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TVFactFan · 09-04-2004, 08:33 PM

I wish there was a way of finding out how certain shows do in sales when released on DVD. Knowing that info would answer lots of questions.

robyrob · 09-04-2004, 11:18 PM

ditto - it'd also be nice to find out how much money they actually put into producing them, so we get an idea of how well the sets do profit-wise

barwars · 09-05-2004, 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by robyrob
ditto - it'd also be nice to find out how much money they actually put into producing them, so we get an idea of how well the sets do profit-wise

TVDVDs are probably the cheapest thing ever to make.
About $10,000 to make the menus and design packaging (this is without special features), and then the few dimes to actually make the discs and packaging.

Unless a show has to be restored, TVDVDs are the easiest money ever. (that's why I know Cheers is guaranteed to be released on DVD with every season, I've read Paramount spent $110 Million dollars restoring the episodes, they'd be fools not to bring them on DVD. Complete idiots.)

robyrob · 09-05-2004, 12:54 AM

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Originally posted by barwars
TVDVDs are probably the cheapest thing ever to make.
About $10,000 to make the menus and design packaging (this is without special features), and then the few dimes to actually make the discs and packaging.

Unless a show has to be restored, TVDVDs are the easiest money ever. (that's why I know Cheers is guaranteed to be released on DVD with every season, I've read Paramount spent $110 Million dollars restoring the episodes, they'd be fools not to bring them on DVD. Complete idiots.)

the difference is when you compare how much is spent on extras added, or when you take shows like WKRP in Cincinnati and Freaks & Geeks that a lot of original music rights have to be acquired for...

i guess the point that i'm getting at is that it seems like some of these companies are saying that all those extras are too expensive; it be nice if the "costs" were actually made open to the buying public just too keep them honest.

Dean Winchester · 09-05-2004, 12:37 PM

a week or so ago, I posted a thread about the "gross" (which included sales) of the top 52 highest grossing DVD titles for the calendar year 2003, but since the chart was about gross, the favor was automatically shifted in favor of the expensive HBO style sets. The cheapest titles on there to gross enough to actually earn a spot on the list were the $39.99 Friends seasons 1 and 2 and Sex And The City season 1. Everything else retailed for $49.99 and up.

Dean Winchester · 09-05-2004, 12:38 PM

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Originally posted by barwars
TVDVDs are probably the cheapest thing ever to make.
About $10,000 to make the menus and design packaging (this is without special features), and then the few dimes to actually make the discs and packaging.

Unless a show has to be restored, TVDVDs are the easiest money ever. (that's why I know Cheers is guaranteed to be released on DVD with every season, I've read Paramount spent $110 Million dollars restoring the episodes, they'd be fools not to bring them on DVD. Complete idiots.)

true, but Fox spent a lot restoring Mary Tyler Moore, but simply because MTM won't sell 1 million per season the way Simpsons or Family Guy does... Fox treated it like crap and dropped it.

barwars · 09-05-2004, 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
true, but Fox spent a lot restoring Mary Tyler Moore, but simply because MTM won't sell 1 million per season the way Simpsons or Family Guy does... Fox treated it like crap and dropped it.

Exactly, but if they have Seasons 2-7 restored, they're just being stupid not releasing them. (I know that Season 2 is all set for DVD, just needs a release date)

Dean Winchester · 09-05-2004, 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by barwars
Exactly, but if they have Seasons 2-7 restored, they're just being stupid not releasing them. (I know that Season 2 is all set for DVD, just needs a release date)

even though I wouldn't be interested enough in MTM to buy on DVD, I wonder if we should get people like Pavan and Stephen to complain to Fox... I don't think Fox has ever read "Home Theater Forum" (a message board similar to this) devoted to tv-dvd's.... in it, there is a thread with no less than 10 pages of people complaining "when the hell is season 2 coming!!!!". Fox needs to understand that you can't expect the same type of sales from a 30 year old classic tv show that you'll get from more recent likes of Family Guy, Simpsons, Buffy The Vampire Slayer or Futurama. M*A*S*H is as classic as 70's television gets and on average that'll make about 200k per DVD. Fox needs to strive for Mash numbers, not Simpsons numbers, for MTM.

robyrob · 09-05-2004, 01:11 PM

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Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
even though I wouldn't be interested enough in MTM to buy on DVD, I wonder if we should get people like Pavan and Stephen to complain to Fox... I don't think Fox has ever read "Home Theater Forum" (a message board similar to this) devoted to tv-dvd's.... in it, there is a thread with no less than 10 pages of people complaining "when the hell is season 2 coming!!!!". Fox needs to understand that you can't expect the same type of sales from a 30 year old classic tv show that you'll get from more recent likes of Family Guy, Simpsons, Buffy The Vampire Slayer or Futurama. M*A*S*H is as classic as 70's television gets and on average that'll make about 200k per DVD. Fox needs to strive for Mash numbers, not Simpsons numbers, for MTM.

if they want it to sell, they have to promote it - i didnt even know about MtM Season 1 until way after it had been released, in fact i found out about it when i read about how BAD the sales for it were....

Dean Winchester · 09-05-2004, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by robyrob
if they want it to sell, they have to promote it - i didnt even know about MtM Season 1 until way after it had been released, in fact i found out about it when i read about how BAD the sales for it were....

I wanna know HOW bad the sales were.

1. disapointing for Fox considering the other shows they have and release that sell mammoth numbers bad?
2. comparable to what Columbia's 70's TV-DVD's sell "bad" (since Fox's DVD's usually are much bigger sellers than Columbia's)
3. the soundscan number is at 12 bad.

I have a really hard time believing that MTM at $40 was considered so ungodly high and that the set sold all of 8 copies, while the Dick Van Dyke sets, which retail in the $60's were these massive Simpson-esque blockbusters.

09-04-2004, 08:33 PM	#1
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09-05-2004, 12:37 PM	#5
Dean Winchester Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 28, 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 14,803	a week or so ago, I posted a thread about the "gross" (which included sales) of the top 52 highest grossing DVD titles for the calendar year 2003, but since the chart was about gross, the favor was automatically shifted in favor of the expensive HBO style sets. The cheapest titles on there to gross enough to actually earn a spot on the list were the $39.99 Friends seasons 1 and 2 and Sex And The City season 1. Everything else retailed for $49.99 and up.