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bry · 09-06-2004, 07:59 PM

"you gotta jump out of an aeroplane, you gotta have a parachute"

maddie is still quiet. dave is still losing it. he gets to his boiling point and rebels. he takes bert to a club and they hook up with two women. and go home with them. bert leaves, but dave stays and scores.
all this while maddie is finding out that she is pregnant.

the subplot of the bert-agnes-macguilacuddy triangle gets big here. i loved the near showdown in the parking garage to "leader of the pack". this, makes me score it a bit higher.

rating: 5

kismet · 09-06-2004, 08:06 PM

Me no likee!

David was with a one night stand. I didn't like this at all.

At least Bert was true blue.

CyBr · 09-06-2004, 09:11 PM

The fact that Maddie calls David first when she finds out she's pregnant tells me she thinks the baby is probably his. This makes her later behavior (even with the weird dreams on the train) just inexplicable to me.

bry · 09-06-2004, 09:46 PM

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David was with a one night stand. I didn't like this at all.

i don't like it either, but at least it was while he was being rebeloius. not making excuses, but better then when he's trying to put maddie behind him, than while they would be together.

pmarier · 09-07-2004, 01:05 AM

i think that david was sort of in character to have the one night stand. maddie...oh, this gives me a headache.

CindyK · 09-07-2004, 02:40 PM

I can forgive David for his indiscretions given he was so low and felt totally rejected by Maddie, but what I just can't forgive him for is NOT being home when she called with the news about the baby..... If only he had known...I am sure he would have been there waiting by that phone with bells on.

But overall a dark, depressing episode. However, it is well written and I do love how the classic lit. reference in the title captures what is going on in this episode so well. Two different cities, two different things happening, and how each impacts the other so much.

david&maddie4ever · 09-07-2004, 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by CindyK
I can forgive David for his indiscretions given he was so low and felt totally rejected by Maddie, but what I just can't forgive him for is NOT being home when she called with the news about the baby.....

Exactly what I was going to say. Although I never like to see Mads or Dave with other people, I can understand Dave's thought process (or lack there of) this time. He was searching for a way to put Maddie in the rearview mirror, and in his mind, this method may have had a possibility to work.

As for Dave not being home when Maddie gave him the call...I can't really blame him...but it did bother me. What a lousy break!

The only part about this episode that I distinctly remember is the scene where Mads finds out she's pregnant. I do recall liking it a lot, though.

Tamm · 11-23-2004, 12:05 PM

Jumping way ahead of myself and out of sequence I have just seen this one for the first time.

Didn't like David being with the one night stand. I was hoping he'd follow Bert's lead and leave

I did like the scenes with maddie though but the phone call to Agnes seems wrong, she'd never leave that sort of a message on an answer machine. No matter that is a "difficult" topic I am sure Maddie wouldn't leave that message

CyBr · 11-23-2004, 03:27 PM

I wondered about that too. At first it seemed a little odd that she would call Agnes at all since she was a subordinate of Maddie rather than a personal friend. But I think what Maddie was really doing was chickening out of telling David directly. She hung up fast when she got his machine so she didn't want to leave that message for him! But I think she still wanted him to know and she knew that if she left the message for Agnes, it would probably get back to David...which it did!

Tamm · 11-23-2004, 04:14 PM

You could be correct. I am sure we have all done the message thing at least once

Dutchie · 11-23-2004, 04:21 PM

actually, I didn't

But I was talking to a good friend of mine via msn once and I asked for his number (he already had mine). I turned on my cellphone and he called right away! It scared the crap out of me and I threw the phone in the air

He hang up after that

(btw, I know him for 13 years already, I will not give my number to a stranger. Just so you know

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cece · 11-24-2004, 12:02 AM

The one nighter ended so sadly. As David was leaving, he made a very half-hearted attempt to leave the empty experience on a good note by saying “Maybe we could. .”, and the one-nightie interrupts saying “...or not.” Clearly, she didn’t care anything for David, ands he was probably relieved. He wanders the streets feeling so awful; the experience not having provided him what he really needs: loving intimacy. Instead he meets a bum on the street and gives him more than what he asked for, generously giving something tangible to a stranger in need (an act of love),while unable to give his great, intangible love to Maddie.

09-06-2004, 07:59 PM	#1
bry Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 21, 2003 Location: n.c. Posts: 819	"Tale In Two Cities" "you gotta jump out of an aeroplane, you gotta have a parachute" maddie is still quiet. dave is still losing it. he gets to his boiling point and rebels. he takes bert to a club and they hook up with two women. and go home with them. bert leaves, but dave stays and scores. all this while maddie is finding out that she is pregnant. the subplot of the bert-agnes-macguilacuddy triangle gets big here. i loved the near showdown in the parking garage to "leader of the pack". this, makes me score it a bit higher. rating: 5
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09-06-2004, 08:06 PM	#2
kismet I'm addicted too! Senior Member Join Date: Jul 14, 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 1,239	Me no likee! David was with a one night stand. I didn't like this at all. At least Bert was true blue.
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09-07-2004, 02:40 PM	#6
CindyK Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jun 10, 2004 Location: Panama City Beach Florida Posts: 639	I can forgive David for his indiscretions given he was so low and felt totally rejected by Maddie, but what I just can't forgive him for is NOT being home when she called with the news about the baby..... If only he had known...I am sure he would have been there waiting by that phone with bells on. But overall a dark, depressing episode. However, it is well written and I do love how the classic lit. reference in the title captures what is going on in this episode so well. Two different cities, two different things happening, and how each impacts the other so much.
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11-23-2004, 12:05 PM	#8
Tamm Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 24, 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 408	Jumping way ahead of myself and out of sequence I have just seen this one for the first time. Didn't like David being with the one night stand. I was hoping he'd follow Bert's lead and leave I did like the scenes with maddie though but the phone call to Agnes seems wrong, she'd never leave that sort of a message on an answer machine. No matter that is a "difficult" topic I am sure Maddie wouldn't leave that message
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11-23-2004, 04:21 PM	#11
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09-06-2004, 09:11 PM	#3
CyBr Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 17, 2004 Posts: 515	The fact that Maddie calls David first when she finds out she's pregnant tells me she thinks the baby is probably his. This makes her later behavior (even with the weird dreams on the train) just inexplicable to me.

09-07-2004, 01:05 AM	#5
pmarier pmarier Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 12, 2004 Posts: 24	i think that david was sort of in character to have the one night stand. maddie...oh, this gives me a headache.

11-23-2004, 03:27 PM	#9
CyBr Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 17, 2004 Posts: 515	I wondered about that too. At first it seemed a little odd that she would call Agnes at all since she was a subordinate of Maddie rather than a personal friend. But I think what Maddie was really doing was chickening out of telling David directly. She hung up fast when she got his machine so she didn't want to leave that message for him! But I think she still wanted him to know and she knew that if she left the message for Agnes, it would probably get back to David...which it did!

11-23-2004, 04:14 PM	#10
Tamm Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 24, 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 408	You could be correct. I am sure we have all done the message thing at least once

11-24-2004, 12:02 AM	#12
cece Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Nov 20, 2004 Posts: 10	The one nighter ended so sadly. As David was leaving, he made a very half-hearted attempt to leave the empty experience on a good note by saying “Maybe we could. .”, and the one-nightie interrupts saying “...or not.” Clearly, she didn’t care anything for David, ands he was probably relieved. He wanders the streets feeling so awful; the experience not having provided him what he really needs: loving intimacy. Instead he meets a bum on the street and gives him more than what he asked for, generously giving something tangible to a stranger in need (an act of love),while unable to give his great, intangible love to Maddie.
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