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SJP1313 · 09-10-2004, 07:56 PM

Today, the sad story of Justin Burgwinkel aired. A young man who joined the military, and disappeared under VERY strange circumstances. NEVER to be heard from or seen again. Leaving only a movie reference as a clue. Justin reference the movie WHITE SANDS, in which a small southwestern town sheriff finds a body in the desert with a suitcase and $500,000. He impersonates the man and stumbles into an FBI investigation

Apparently Justin had been acting strange, leaving at a moments notice, skipping out on important dates, only to rush off with a brief case.

After he disappeared his parents flew to from MA to CA where his car was found at an out of the way motel near the ocean. Locked in his trunk was his brief case. Only containing his wallet, which contained his credit cards, license, military ID, and his dog tags.
His mother appeared on UM and stated that she received NO help from the military, police, or anyone else. Not even anyone he served with would help.

He had previously told his g/f that if she ever found his dog tags lying around, that meant he was dead.

Im hoping some others saw this story or remember it from a previous airing. Ive searched and cant seem to find any information anywhere OTHER than on a website called burgwinkel.com which is a journal of a man named Joe Burgwinkel. BUT under the journal date of Novemeber 10 2003 the entry reads: paranoia big destroia- Why is the Department of Defense searching my site for the name 'justin'? Maybe they were looking for Justice, but they don't know how to spell it.

I know Im probably sounding ridiculous at this point, but does anyone else besides me think its strange that the Dept. of Defense is searching for this mans name? IN 2003!

crystaldawn · 09-10-2004, 09:53 PM

Yes, I remember that story very well! That is so interesting that the Department of Defense is searching! Another thing I find unusual is that I couldn't find anything with his name in it on the web! Its unusual that a case that isn't super old comes around where there is no information listed. You would think at least on a missing person website. Interesting.

By the way, if anyone has any better luck finding out any more on Justin Burgwinkel, please post. It would be interesting if any more is known on his mysterious disappearance.

SJP1313 · 09-10-2004, 10:49 PM

Thanks CrystalDawn for corroborating my point of interest in that the Dept of Defense is searching for him on the web in 2003. After I started that topic I felt a bit silly for a moment, that I was reading into the Dept of Defense search.

Prisoner6 · 09-29-2004, 07:59 PM

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Originally posted by SJP1313
Thanks CrystalDawn for corroborating my point of interest in that the Dept of Defense is searching for him on the web in 2003. After I started that topic I felt a bit silly for a moment, that I was reading into the Dept of Defense search.

It's not silly at all. When I saw that episode I found the info about DoD too. I even emailed Joe but got no response. Seems interesting that the sniper John Muhammad was stationed at Fort Ord and then Fort Lewis at the same times as Burgwinkel and then when info was being gathered for Muhammad's trial a search is conducted at this website. If Burgwinkel disappeared ten years ago, the Army would have that under records, right? Why search for his name?

MD

SJP1313 · 09-29-2004, 08:33 PM

Thank you! Those are my exact thoughts. They would have that information on FILE!!! Why in the world would they have to look it up!
I also emailed Joe, but got no response. If you do get a response I would be very interested in hearing what he has to say about it.
Its all very suspicious to me. Im glad you responded!

Prisoner6 · 10-01-2004, 08:13 PM

I did some more research. It seems that the ip ranges do belong to DoD, but some people have been using them for spam or spoofing. Google "room BF655A" and you'll see what I'm talking about. It's weird, several people have said they contacted the department about receiving spam or several hits per day from these number blocks and nothing has ever been done.
Regarding Joe's site, he's using Movable Type for his blog, which would account for him being targeted. My question would be: If it's someone using as a spoof, why would they use a .mil site to search for Justin Burgwinkel (maybe they saw the Unsolved Mysteries segment and were curious?)

MD

SJP1313 · 10-01-2004, 11:09 PM

WOW. Ok, how very interesting. Big brother may actually be watching. I did the search and found some very interesting stuff. From what Ive read, most ppl think that room BF655A is a spoof. But quite honestly I dont know about that. Im definatly going to continue reading everything that Ive found because I find it so interesting.

Are the specific websites listed being targeted by the Pentagon with pornographic postings? Only one was suffering from pornographic postings, whilst another suffered a security loophole exploitation. I don't know if it is the Pentagon, but it is certainly worthy of further investigation.

Is it possible that the Pentagon would do such a thing? Of course it's possible. The office in question is the Defense Information Systems Agency, but also listed under the IP lookup is the Defense Logistics Agency Special Studies Office. Maybe this is considered a "special study?"

As I was reading I came across one article of interest that makes some very good points. How and why would the military let someone spoof their name? Why would people want to be involved in spoofing the identity of a government office such as Room BF655A, it would be a pretty brainless thing to do. The military would obviously have offices which look at what information is available in the public domain - you would expect them to be on the look-out for any type of a breach of security.

This is just some of the info I came across. very ineteresting to say the least.

Please keep me updated... Ill do the same. Im off to read some more info on this!

Thanks again
SJP

Galahad · 01-24-2006, 03:41 PM

So I just saw the episode on Lifetime in a rerun today. It sparked my interest as well. There dosen't appear to be any new information on the internet. Has anyone else had any luck finding anything?

crystaldawn · 01-24-2006, 03:50 PM

I couldn't find anything on the net either. I did talk with someone several months ago who knew Justin and had attended basic training with him. If I remember correctly he said he had been in contact with Justin's parents and he was still missing.

Galahad · 01-24-2006, 03:56 PM

How can there be websites online about someone's military record from the civil war and potentially earlier, but no information about one soldier who was either mentally unstable or a part of some sort of secretive organization (weather it be military, criminal, governmental, etc)?

mrsmichelleevans · 01-24-2006, 06:12 PM

i saw this episode today and could not find any info on this in our local news databanks (i live in santa cruz.. right between santa clara and Fort ord... nothing...

Tony Ballesteros · 01-24-2006, 06:46 PM

i wonder why the mission is off? hmmmm

boco357 · 01-24-2006, 07:44 PM

Burgwinkel's actor was magical in the reenactment.

kadrmas15 · 11-03-2006, 06:02 PM

Well I have watched this case and I dont know what to make of it. Honestly it reeks of yet another coverup by the government. I think American's like to think our government tells us everything but this is kind of the opposite of how it actually is. I think Justin was involved in some stuff and I think the pressure of it right was getting to him, hence the time when his girlfriend found him sobbing in a room and stuff. I also find that fishy how a guy that is missing has absouletely zero websites on him. I think all of this is just very strange. But there is more to this story. I dont think it was just Justin having problems. I think he may have had emotional issues but I think they were caused by whatever he was involved in it that was just too much for him. Clearly Justin was afraid of someone or something considering he bought two pistols. This is such a strange case. Anyone else have any thoughts?

crystaldawn · 11-06-2006, 05:21 PM

I think it is possible that Justin disappeared initially on his own. It did seem like he was involved in something thus the phone call from the unknown man saying "the mission is off" but its also possible that Justin was having some sort of mental issue that resulted in his extreme paranoia. It doesn't seem like he was taken abruptly and seemed like he disappeared on his own if he did indeed park his car there. I did mention earlier in this post that I had spoken with someone who went through basic training with Justin and said he had spoken with his parents previously and he was still missing. He also said that Justin certainly did not seem like the type to be involved in anything covert but also said that if anyone was capable of disappearing and never being found it would be him. One of the great UM's because there's no clear cut answer and it could go either way. I do hope that his parents can someday get some answers about what happened to him.

09-10-2004, 07:56 PM	#1
SJP1313 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 31, 2003 Location: NH Posts: 85	Justin Burgwinkel Today, the sad story of Justin Burgwinkel aired. A young man who joined the military, and disappeared under VERY strange circumstances. NEVER to be heard from or seen again. Leaving only a movie reference as a clue. Justin reference the movie WHITE SANDS, in which a small southwestern town sheriff finds a body in the desert with a suitcase and $500,000. He impersonates the man and stumbles into an FBI investigation Apparently Justin had been acting strange, leaving at a moments notice, skipping out on important dates, only to rush off with a brief case. After he disappeared his parents flew to from MA to CA where his car was found at an out of the way motel near the ocean. Locked in his trunk was his brief case. Only containing his wallet, which contained his credit cards, license, military ID, and his dog tags. His mother appeared on UM and stated that she received NO help from the military, police, or anyone else. Not even anyone he served with would help. He had previously told his g/f that if she ever found his dog tags lying around, that meant he was dead. Im hoping some others saw this story or remember it from a previous airing. Ive searched and cant seem to find any information anywhere OTHER than on a website called burgwinkel.com which is a journal of a man named Joe Burgwinkel. BUT under the journal date of Novemeber 10 2003 the entry reads: paranoia big destroia- Why is the Department of Defense searching my site for the name 'justin'? Maybe they were looking for Justice, but they don't know how to spell it. I know Im probably sounding ridiculous at this point, but does anyone else besides me think its strange that the Dept. of Defense is searching for this mans name? IN 2003!

01-24-2006, 07:44 PM	#13
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09-10-2004, 09:53 PM	#2
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	Yes, I remember that story very well! That is so interesting that the Department of Defense is searching! Another thing I find unusual is that I couldn't find anything with his name in it on the web! Its unusual that a case that isn't super old comes around where there is no information listed. You would think at least on a missing person website. Interesting. By the way, if anyone has any better luck finding out any more on Justin Burgwinkel, please post. It would be interesting if any more is known on his mysterious disappearance.

09-10-2004, 10:49 PM	#3
SJP1313 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 31, 2003 Location: NH Posts: 85	Thanks CrystalDawn for corroborating my point of interest in that the Dept of Defense is searching for him on the web in 2003. After I started that topic I felt a bit silly for a moment, that I was reading into the Dept of Defense search.

09-29-2004, 08:33 PM	#5
SJP1313 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 31, 2003 Location: NH Posts: 85	Thank you! Those are my exact thoughts. They would have that information on FILE!!! Why in the world would they have to look it up! I also emailed Joe, but got no response. If you do get a response I would be very interested in hearing what he has to say about it. Its all very suspicious to me. Im glad you responded!

10-01-2004, 08:13 PM	#6
Prisoner6 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 29, 2004 Posts: 5	I did some more research. It seems that the ip ranges do belong to DoD, but some people have been using them for spam or spoofing. Google "room BF655A" and you'll see what I'm talking about. It's weird, several people have said they contacted the department about receiving spam or several hits per day from these number blocks and nothing has ever been done. Regarding Joe's site, he's using Movable Type for his blog, which would account for him being targeted. My question would be: If it's someone using as a spoof, why would they use a .mil site to search for Justin Burgwinkel (maybe they saw the Unsolved Mysteries segment and were curious?) MD

10-01-2004, 11:09 PM	#7
SJP1313 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 31, 2003 Location: NH Posts: 85	WOW. Ok, how very interesting. Big brother may actually be watching. I did the search and found some very interesting stuff. From what Ive read, most ppl think that room BF655A is a spoof. But quite honestly I dont know about that. Im definatly going to continue reading everything that Ive found because I find it so interesting. Are the specific websites listed being targeted by the Pentagon with pornographic postings? Only one was suffering from pornographic postings, whilst another suffered a security loophole exploitation. I don't know if it is the Pentagon, but it is certainly worthy of further investigation. Is it possible that the Pentagon would do such a thing? Of course it's possible. The office in question is the Defense Information Systems Agency, but also listed under the IP lookup is the Defense Logistics Agency Special Studies Office. Maybe this is considered a "special study?" As I was reading I came across one article of interest that makes some very good points. How and why would the military let someone spoof their name? Why would people want to be involved in spoofing the identity of a government office such as Room BF655A, it would be a pretty brainless thing to do. The military would obviously have offices which look at what information is available in the public domain - you would expect them to be on the look-out for any type of a breach of security. This is just some of the info I came across. very ineteresting to say the least. Please keep me updated... Ill do the same. Im off to read some more info on this! Thanks again SJP

01-24-2006, 03:41 PM	#8
Galahad Member Forum Cub Join Date: Jan 24, 2006 Posts: 2	So I just saw the episode on Lifetime in a rerun today. It sparked my interest as well. There dosen't appear to be any new information on the internet. Has anyone else had any luck finding anything?

01-24-2006, 03:50 PM	#9
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	I couldn't find anything on the net either. I did talk with someone several months ago who knew Justin and had attended basic training with him. If I remember correctly he said he had been in contact with Justin's parents and he was still missing.

01-24-2006, 03:56 PM	#10
Galahad Member Forum Cub Join Date: Jan 24, 2006 Posts: 2	How can there be websites online about someone's military record from the civil war and potentially earlier, but no information about one soldier who was either mentally unstable or a part of some sort of secretive organization (weather it be military, criminal, governmental, etc)?

01-24-2006, 06:12 PM	#11
mrsmichelleevans Member First Time Poster Join Date: Jan 24, 2006 Posts: 1	i saw this episode today and could not find any info on this in our local news databanks (i live in santa cruz.. right between santa clara and Fort ord... nothing...

01-24-2006, 06:46 PM	#12
Tony Ballesteros Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 28, 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 123	i wonder why the mission is off? hmmmm

11-03-2006, 06:02 PM	#14
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well I have watched this case and I dont know what to make of it. Honestly it reeks of yet another coverup by the government. I think American's like to think our government tells us everything but this is kind of the opposite of how it actually is. I think Justin was involved in some stuff and I think the pressure of it right was getting to him, hence the time when his girlfriend found him sobbing in a room and stuff. I also find that fishy how a guy that is missing has absouletely zero websites on him. I think all of this is just very strange. But there is more to this story. I dont think it was just Justin having problems. I think he may have had emotional issues but I think they were caused by whatever he was involved in it that was just too much for him. Clearly Justin was afraid of someone or something considering he bought two pistols. This is such a strange case. Anyone else have any thoughts?

11-06-2006, 05:21 PM	#15
crystaldawn Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 17, 2002 Location: Illinois Posts: 4,261	I think it is possible that Justin disappeared initially on his own. It did seem like he was involved in something thus the phone call from the unknown man saying "the mission is off" but its also possible that Justin was having some sort of mental issue that resulted in his extreme paranoia. It doesn't seem like he was taken abruptly and seemed like he disappeared on his own if he did indeed park his car there. I did mention earlier in this post that I had spoken with someone who went through basic training with Justin and said he had spoken with his parents previously and he was still missing. He also said that Justin certainly did not seem like the type to be involved in anything covert but also said that if anyone was capable of disappearing and never being found it would be him. One of the great UM's because there's no clear cut answer and it could go either way. I do hope that his parents can someday get some answers about what happened to him.