Grammy 2004

[jamesanthony]

In past years the eligibility cutoff period is at the end of this month;unless they've extended it that means that there are only 4 more weeks' worth of new material that will be eligible (although occassionally they'll cheat and let some early October stuff in). That said what do you all think will get nominated this time around? I don't follow a lot of the styles like rock or country but based on the grammy tastes in recent years I wouldn't be surprised to see the following nominees:

Record/song:

Yeah by Usher
If I Aint Got You by Alicia Keys
This Love by Maroon5

Album:

I don't know, maybe Prince and Usher

New Artist:

Maroon5
LosLonelyBoys
Kanye West
Gretchen Wilson

Producer:

Kanye West
Neptunes

Pop album:

Norah Jones

Pop male:

?? I don't know maybe Jimmy Buffett and Prince

Pop female:

Norah Jones, Diana Krall

Pop group:

LosLonelyBoys and Maroon5

Pop Collaboration:

Ray Charles and Van Morrison

Traditional pop: Rod Stewart

various R&b catergories:

Usher, Alicia Keys, Patti Labelle, Teena Marie, Brandy, Anita Baker, Joe, Brian McKnight, Prince, R Kelly

country:

Jimmy Buffett and some of the people he has collaborated with, Gretchen Wilson, Alison Krauss and Union Station

Rock:

Hoobastank, Dave Matthews, Avril Lavigne

rap:

Kanye West (probably in 5 of the 6 categories)

jazz:

Al Jarreau

Contemporary Christian:

Switchfoot, MercyMe
Who'll win any of these divisions is anyone's guess.

[BowWowsBaby]

sounds ok to me...I hope Switchfoot does get nominate, they've worked so hard for such a long time. I would also like to see Usher, Alicia Keys, Prince, Norah Jones, and Kanye West nominated.

[¤I Love Clay Aiken¤]

I see Usher, Alicia Keys, and Beyonce getting a lot of nominations. Itd be nice to see Clay Aiken get some recognition too. Hes already got an award from the AMA's and Billboard.

[vashti1999]

I was planning on posting a thread like this closer to when the nominations are announced, but since the gun has been jumped, I'll post my thoughts here. I think Prince will be the big nominee this year, not just because I'm a Prince fan. The success of his tour, his R&R HOF induction will put him voters minds and the many positive reviews of the Musicology album should translate into nominations. Plus the Grammys have shown themselves to honor veterans in recent years (Bonnie Raitt, Bob Dylan, Santana, Steely Dan) and since Prince has never been a big Grammy winner, this is the perfect opportunity for him to win big in a soft year for music. So I'm looking for at least Record of The Year, Album of The Year, Male Pop Vocal, Male R&B Vocal and R&B Song nominations for Prince.

I can see Maroon 5 getting a Record of the Year nomination, and recent Grammy darlings Alicia Keys, Norah Jones and Outkast should all get some nominations. "Roses" should get mentioned somewhere. Even though his album hasn't really taken off, look for Ricky Fante to get some nominations, certainly Best New Artist. I bet "The Reason" by Hoobstank gets a major nomination. They may even give the new duets album from Ray Charles some nominations as a way to honor him. I wouldn't be surprised if It's My Life from No Doubt and Toxic from Britney Spears get Record of The Year nominations. George Michael deserves a Male pop Vocal nomination.

[Dean Winchester]

don't like him, but I think Usher might get a few major nods this year.

Prince's Musicology would be a great choice for Album Of The Year, considering 1. it's a major comeback and 2. Prince is an all time legend at this point and he's never won an award like that in the past (even tho I think he should've won over Lionel Richie and U2 in 1984 and 1987), and you know how the Grammys love a great comeback story (see Santana and Bonnie Raitt).

I don't think D12 will get any nominations at all, their album has done okay but I think people are thankfully getting over their Eminem trip they've been on since 2000.

[BowWowsBaby]

Originally posted by BuffySlayer79

I don't think D12 will get any nominations at all, their album has done okay but I think people are thankfully getting over their Eminem trip they've been on since 2000.

I hope you're right about that!

[jamesanthony]

I don't know about Beyonce, Outkast or No Doubt since their albums won last year. No Doubt's album has won in each of the last 2 years actually. Lauryn Hill got a nomination in 99 for a song from her album of the year winner of 98 and they rescinded the 99 nominee. Unless these acts release a new album or show up on someone else's album I don't think they'll get any attention this time around except for maybe a video or some collaboration. I could see George Michael for pop male. Some adult contemporary acts like Five for Fighting, Sheryl Crow and Seal could also show up in pop male vocal performance. IS Ricky Fante that well liked by critics?

[vashti1999]

Article from the LA Times

September 12, 2004

POP EYE

Prince tops Grammy possibles

His may be the most intriguing name surfacing in the early handicapping of the Grammys.

By Steve Hochman, Special to The Times

Prince almost stole the show as a performer at the Grammy Awards this year. Can he steal it again in the 47th edition of the prestigious music honors Feb. 13 at Staples Center — but this time as an award winner?

His may be the most intriguing name surfacing in the early handicapping of the Grammys as the Sept. 30 cutoff for eligible releases approaches.


Longtime Grammy insiders and observers surveyed by Pop Eye consider Prince's "Musicology" to be among the favorites for album of the year consideration. The album was the centerpiece of an amazing comeback that included a new accessibility and one of the year's most successful concert tours.

Noah Callahan-Bever, senior editor of Vibe magazine, said Prince is likely to get attention "for delivering the kind of record people wanted him to make and for having launched the campaign on the Grammy show … which can't hurt."

The album of the year nominees list could be dominated by African American urban music stars to an unprecedented extent, with R&B singer Usher's "Confessions," dominant rap rookie Kanye West's "College Dropout" and 2001 multi-Grammy-winner Alicia Keys' "Diary of Alicia Keys" among the top choices of those surveyed.

Singer Norah Jones — the queen of the 2002 Grammys with best album and new artist among the awards won for her debut album, "Come Away With Me" — may have the best chance of crashing the urban party, though support for her current album, "Feels Like Home," seems relatively lukewarm at this point.

"If it comes to pass that hip-hop and urban albums dominate the album of the year category, all you can say is it's a long time coming," says Joe Levy, deputy managing editor of Rolling Stone magazine. "Artistically it's the most important music and commercially one of the dominant musics for well over a decade. And it's music where new talent is constantly emerging and pushing the boundaries."

There's even a chance that Prince could get a nomination and not be the senior R&B figure on the album ballot. There's strong sentiment for Ray Charles, who died in June and whose duets album "Genius Loves Company" came out in August — though the general feeling is that the record is not strong enough to gather the level of support that went to Warren Zevon's posthumous "The Wind" last year.

No clear choice

Predicting nominations has become complicated in recent years, with the final selections in the top awards categories now made by a blue-ribbon panel, choosing from the 20 entries receiving the most votes from the general Recording Academy membership.

That gives an almost-anything-can-happen spin to the process, as when Radiohead's "OK Computer" got a 1998 album nomination when the English group was basically a hipster favorite rather than a mainstream name.

This year, though, there doesn't seem to be an obvious candidate to fill that role.

"There wasn't a Radiohead or Coldplay or White Stripes," says Vibe's Callahan-Bever. "There was nothing going on."

Franz Ferdinand is one band that could move into that slot, but the Scottish post-punk revivalists seem a longshot for album consideration, though a strong bet for a best new artist nomination. Other leading candidates in that category include the bands Maroon 5 and Los Lonely Boys, as well as country newcomer Gretchen Wilson and rapper West.

Both West and Usher have made great strides in reaching beyond the urban markets, but neither seems to have quite the cross-cultural appeal that swept OutKast to its album win for last year's "Speakerboxxx/The Love Below."

"Usher has a really good chance," says Alan Light, editor in chief of Tracks magazine and a former editor of Rolling Stone, Spin and Vibe. "He's put a decent career under his belt, getting strong on stage."

The tepid support for Jones is a bit of a surprise, considering that her second album has sold very well, if not quite to the phenomenal level of the debut.

"I expect it's the same picture that it was for her tour this summer — scale down," says Rolling Stone's Levy. "She had to scale down the size of venues. I think she'll scale down on Grammy nominations. But she makes intimate records, so it's fine for her to scale down."

Loretta Lynn's "Van Lear Rose," which saw the country veteran in a dynamic collaboration with Jack White of the White Stripes, seemed a strong candidate when it came out. But while the album received tremendous attention, it never built much momentum in mainstream consciousness.

Rounding out the field

Other names expected to get serious consideration include Black Eyed Peas, Jill Scott, Van Hunt, the Beastie Boys, the Shins and Modest Mouse. The last could wind up being this year's Shelby Lynne, who was best new artist in 2000 after eligibility rules were changed to allow consideration of artists who had made a leap from relative obscurity to mainstream recognition.

Modest Mouse has been making records for more than a decade, but is only now enjoying its first mainstream hit with its current album "Good News for People Who Love Bad News" and single "Float On."

[MissZero]

Thanks for posting that....do you kow when the nominations will be announced


and in case ya don't know this is BowWowsBaby

[vashti1999]

Originally posted by MissZero
Thanks for posting that....do you kow when the nominations will be announced


and in case ya don't know this is BowWowsBaby

Ok, I was wondering who Miss Zero was. The noms are usually announced roughly a month before the ceremony, which will be February 15, 2005. Most likely they won't announce nominations until January.

[vashti1999]

Originally posted by vashti1999
Most likely they won't announce nominations until January.

Strike that. I just checked the website:

Nominations for the 47th Annual GRAMMY Awards will be announced in Los Angeles on Dec. 8, 2004.

[MissZero]

Originally posted by vashti1999
Strike that. I just checked the website:

Nominations for the 47th Annual GRAMMY Awards will be announced in Los Angeles on Dec. 8, 2004.

ok, thanks

[jamesanthony]

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Vashti posted a noteworthy article. I find that the grammies are very predictable. If you have been following them for a while and you know their tastes and which artists get the most PR you won't be too far off in figuring out who will get nominated. Basically no or little PR = forget about them getting nominated. Certain people don't need big record sales to get nominated or even to win, although a newcomer better have some solid sales in his or her field to win, unless the competition is flaky. Ricky Fante and Van Hunt could get nominated for r&b vocal against Usher for example but I seriuosly doubt that they would win over him.

I would say that the odds of urban contemporary dominating the top fields this year are quite strong, although no single from that genre has ever won best record. Records by George Benson, Steve Winwood, Eric Clapton, Roberta Flack and Tina Turner that had an r&b flavor have all won, but the record companies submitted them to compete in pop performance. No country single has ever won record of the year either. I haven't been following country music this year, but I can't think of any really big country single that would show up in a top field the way songs by Shania Twain, Lee Ann Womack and Faith Hill have in the last few years.