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mouse28 · 11-19-2004, 02:59 PM

I have been a fan forever--but I have to say that in the last few episodes--they seem to be pushing the envelope--in direct defiance to the people who voted down "gay marriage" (not that I personally blame the writers or actors). I find all of it really funny--some of it even slightly veiled, but I am really afraid they're going to get cancelled. (but then I came here and read that this MAY be the final season anyway...so maybe they're all just figuring, "What the hell...may as well go out with a bang.")

JD2635 · 11-19-2004, 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by mouse28
I have been a fan forever--but I have to say that in the last few episodes--they seem to be pushing the envelope--in direct defiance to the people who voted down "gay marriage" (not that I personally blame the writers or actors). I find all of it really funny--some of it even slightly veiled, but I am really afraid they're going to get cancelled. (but then I came here and read that this MAY be the final season anyway...so maybe they're all just figuring, "What the hell...may as well go out with a bang.")

Hi Mouse28, Yes, this will be the final seasons of Will & Grace, That '70s Show, King of the Hill Raymond and NYPD BLUE. The reason, all of their contacts are up after this season. Face it, Will & Grace is really starting to become very stale. I mean if they did an 8th season, the cast wouldn't be paid alot of money and besides the show will really start to be like Drew Carey and Just Shoot Me's late seasons (1995-2004)-(1997-2003) but by ending this year for W&G, the show will regain respect and also will at least end while the show is still good intead of a whimper.

Take for instance That '70s Show, Ashton Kutcher and Topher Grace said in Feburary this the 7th season (this season) would be the last for both of them. They are making a good choice to end the show while it is still good. Also the show is in 1979 which means that by the time they are in 1980, the show ends with a big bang. If you look on their IMDb.com info on T70sS it says (1998-2005) Also on W&G this past Feburary Debra Messing also said that the 7th season (this year) would be the last for W&G too. Will & Grace (1998-2005). By the time the show ends, both shows start their cable run on FX (T70sS) and Lifetime (W&G).

For NYPD Blue (1993-2005) and Raymond (1996-2005), they are ending very good! And for KOTH (1997-2005) as well so that the show end swell instead of a whimper.

dynoguy88 · 11-20-2004, 06:03 PM

mouse28, I am here to tell you - DON'T LISTEN TO JD2635.

This poster has been annoying everyone on this forum for quite some time now because they think the show is ending this year even though there has been no articles written about it, no cast members mentioning it, nothing, nadda, zilch.

It has gotten to the point now where it seems he/she is doing it on purpose. Probably just to drive us crazy. And for some reason, JD2635 keeps constantly mentioning the end of "That 70's show," as if it has anything to do with Will & Grace, WHICH IT DOESN'T!!!!

While most here are actually dissapointed with how the episodes have been so far this season and last, there has been no word what-so-ever from any source that the show is ending this season. So do what the rest of us are doing, wait and see.

JD2635 is like a broken record player that will continue to post the same annoying, obnoxious things until you want to just go bang your head against the wall. Pay no attention to her/him.

Janet McFarland · 11-21-2004, 01:09 AM

I agree with dynoguy88! And I personally think the best episode of this season was 'Saving Grace Pt. 1'

Will and Grace Fanatic · 11-25-2004, 01:36 AM

When people came on here and kept saying that Will and Grace was going to end this season I wasn't so sure. Because NBC is in a ratings rut this season with Friends and Frasier off the air. But the ratings Will and Grace are having only shows more proof that NBC will want to end the show. So sorry to say I think it will end. I don't know why the ratings are going down so much. It may be that the show is becoming to controvesial with Will having a boyfriend and all. But I don't think they are trying to cancel it. They may have thought a boyfriend would be good for the show but maybe that is what is taking viewers away.

slackermonkey · 11-25-2004, 02:33 AM

But the ratings aren't doing that bad. NBC has really been slipping this season, but by their standards Will & Grace is doing fine.

For example, WB's shows are doing horrible compared to other networks, but for the WB, some of them are hits because they're judged by WB as a network.

Will and Grace Fanatic · 11-25-2004, 07:46 PM

Yes, the ratings aren't that bad, but with the show bringing in only 11.9 million viewers for one of there episodes that is not good. Frasier had ratings that went that low last season and that is one of the reasons it wasn't renewed for a 12th season. will and Grace really hasn't had ratings this low since the first season. They average 11.9 viewers in there 1st season. It just doesn't look good for a show that at one time got 27 million viewers for a 100th episode.

slackermonkey · 11-26-2004, 12:09 AM

The television landscape is different than it was when Will & Grace was in its first season, thanks to cable and other entertainment venues. It's like saying comic books are outrageously priced today because they used to be a nickel. It's like inflation, only... backwards.

And Frasier was canceled purely because everyone involved was ready to end the show. Its ratings had nothing to do with it.

Will and Grace Fanatic · 11-26-2004, 05:11 PM

Kelsey Grammer has hinted I beleive on 2 different shows about trying to get NBC to renew it for a 12th season. But nothing happened.

ljonesxoxo · 11-26-2004, 06:46 PM

i'll cry when/if it gets cancelled. haha.

Will and Grace Fanatic · 11-27-2004, 01:50 AM

I really do think it should end anyways. Although I love the show ever since about the 5th season the really great storylines faded away. Yes, they had some great storylines beyond the 5th season but not as many before that. At least if they end this season they will kind of end on top. If they go on another season I see the ratings declining to 9 million around there which isn't good. Let's not have a Drew Carey show disaster.

Maybe, if we are lucky then we'll get the Jack show and the Karen show.

adrian@Germany · 11-28-2004, 08:40 AM

I don't think it get's cancelled. I think they will do one ore two more years. Will & Grace is NBC's best- rated sitcom at the moment, right?

slackermonkey · 11-28-2004, 07:23 PM

Joey is slightly higher-rated in season-to-date ratings, but W&G is very, very close behind.

NASHMAN · 12-06-2004, 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by Will and Grace Fanatic
I really do think it should end anyways. Although I love the show ever since about the 5th season the really great storylines faded away. Yes, they had some great storylines beyond the 5th season but not as many before that. At least if they end this season they will kind of end on top. If they go on another season I see the ratings declining to 9 million around there which isn't good. Let's not have a Drew Carey show disaster.

Maybe, if we are lucky then we'll get the Jack show and the Karen show.

Well as I can see currently, the ratings for the show itself are doing lower than expected. My guess is if the whole cast does resign, then the whole cast won't really get paid alot of money. But it all depends on what is happening right now.

slackermonkey · 12-06-2004, 05:49 PM

The ratings are lower because NBC is lower this year. All of its shows are performing poorly compared to CBS.

Any bad ratings are a reflection of the network, not the shows (well, except in the cases of Father of the Pride and Hawaii...)

11-19-2004, 02:59 PM	#1
mouse28 Member First Time Poster Join Date: Nov 19, 2004 Location: Midwest Posts: 1	Does it seem to anyone else that they're TRYING to get cancelled? I have been a fan forever--but I have to say that in the last few episodes--they seem to be pushing the envelope--in direct defiance to the people who voted down "gay marriage" (not that I personally blame the writers or actors). I find all of it really funny--some of it even slightly veiled, but I am really afraid they're going to get cancelled. (but then I came here and read that this MAY be the final season anyway...so maybe they're all just figuring, "What the hell...may as well go out with a bang.")

11-20-2004, 06:03 PM	#3
dynoguy88 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 01, 2000 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 3,674	reply mouse28, I am here to tell you - DON'T LISTEN TO JD2635. This poster has been annoying everyone on this forum for quite some time now because they think the show is ending this year even though there has been no articles written about it, no cast members mentioning it, nothing, nadda, zilch. It has gotten to the point now where it seems he/she is doing it on purpose. Probably just to drive us crazy. And for some reason, JD2635 keeps constantly mentioning the end of "That 70's show," as if it has anything to do with Will & Grace, WHICH IT DOESN'T!!!! While most here are actually dissapointed with how the episodes have been so far this season and last, there has been no word what-so-ever from any source that the show is ending this season. So do what the rest of us are doing, wait and see. JD2635 is like a broken record player that will continue to post the same annoying, obnoxious things until you want to just go bang your head against the wall. Pay no attention to her/him.

11-25-2004, 01:36 AM	#5
Will and Grace Fanatic be happy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 15, 2002 Location: seattle, washington Posts: 2,746	When people came on here and kept saying that Will and Grace was going to end this season I wasn't so sure. Because NBC is in a ratings rut this season with Friends and Frasier off the air. But the ratings Will and Grace are having only shows more proof that NBC will want to end the show. So sorry to say I think it will end. I don't know why the ratings are going down so much. It may be that the show is becoming to controvesial with Will having a boyfriend and all. But I don't think they are trying to cancel it. They may have thought a boyfriend would be good for the show but maybe that is what is taking viewers away.
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11-25-2004, 02:33 AM	#6
slackermonkey the big yellow joint Senior Member Join Date: Oct 05, 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 1,779	But the ratings aren't doing that bad. NBC has really been slipping this season, but by their standards Will & Grace is doing fine. For example, WB's shows are doing horrible compared to other networks, but for the WB, some of them are hits because they're judged by WB as a network.
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11-26-2004, 06:46 PM	#10
ljonesxoxo Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 30, 2003 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 286	i'll cry when/if it gets cancelled. haha.
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11-21-2004, 01:09 AM	#4
Janet McFarland Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 09, 2004 Posts: 4,344	I agree with dynoguy88! And I personally think the best episode of this season was 'Saving Grace Pt. 1'

11-25-2004, 07:46 PM	#7
Will and Grace Fanatic be happy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 15, 2002 Location: seattle, washington Posts: 2,746	Yes, the ratings aren't that bad, but with the show bringing in only 11.9 million viewers for one of there episodes that is not good. Frasier had ratings that went that low last season and that is one of the reasons it wasn't renewed for a 12th season. will and Grace really hasn't had ratings this low since the first season. They average 11.9 viewers in there 1st season. It just doesn't look good for a show that at one time got 27 million viewers for a 100th episode.

11-26-2004, 12:09 AM	#8
slackermonkey the big yellow joint Senior Member Join Date: Oct 05, 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 1,779	The television landscape is different than it was when Will & Grace was in its first season, thanks to cable and other entertainment venues. It's like saying comic books are outrageously priced today because they used to be a nickel. It's like inflation, only... backwards. And Frasier was canceled purely because everyone involved was ready to end the show. Its ratings had nothing to do with it.

11-26-2004, 05:11 PM	#9
Will and Grace Fanatic be happy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 15, 2002 Location: seattle, washington Posts: 2,746	Kelsey Grammer has hinted I beleive on 2 different shows about trying to get NBC to renew it for a 12th season. But nothing happened.

11-27-2004, 01:50 AM	#11
Will and Grace Fanatic be happy Senior Member Join Date: Feb 15, 2002 Location: seattle, washington Posts: 2,746	I really do think it should end anyways. Although I love the show ever since about the 5th season the really great storylines faded away. Yes, they had some great storylines beyond the 5th season but not as many before that. At least if they end this season they will kind of end on top. If they go on another season I see the ratings declining to 9 million around there which isn't good. Let's not have a Drew Carey show disaster. Maybe, if we are lucky then we'll get the Jack show and the Karen show.

11-28-2004, 08:40 AM	#12
adrian@Germany Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Oct 27, 2003 Location: Germany, Europe Posts: 57	I don't think it get's cancelled. I think they will do one ore two more years. Will & Grace is NBC's best- rated sitcom at the moment, right?
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11-28-2004, 07:23 PM	#13
slackermonkey the big yellow joint Senior Member Join Date: Oct 05, 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 1,779	Joey is slightly higher-rated in season-to-date ratings, but W&G is very, very close behind.

12-06-2004, 05:49 PM	#15
slackermonkey the big yellow joint Senior Member Join Date: Oct 05, 2004 Location: Earth Posts: 1,779	The ratings are lower because NBC is lower this year. All of its shows are performing poorly compared to CBS. Any bad ratings are a reflection of the network, not the shows (well, except in the cases of Father of the Pride and Hawaii...)