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Dr. Jazz · 10-05-2004, 12:42 PM

From eonline.com:

Rocket Man Disses Material Girl

by Sarah Hall

Elton John seems to think it's gonna be a long, long time before he attends another Madonna concert.

The Rocket Man voiced his negative opinion of the Material Girl during the British Q Awards in London Monday, where he was accepting a songwriting award and she was nominated for Best Live Act.

"Anyone who lip-synchs in public on stage when you pay 75 pounds ($134) to see them should be shot," John griped from the stage in reference to Madonna's recent re-Invention Tour.

"Madonna, best [expletive deleted] live act? [Expletive deleted] off," the singer said before an audience of about 400. "Since when has lip-synching been live?"

"That's me off her [expletive deleted] Christmas card list but do I give a toss? No."

John was likely gratified that Madonna wound up losing the category to British rockers, Muse.

The outburst inspired a rapid response from Madonna, through her spokeswoman, Liz Rosenberg.

"Madonna does not lip-synch nor does she spend her time trashing other artists," Rosenberg said in a statement.

"She sang every note on her re-Invention Tour live and is not ashamed that she was well paid for her hard work."

Rosenberg also indicated that the "Like a Virgin" singer wasn't taking John's jabs too seriously.

"Elton John remains on her Christmas card list whether he is nice ... or naughty," she said.

No word as to whether he still rates a place on the Kabbalah holiday card list.

John's anti-Madonna statements mark his second public meltdown in recent weeks.

Last month, he exploded at paparazzi who mobbed him in a Taiwan airport before a performance in Taipei, calling them "rude, vile pigs."

The exchange was captured live by a Taiwanese cable channel and showed an outraged John clearing customs with his teeth clenched, muttering expletives. At his concert later, he told the audience that he meant every word he said and that the airport shutterbugs were the rudest people he had encountered anywhere in the world.

The volatile performer's new album, Peachtree Road, is slated for a November release and he resumes his Vegas show, Elton John: The Red Piano, this month at the Colosseum at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas.

Kay Scarpetta · 10-05-2004, 02:59 PM

A tad bit volatile, are we?

Dean Winchester · 10-05-2004, 03:19 PM

Elton's been bashing Madonna for years, what's new?

Jrnygrl · 10-05-2004, 05:20 PM

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Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
Elton's been bashing Madonna for years, what's new?

Exactly!!!!!

Old news! Been there done that!

Nighthawk76 · 10-05-2004, 07:06 PM

I know my response to this will cause a bit of a stir, so I will apolagize to all Madonna fans up front and remind you all that this is just my opinion. I think that Elton was in his proper place to "diss" Madonna. I like Madonna, I think some of her early albums were quite good, but she is really cut from the same cloth as your Britneys and you Christinas. Madonna has always been more about appearence then about music. When people see Madonna live they are going to see a fashion show, not a great musician. Now, Elton is a great musician, I think that he is in his place to belittle artists that lip synch. When a fan pays the sort of money that Madonna is asking for her concerts they dererve a real live show, not someone simply mouthing the words along to a recorded track being played over the PA. Madonna has always been more known for her image then her music.

USTVFanFromUK · 10-05-2004, 07:13 PM

How many times is he gonna diss her? Elton's one old queen. Probably jealous that Madonna got major buzz when her tour hit here whereas his got very little. This is the same Elton who called Madonna a no talent a few years back and then went on to work with her longtime producer Pat Leonard

. Elton's probably doing it for publicity i.e. his rants in Asia a few weeks back.... he has a new album coming out soon too. Liz Rosenberg's (Madonna's spokesperson) response was classic though.

Liz: Madonna doesn't spend her time trashing other artists.

Rosenberg added: "Elton John remains on her Christmas card list where he is nice.... or naughty."

This is the same Elton John that dueted with boyband Blue last year...... who mime and are as talented as cheese melting

USTVFanFromUK · 10-05-2004, 07:16 PM

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Originally posted by dukey
I know my response to this will cause a bit of a stir, so I will apolagize to all Madonna fans up front and remind you all that this is just my opinion. I think that Elton was in his proper place to "diss" Madonna. I like Madonna, I think some of her early albums were quite good, but she is really cut from the same cloth as your Britneys and you Christinas. Madonna has always been more about appearence then about music. When people see Madonna live they are going to see a fashion show, not a great musician. Now, Elton is a great musician, I think that he is in his place to belittle artists that lip synch. When a fan pays the sort of money that Madonna is asking for her concerts they dererve a real live show, not someone simply mouthing the words along to a recorded track being played over the PA. Madonna has always been more known for her image then her music.

I went to her concert this pass summer and she didn't lip anything. Sure some vocoders were added and I'm sure some parts were pre-recorded but she did sing and you could tell.

Steve M. · 10-05-2004, 09:09 PM

THANK YOU, ELTON! THANK YOU SO MUCH!

(Madonna is one of only two acts Elton John publicly criticized - the other was the Archies!

)

Steve M. · 10-05-2004, 09:15 PM

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Originally posted by Dr. Jazz
The outburst inspired a rapid response from Madonna, through her spokeswoman, Liz Rosenberg.

"Madonna does not lip-synch nor does she spend her time trashing other artists," Rosenberg said in a statement.

"She sang every note on her re-Invention Tour live and is not ashamed that she was well paid for her hard work."

Rosenberg also indicated that the "Like a Virgin" singer wasn't taking John's jabs too seriously.

Both Madge and her spokesbitch should shut the

up and let Elton have his say. Last time I checked, Britain is a free country too! Why do Madge and her fans insist on ridiculing anyone who dislikes her? She's worse than George W. Bush!

Dean Winchester · 10-05-2004, 09:50 PM

I think the only reason people are attacking Elton is because of some of the "talent" he's worked with before. He questions Madonna's singing skills, yet he's sung with Paula Abdul and Janet Jackson, and he is all anti-fluff music, yet he's done songs with boybands. It just is very inconsistant, it looks silly for him to trash Madonna when he's sung with Paula and Janet, neither of which are known for their vocal pipes either.

Nighthawk76 · 10-05-2004, 10:57 PM

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Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
I think the only reason people are attacking Elton is because of some of the "talent" he's worked with before. He questions Madonna's singing skills, yet he's sung with Paula Abdul and Janet Jackson, and he is all anti-fluff music, yet he's done songs with boybands. It just is very inconsistant, it looks silly for him to trash Madonna when he's sung with Paula and Janet, neither of which are known for their vocal pipes either.

That is an intersting point. But it should be remembered that the Elton John of 2004 is not the same Elton John of 1974 when he was turning out his best work with albums like Goodbye Yellow Brick Road and Captain Fantastic & The Brown Dirt Cowboy. IMO Elton has not had a good album since The One in 1992. However, overall he rightfully regards himself as a more serious performer then Madonna.

Steve M. · 10-05-2004, 11:15 PM

Bear in mind that Elton has always been free of musical prejudice. He has said kind words about everyone from Neil Young to David Cassidy, from the Osmonds to the Sex Pistols, from Elvis Costello to Rick Astley. (And his opening act on his 1972 U.S. tour was Family!

) So if he despises someone for lacking musical talent, that artiste would have to be pretty bad!!

Think about it.

So let's see. . . . First he knocked the Archies, then. . . who was next?

vashti1999 · 10-05-2004, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve M.
So if he despises someone for lacking musical talent, that artiste would have to be pretty bad!!

Think about it.

So let's see. . . . First he knocked the Archies, then. . . who was next?

Seems like Elton was simply more upset about Madonna being nominated for a best live act award, lip-syncing and charging high-priced tickets than "despising" her for "lacking musical talent."

MandieR1980 · 10-06-2004, 12:19 AM

Elton rules! I haven't liked Madonna since the 80's early 90's

Dean Winchester · 10-06-2004, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve M.
Bear in mind that Elton has always been free of musical prejudice. He has said kind words about everyone from Neil Young to David Cassidy, from the Osmonds to the Sex Pistols, from Elvis Costello to Rick Astley. (And his opening act on his 1972 U.S. tour was Family! ) So if he despises someone for lacking musical talent, that artiste would have to be pretty bad!!

I know you dislike Madonna, but come on, that is some pretty deep hatred if you honestly think Paula Abdul has more musical talent.

10-05-2004, 12:42 PM	#1
Dr. Jazz The Evil Empire. . . . Forum Star Join Date: Jun 06, 2003 Posts: 11,107	Elton John Disses Madonna From eonline.com: Rocket Man Disses Material Girl by Sarah Hall Elton John seems to think it's gonna be a long, long time before he attends another Madonna concert. The Rocket Man voiced his negative opinion of the Material Girl during the British Q Awards in London Monday, where he was accepting a songwriting award and she was nominated for Best Live Act. "Anyone who lip-synchs in public on stage when you pay 75 pounds ($134) to see them should be shot," John griped from the stage in reference to Madonna's recent re-Invention Tour. "Madonna, best [expletive deleted] live act? [Expletive deleted] off," the singer said before an audience of about 400. "Since when has lip-synching been live?" "That's me off her [expletive deleted] Christmas card list but do I give a toss? No." John was likely gratified that Madonna wound up losing the category to British rockers, Muse. The outburst inspired a rapid response from Madonna, through her spokeswoman, Liz Rosenberg. "Madonna does not lip-synch nor does she spend her time trashing other artists," Rosenberg said in a statement. "She sang every note on her re-Invention Tour live and is not ashamed that she was well paid for her hard work." Rosenberg also indicated that the "Like a Virgin" singer wasn't taking John's jabs too seriously. "Elton John remains on her Christmas card list whether he is nice ... or naughty," she said. No word as to whether he still rates a place on the Kabbalah holiday card list. John's anti-Madonna statements mark his second public meltdown in recent weeks. Last month, he exploded at paparazzi who mobbed him in a Taiwan airport before a performance in Taipei, calling them "rude, vile pigs." The exchange was captured live by a Taiwanese cable channel and showed an outraged John clearing customs with his teeth clenched, muttering expletives. At his concert later, he told the audience that he meant every word he said and that the airport shutterbugs were the rudest people he had encountered anywhere in the world. The volatile performer's new album, Peachtree Road, is slated for a November release and he resumes his Vegas show, Elton John: The Red Piano, this month at the Colosseum at Caesar's Palace in Las Vegas.

10-05-2004, 02:59 PM	#2
Kay Scarpetta Defy Gravity 8.26.05 Forum Superstar Join Date: Jul 04, 2001 Location: La Vie Boheme Posts: 28,013	A tad bit volatile, are we?
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10-05-2004, 09:09 PM	#8
Steve M. Back on the road to reality Forum Superstar Join Date: Nov 07, 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 33,307	THANK YOU, ELTON! THANK YOU SO MUCH! (Madonna is one of only two acts Elton John publicly criticized - the other was the Archies! )
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10-06-2004, 12:19 AM	#14
MandieR1980 Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 03, 2001 Location: East Taunton, Massachusetts Posts: 2,635	Elton rules! I haven't liked Madonna since the 80's early 90's
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10-05-2004, 03:19 PM	#3
Dean Winchester Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 28, 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 14,803	Elton's been bashing Madonna for years, what's new?

10-05-2004, 07:06 PM	#5
Nighthawk76 Rachel Berry Forum Celebrity Join Date: Feb 28, 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 23,254	I know my response to this will cause a bit of a stir, so I will apolagize to all Madonna fans up front and remind you all that this is just my opinion. I think that Elton was in his proper place to "diss" Madonna. I like Madonna, I think some of her early albums were quite good, but she is really cut from the same cloth as your Britneys and you Christinas. Madonna has always been more about appearence then about music. When people see Madonna live they are going to see a fashion show, not a great musician. Now, Elton is a great musician, I think that he is in his place to belittle artists that lip synch. When a fan pays the sort of money that Madonna is asking for her concerts they dererve a real live show, not someone simply mouthing the words along to a recorded track being played over the PA. Madonna has always been more known for her image then her music.

10-05-2004, 07:13 PM	#6
USTVFanFromUK Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 24, 2004 Posts: 553	How many times is he gonna diss her? Elton's one old queen. Probably jealous that Madonna got major buzz when her tour hit here whereas his got very little. This is the same Elton who called Madonna a no talent a few years back and then went on to work with her longtime producer Pat Leonard . Elton's probably doing it for publicity i.e. his rants in Asia a few weeks back.... he has a new album coming out soon too. Liz Rosenberg's (Madonna's spokesperson) response was classic though. Liz: Madonna doesn't spend her time trashing other artists. Rosenberg added: "Elton John remains on her Christmas card list where he is nice.... or naughty." This is the same Elton John that dueted with boyband Blue last year...... who mime and are as talented as cheese melting

10-05-2004, 09:50 PM	#10
Dean Winchester Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 28, 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 14,803	I think the only reason people are attacking Elton is because of some of the "talent" he's worked with before. He questions Madonna's singing skills, yet he's sung with Paula Abdul and Janet Jackson, and he is all anti-fluff music, yet he's done songs with boybands. It just is very inconsistant, it looks silly for him to trash Madonna when he's sung with Paula and Janet, neither of which are known for their vocal pipes either.

10-05-2004, 11:15 PM	#12
Steve M. Back on the road to reality Forum Superstar Join Date: Nov 07, 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 33,307	Bear in mind that Elton has always been free of musical prejudice. He has said kind words about everyone from Neil Young to David Cassidy, from the Osmonds to the Sex Pistols, from Elvis Costello to Rick Astley. (And his opening act on his 1972 U.S. tour was Family! ) So if he despises someone for lacking musical talent, that artiste would have to be pretty bad!! Think about it. So let's see. . . . First he knocked the Archies, then. . . who was next?