'm still stumped on this one one. I'm a meat-eater (and boy do I love meat) yet I'm also into animal rights. I can't stand to think of an animal suffering, but I've been trained to be numb about all that when I eat chickens and cows. Oddly enough I don't give a crap about the feelings of fish or insects. So, anthropological studies indicate that humans developed their large brains only because they were able to get plenty of protein from meat. Technically, we were designed to eat meat. And, ya know, everything in nature lives off of something. From mammals to bacteria - things die all the time to keep us alive. But...what do I do about all the cute, delicious little animals that are dying and suffering in the meat industry?
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12-01-2004, 01:22 AM	#9
crystals Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 02, 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,829	I'm a lacto-ovo-pesco-pollo vegetarian. There are such terms for a person who eats milk products (lacto), eats eggs (ovo), fish (pesco) and poultrys: in my case chicken and turkey (pollo). You can look it up on the web: types of vegetarians. I chose not to eat red meat because it is healthier and I like cows. Someday I plan to have pet cows. I think that would be so cool.
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12-01-2004, 12:46 AM	#3
Hollow Member Forum Superstar Join Date: Dec 16, 2001 Posts: 30,406	once they're dead, they're dead. might as well gain some nutrition from it.

12-01-2004, 12:56 AM	#6
Dutabi84 kittens must die Forum Fanatic Join Date: Apr 22, 2003 Location: MN/TX Posts: 11,026	Actually, the intestines of meat-eaters are significantly shorter than those of plant eaters, yet evolution can be attributed to eating meat. Our teeth/hands are also not your typical meat eater's teeth/hands. I think it sucks how animals are treated and raised, but I give in to the temptations of meat too easily HEY! We might as well enjoy the animal's fruitful meat. They would be proud to see us with smiles on our faces after gobbling them up, from up in little animal heaven.