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HaskellGirl · 11-09-2004, 10:52 PM

What did everyone think of this episode? I thought it was really good, very funny, but also showed us the other side of Eddie...kinda interesting that Beaver was the one to see it. Beaver and Eddie had several bonding moments throughout the show, which is really nice. But its fun seeing them fight too. Beaver really begins to hold his own against Eddie and Lumpy!! I guess having a big brother trains you to stick up for yourself!

SDGirl90 · 11-09-2004, 11:06 PM

Yes I really like this one! It is interesting that as the series goes on they seem to make Eddie a lot more "sensitive."

SDGirl90 · 11-09-2004, 11:24 PM

I also wonder how could Eddie have stayed the night without having a suitcase or anything with him.

1954Boomer · 11-10-2004, 09:37 AM

I liked this episode also. I especially liked seeing the "softer side of Eddie" toward the end of the episode. The one thing that didn't make much sense, though, was when Eddie didn't put up much resistance to Wally asking him to leave. I mean if Eddie was SO SCARED to be left home alone by himself, why would he leave without a much of a fuss?

Kitt · 11-10-2004, 10:16 AM

All in all, it's an interesting episode with some twists and turns and some heart warming moments. An element that I don't like about, though, is that Eddie really gets trashed in this episode, beyond the usual LITB 'Eddie is a wiseguy' trashing.

Eddie is afraid to be alone.
Eddie is afraid to stand up to Wally.
Eddie is such a looser that he can never even beat Wally in a measly game of Chess!
Wally is a welcome and delightful overnight guest at Eddie's house, but heaven forbid that Eddie could get through a night, without him causing some major conflict, at Wally's house.

June and Ward converse casually downstairs, speaking cynically behind Eddie's back. June shows the snobbery that some of you mentioned from another episode. I disagreed with the snobbery case against June in that other episode, but I saw it in this one. Part of that was due to June's pride in her own son, but she really trashes Eddie in this episode. Especially with what she says about him to Ward when she makes comparisons between Eddie and Wally. Also her comments about Eddie's parents were none too flattering.

duluthduke · 11-10-2004, 11:40 AM

And it is so inconsistent too in that they show Eddie as having another father. I believe "Frank Haskell" was the third he had on the show.

Kitt · 11-10-2004, 11:51 AM

Playing the part of Eddie's father on LITB wasn't very steady work.

HaskellGirl · 11-10-2004, 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by Kitt
All in all, it's an interesting episode with some twists and turns and some heart warming moments. An element that I don't like about, though, is that Eddie really gets trashed in this episode, beyond the usual LITB 'Eddie is a wiseguy' trashing.

Eddie is afraid to be alone.
Eddie is afraid to stand up to Wally.
Eddie is such a looser that he can never even beat Wally in a measly game of Chess!
Wally is a welcome and delightful overnight guest at Eddie's house, but heaven forbid that Eddie could get through a night, without him causing some major conflict, at Wally's house.

June and Ward converse casually downstairs, speaking cynically behind Eddie's back. June shows the snobbery that some of you mentioned from another episode. I disagreed with the snobbery case against June in that other episode, but I saw it in this one. Part of that was due to June's pride in her own son, but she really trashes Eddie in this episode. Especially with what she says about him to Ward when she makes comparisons between Eddie and Wally. Also her comments about Eddie's parents were none too flattering.

Those are interesting points, Kitt!! The writers didn't give Eddie any breaks, did they? There's one episode that I like for the reason that they finally say something good about Eddie...its the one where Wally refuses to dress up as a girl for a play, so Eddie does it instead and is such a big hit. In the end, Wally realizes that if he were a bit more like Eddie in that sense (being more playful and outgoing, I guess?), it would be a good thing.

Usually they do end up making Eddie more a pitiful character in the later episodes. I think that's too bad.

garrettschickens · 11-11-2004, 10:31 PM

do you think the way he acts comes from being an only child? I am assuming he was, never really saw much of his family. Surprised me that Eddie really did do the dishes with the Beav and Wally. Loved that episode!

OH Nuts! · 01-07-2012, 05:34 PM

I know this is an OLD thread, but this ep just came on Antenna TV a few days ago. (Mods or Janice: not sure of protocol here, should I just restart thread if one is really old like this one or add on to the old one?)Eddie is at his weasly best in this ep. What I also really liked about it was you actually got to see Eddie being NICE (yes, nice) for a bit at the end of the ep. You really get to see Eddie's vulnerability at that, at the bottom of his wise-ass phony and unctuous personna, he really has a poor image of himself.) Anyone else see this recently & have some thoughts on this ep?

tdr · 01-16-2012, 07:27 PM

I will agree with you (the poster who bumped this old thread

). I can think of 6 episodes in which we see Eddie doing a nice guy act, and in 5 of these he has to confront his own insecurities and "undo" something dishonest he has done. Besides "Eddie Spends the Night," these are: "Eddie's Girl," in the first (maybe second) season, where he boasts about his "girlfriend," and tries to get Wally to ask her to go to a dance with Eddie, but she naturally thinks it's Wally who wants to take her. So Eddie does the mad act, accusing Wally of stealing 'his' girl; but in the end he pretends illness and asks Wally to take her to the dance, as if it's a favor. You have to assume this means Eddie acknowledged he was just playing the bigshot claiming she was his girlfriend. And then in the final season-- surprise-- it's another of Eddie accusing Wally of stealing his girl. But this time she really is Eddie's girl-- in some sense, at least-- for the accusations arose by Eddie finding out Wally was going to her house, but he was doing so to be a model to help her knit a sweater for Eddie's birthday. This is the ep where Eddie actually hits Wally in his indignation, and Wally does not retaliate because Eddie misunderstands the circumstances, and Wally is thought to be afraid of Eddie. So the girl, to clear it all up, gives Eddie his present early, and Eddie knows he must apologize to Wally.

The other eps, in less detail, would be the ice cream plant job, where Eddie 'butters up' the foreman, who is using Eddie in a theft scheme; and the credit card ep, where Wally reimburses Eddie for a car battery Eddie bought for him on a credit card Eddie's father allowed him to get, and Eddie buys a loud vest (!) with the money instead of giving it to his father. In both these cases Eddie also acknowledges how stupid or negligent he was being the bigshot. The one where Eddie does something 'nice' and doesn't seem to be trying to make up for a worse wrong is when he catches Beaver trying to paint Wally's suit that he accidently damaged with oil and bleach. Instead, Eddie just tells him "So I did it-- so I expect you to do something for me some time."

OH Nuts! · 01-20-2012, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdr

I will agree with you (the poster who bumped this old thread

). I can think of 6 episodes in which we see Eddie doing a nice guy act, and in 5 of these he has to confront his own insecurities and "undo" something dishonest he has done. Besides "Eddie Spends the Night," these are: "Eddie's Girl," in the first (maybe second) season, where he boasts about his "girlfriend," and tries to get Wally to ask her to go to a dance with Eddie, but she naturally thinks it's Wally who wants to take her. So Eddie does the mad act, accusing Wally of stealing 'his' girl; but in the end he pretends illness and asks Wally to take her to the dance, as if it's a favor. You have to assume this means Eddie acknowledged he was just playing the bigshot claiming she was his girlfriend. And then in the final season-- surprise-- it's another of Eddie accusing Wally of stealing his girl. But this time she really is Eddie's girl-- in some sense, at least-- for the accusations arose by Eddie finding out Wally was going to her house, but he was doing so to be a model to help her knit a sweater for Eddie's birthday. This is the ep where Eddie actually hits Wally in his indignation, and Wally does not retaliate because Eddie misunderstands the circumstances, and Wally is thought to be afraid of Eddie. So the girl, to clear it all up, gives Eddie his present early, and Eddie knows he must apologize to Wally.

The other eps, in less detail, would be the ice cream plant job, where Eddie 'butters up' the foreman, who is using Eddie in a theft scheme; and the credit card ep, where Wally reimburses Eddie for a car battery Eddie bought for him on a credit card Eddie's father allowed him to get, and Eddie buys a loud vest (!) with the money instead of giving it to his father. In both these cases Eddie also acknowledges how stupid or negligent he was being the bigshot. The one where Eddie does something 'nice' and doesn't seem to be trying to make up for a worse wrong is when he catches Beaver trying to paint Wally's suit that he accidently damaged with oil and bleach. Instead, Eddie just tells him "So I did it-- so I expect you to do something for me some time."

WOW! I'll have to keep my eye out for these eps on Antenna TV. They s/b coming up soon - think the show is 2/3 through its cycle. While I always liked LITB I wasn't in LOVE with it - I' didn't think I'd enjoy it as much as I am - but I really AM.

That Eddie boy - what a character - and I do mean character!

Mr B · 01-27-2012, 08:22 PM

Eddie's three fathers? In the writers defense.....Even in March "61 in their wildest dreams......Who would be analyzing and dissecting their work 51 years in the future!!!!

tjays · 01-28-2012, 10:40 PM

I really liked that episode. Yes Eddie was a jerk but there were a couple of times I felt sorry for him. This was one of them. While I understand Eddie was being being "Eddie" in this episode I thought Wally overreacted a bit.

magellan333 · 01-29-2012, 02:06 PM

I have been revisiting this show as of late, the entire series a gift to myself for Christmas, and have noticed a few times Eddie showed through as a decent guy. One is where he and Wally had a falling out and he realized the error of his ways and discusses this with Beaver as they pull bugs off a bush. The episode closed with this, so we are safe to assume Eddie made good on his realization and he and Wally were friends again. Another time was when Eddie was caught cheating on a test and went as far as to blame Wally for it. This was one of Eddie's most despicable moments, but in the same episode shows signs of redemption as he has taken to Wally's example and studied the material for the next class. I always admired the friendship between Eddie and Wally. Wally was certainly capable of keeping much better company, but seemed to feel pity for Eddie and knew he needed a friend. Despite his conniving ways it was obvious that Eddie was appreciative of Wally's friendship. Eddie was always seeking out Wally to spend time with, I don't recall a time when Wally first visited Eddie's home or called him with an invite to go someplace.

11-09-2004, 10:52 PM	#1
HaskellGirl Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 15, 2002 Posts: 590	Eddie Spends the Night What did everyone think of this episode? I thought it was really good, very funny, but also showed us the other side of Eddie...kinda interesting that Beaver was the one to see it. Beaver and Eddie had several bonding moments throughout the show, which is really nice. But its fun seeing them fight too. Beaver really begins to hold his own against Eddie and Lumpy!! I guess having a big brother trains you to stick up for yourself!

11-11-2004, 10:31 PM	#9
garrettschickens Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Oct 31, 2004 Location: arkansas Posts: 6	Eddie really isn't all that bad... do you think the way he acts comes from being an only child? I am assuming he was, never really saw much of his family. Surprised me that Eddie really did do the dishes with the Beav and Wally. Loved that episode!

01-29-2012, 02:06 PM	#15
magellan333 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jun 26, 2003 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 822	Eddie's Human Side I have been revisiting this show as of late, the entire series a gift to myself for Christmas, and have noticed a few times Eddie showed through as a decent guy. One is where he and Wally had a falling out and he realized the error of his ways and discusses this with Beaver as they pull bugs off a bush. The episode closed with this, so we are safe to assume Eddie made good on his realization and he and Wally were friends again. Another time was when Eddie was caught cheating on a test and went as far as to blame Wally for it. This was one of Eddie's most despicable moments, but in the same episode shows signs of redemption as he has taken to Wally's example and studied the material for the next class. I always admired the friendship between Eddie and Wally. Wally was certainly capable of keeping much better company, but seemed to feel pity for Eddie and knew he needed a friend. Despite his conniving ways it was obvious that Eddie was appreciative of Wally's friendship. Eddie was always seeking out Wally to spend time with, I don't recall a time when Wally first visited Eddie's home or called him with an invite to go someplace.

11-09-2004, 11:06 PM	#2
SDGirl90 Banned Banned!! Frequent Poster Join Date: Oct 18, 2004 Location: South Dakota Posts: 194	Yes I really like this one! It is interesting that as the series goes on they seem to make Eddie a lot more "sensitive."

11-09-2004, 11:24 PM	#3
SDGirl90 Banned Banned!! Frequent Poster Join Date: Oct 18, 2004 Location: South Dakota Posts: 194	I also wonder how could Eddie have stayed the night without having a suitcase or anything with him.

11-10-2004, 09:37 AM	#4
1954Boomer Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 18, 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 482	I liked this episode also. I especially liked seeing the "softer side of Eddie" toward the end of the episode. The one thing that didn't make much sense, though, was when Eddie didn't put up much resistance to Wally asking him to leave. I mean if Eddie was SO SCARED to be left home alone by himself, why would he leave without a much of a fuss?

11-10-2004, 10:16 AM	#5
Kitt James Dean Forum Veteran Join Date: Aug 16, 2001 Location: California Dreamin' Posts: 6,115	All in all, it's an interesting episode with some twists and turns and some heart warming moments. An element that I don't like about, though, is that Eddie really gets trashed in this episode, beyond the usual LITB 'Eddie is a wiseguy' trashing. Eddie is afraid to be alone. Eddie is afraid to stand up to Wally. Eddie is such a looser that he can never even beat Wally in a measly game of Chess! Wally is a welcome and delightful overnight guest at Eddie's house, but heaven forbid that Eddie could get through a night, without him causing some major conflict, at Wally's house. June and Ward converse casually downstairs, speaking cynically behind Eddie's back. June shows the snobbery that some of you mentioned from another episode. I disagreed with the snobbery case against June in that other episode, but I saw it in this one. Part of that was due to June's pride in her own son, but she really trashes Eddie in this episode. Especially with what she says about him to Ward when she makes comparisons between Eddie and Wally. Also her comments about Eddie's parents were none too flattering.

11-10-2004, 11:40 AM	#6
duluthduke Banned Banned!! Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 27, 2003 Location: MN Posts: 209	And it is so inconsistent too in that they show Eddie as having another father. I believe "Frank Haskell" was the third he had on the show.

11-10-2004, 11:51 AM	#7
Kitt James Dean Forum Veteran Join Date: Aug 16, 2001 Location: California Dreamin' Posts: 6,115	Playing the part of Eddie's father on LITB wasn't very steady work.

01-07-2012, 05:34 PM	#10
OH Nuts! Member Forum King Join Date: Feb 15, 2005 Posts: 133,383	I know this is an OLD thread, but this ep just came on Antenna TV a few days ago. (Mods or Janice: not sure of protocol here, should I just restart thread if one is really old like this one or add on to the old one?)Eddie is at his weasly best in this ep. What I also really liked about it was you actually got to see Eddie being NICE (yes, nice) for a bit at the end of the ep. You really get to see Eddie's vulnerability at that, at the bottom of his wise-ass phony and unctuous personna, he really has a poor image of himself.) Anyone else see this recently & have some thoughts on this ep?

01-16-2012, 07:27 PM	#11
tdr Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 23, 2001 Posts: 1,454	I will agree with you (the poster who bumped this old thread ). I can think of 6 episodes in which we see Eddie doing a nice guy act, and in 5 of these he has to confront his own insecurities and "undo" something dishonest he has done. Besides "Eddie Spends the Night," these are: "Eddie's Girl," in the first (maybe second) season, where he boasts about his "girlfriend," and tries to get Wally to ask her to go to a dance with Eddie, but she naturally thinks it's Wally who wants to take her. So Eddie does the mad act, accusing Wally of stealing 'his' girl; but in the end he pretends illness and asks Wally to take her to the dance, as if it's a favor. You have to assume this means Eddie acknowledged he was just playing the bigshot claiming she was his girlfriend. And then in the final season-- surprise-- it's another of Eddie accusing Wally of stealing his girl. But this time she really is Eddie's girl-- in some sense, at least-- for the accusations arose by Eddie finding out Wally was going to her house, but he was doing so to be a model to help her knit a sweater for Eddie's birthday. This is the ep where Eddie actually hits Wally in his indignation, and Wally does not retaliate because Eddie misunderstands the circumstances, and Wally is thought to be afraid of Eddie. So the girl, to clear it all up, gives Eddie his present early, and Eddie knows he must apologize to Wally. The other eps, in less detail, would be the ice cream plant job, where Eddie 'butters up' the foreman, who is using Eddie in a theft scheme; and the credit card ep, where Wally reimburses Eddie for a car battery Eddie bought for him on a credit card Eddie's father allowed him to get, and Eddie buys a loud vest (!) with the money instead of giving it to his father. In both these cases Eddie also acknowledges how stupid or negligent he was being the bigshot. The one where Eddie does something 'nice' and doesn't seem to be trying to make up for a worse wrong is when he catches Beaver trying to paint Wally's suit that he accidently damaged with oil and bleach. Instead, Eddie just tells him "So I did it-- so I expect you to do something for me some time."

01-27-2012, 08:22 PM	#13
Mr B Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 13, 2002 Posts: 136	Eddie's three fathers? In the writers defense.....Even in March "61 in their wildest dreams......Who would be analyzing and dissecting their work 51 years in the future!!!!

01-28-2012, 10:40 PM	#14
tjays Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jan 24, 2010 Location: (U.S.) Indiana Posts: 37	I really liked that episode. Yes Eddie was a jerk but there were a couple of times I felt sorry for him. This was one of them. While I understand Eddie was being being "Eddie" in this episode I thought Wally overreacted a bit.