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BWLuv · 09-01-2004, 02:36 PM

TVLand started the series over today. Does TVLand show all the episodes in the series?

SawgrassSteve · 09-01-2004, 05:56 PM

Yes, but..
They're edited, include commercials, and are frequently out of order.
I'm spoiled now.

Steve

Petrie Malone · 09-03-2004, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SawgrassSteve
Yes, but..
They're edited, include commercials, and are frequently out of order.
I'm spoiled now.

Steve

We are all spoiled after having the whole series un-cut and commercial-free on DVD!

When I watch a TV Land episode of TDVDS I can't believe the difference in picture quality compared to the DVDs! It's so grainy and I can tell where the episode has been edited for syndication. Releasing TV DVDs is gonna put networks like TV Land out of business-- the fans will have more complete collections than the networks!

Kurt

BWLuv · 09-03-2004, 11:00 AM

Another early episodes question:

In these eraly ones, Laura seems very different, she got this cooing, breathy, voiced baby-wife and is used mainly for husband-ego-boosting: "Oh, darling, no." "Sweetheart, you're just imagining this," "Oh, darling, I'm calling the doctor for you right now."

In later episodes she was a much stronger, independent character.

Am I imagining this?

Also when did the Petrie living room first appear. In the first episode they kept exiting through the kitchen FRONT.

Also when do Millie and Jerry first appear.

SawgrassSteve · 09-03-2004, 08:13 PM

BWLuv,
You're very observant. It's not just your imagination, Laura was a more subdued character in the earliest episodes. She was only meant to be a supporting character, like Richie and the Helpers. Sally was to play the female lead, since the office was originally planned to be the main setting for the show. So Laura was a little more meek, retiring, and yes, breathy. And you're right; she could coo with the best of 'em

!
Ahem! Anyway, Carl Reiner noticed Mary's talent, charm, and quick ability to interpret her lines in a comedic way during rehearsals, and decided to write Laura into the script more often (thank you Carl!). With that change, Rob's homelife became the show's main setting, and Laura became a stronger, more complete character.
I hadn't noticed it myself, but the livingroom first appeared in "Washingon vs. The Bunny." I didn't miss it before then, and it's entirely possible they could have still been working on it. This show appears to have been started on a shoesting budget.
The Helpers first appear in "Jealousy."
BWLuv, those are great Season 1 questions that drove me back to the disc to check for the answers. Not that I mind. I got to see Laura in one of my favorite outfits; the cute little number she wears in act 3 of "The Meershatz Pipe."

Steve

BWLuv · 09-03-2004, 08:34 PM

That was a good move on Reiner's part regarding Laura.

I love my wife, but I could not stand that constant saccharine sweetie type wife on tv or in real life. Laura became a great character, and although she was supportive of Rob, she still could zing him.

I have the season one DVD, but haven't watched the commentaries nor all the episodes.

I love when Sally says, "You look like an ad for send this boy to camp" in the second episode. That was a line I always remembered, but couldn't place. I thought maybe it had been eidted out of the episode where Rob wears his wrinkled clothes to the office when Laura has Richie, so I'm glad I found it."

Petrie Malone · 09-03-2004, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by SawgrassSteve
BWLuv,
You're very observant. It's not just your imagination, Laura was a more subdued character in the earliest episodes. She was only meant to be a supporting character, like Richie and the Helpers. Sally was to play the female lead, since the office was originally planned to be the main setting for the show. So Laura was a little more meek, retiring, and yes, breathy. And you're right; she could coo with the best of 'em !
Ahem! Anyway, Carl Reiner noticed Mary's talent, charm, and quick ability to interpret her lines in a comedic way during rehearsals, and decided to write Laura into the script more often (thank you Carl!). With that change, Rob's homelife became the show's main setting, and Laura became a stronger, more complete character.

I love the Sally Rogers character and all, but I just can't imagine her being the female lead of the series. I'm much happier the way the show turned out; it had the perfect blend of home and work. Not too many shows can brag about that!

If Carl didn't increase Laura's part in the series she wouldn't have been any different than other TV wives in that era. Thankfully, Carl did, and by doing that he gave us some of the greatest episodes in the series. (Including: The Curious Thing About Women, Coast-to-Coast Big Mouth, and, of course, Never Bathe on Saturday!) Also, if Carl didn't develop Laura Petrie, there probably wouldn't have been TMTMS. TMTMS is great sitcom, but I prefer TDVDS. Sure, Mary Richards could turn the world on with her smile, but Laura Petrie is still my favorite!

Kurt

BWLuv · 09-03-2004, 09:33 PM

"I'm much happier the way the show turned out; it had the perfect blend of home and work. Not too many shows can brag about that!

If Carl didn't increase Laura's part in the series she wouldn't have been any different than other TV wives in that era."

Those are two great points. Laura Petrie was a very different tv wife. Those shows that highlighted her were all great ones.

My favorite Sally episode is the one with the priest. Everyone not only delivers great lines, but their physical intrepretations are perfect. I love when Rob goes to take Sally's wrap... Perfect timing on that episode.

SawgrassSteve · 09-04-2004, 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by BWLuv
..In the first episode they kept exiting through the kitchen FRONT.

I almost forgot to address this point.
Practically speaking, I think they were still working out the layout of the Petrie home on the soundstage at Desilu Studios, but in my fantasy 60s New Rochelle world, the Petrie home went through a little remodeling. It appears that the kitchen itself is very different in later episodes of the first season, appliances and all.

Steve

09-01-2004, 02:36 PM	#1
BWLuv Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 21, 2004 Posts: 203	Episodes TVLand started the series over today. Does TVLand show all the episodes in the series?

09-01-2004, 05:56 PM	#2
SawgrassSteve Loyal Worshipper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,423	Yes, but.. They're edited, include commercials, and are frequently out of order. I'm spoiled now. Steve
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09-03-2004, 11:00 AM	#4
BWLuv Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 21, 2004 Posts: 203	Another early episodes question: In these eraly ones, Laura seems very different, she got this cooing, breathy, voiced baby-wife and is used mainly for husband-ego-boosting: "Oh, darling, no." "Sweetheart, you're just imagining this," "Oh, darling, I'm calling the doctor for you right now." In later episodes she was a much stronger, independent character. Am I imagining this? Also when did the Petrie living room first appear. In the first episode they kept exiting through the kitchen FRONT. Also when do Millie and Jerry first appear.

09-03-2004, 08:13 PM	#5
SawgrassSteve Loyal Worshipper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,423	BWLuv, You're very observant. It's not just your imagination, Laura was a more subdued character in the earliest episodes. She was only meant to be a supporting character, like Richie and the Helpers. Sally was to play the female lead, since the office was originally planned to be the main setting for the show. So Laura was a little more meek, retiring, and yes, breathy. And you're right; she could coo with the best of 'em ! Ahem! Anyway, Carl Reiner noticed Mary's talent, charm, and quick ability to interpret her lines in a comedic way during rehearsals, and decided to write Laura into the script more often (thank you Carl!). With that change, Rob's homelife became the show's main setting, and Laura became a stronger, more complete character. I hadn't noticed it myself, but the livingroom first appeared in "Washingon vs. The Bunny." I didn't miss it before then, and it's entirely possible they could have still been working on it. This show appears to have been started on a shoesting budget. The Helpers first appear in "Jealousy." BWLuv, those are great Season 1 questions that drove me back to the disc to check for the answers. Not that I mind. I got to see Laura in one of my favorite outfits; the cute little number she wears in act 3 of "The Meershatz Pipe." Steve

09-03-2004, 08:34 PM	#6
BWLuv Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 21, 2004 Posts: 203	That was a good move on Reiner's part regarding Laura. I love my wife, but I could not stand that constant saccharine sweetie type wife on tv or in real life. Laura became a great character, and although she was supportive of Rob, she still could zing him. I have the season one DVD, but haven't watched the commentaries nor all the episodes. I love when Sally says, "You look like an ad for send this boy to camp" in the second episode. That was a line I always remembered, but couldn't place. I thought maybe it had been eidted out of the episode where Rob wears his wrinkled clothes to the office when Laura has Richie, so I'm glad I found it."

09-03-2004, 09:33 PM	#8
BWLuv Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 21, 2004 Posts: 203	"I'm much happier the way the show turned out; it had the perfect blend of home and work. Not too many shows can brag about that! If Carl didn't increase Laura's part in the series she wouldn't have been any different than other TV wives in that era." Those are two great points. Laura Petrie was a very different tv wife. Those shows that highlighted her were all great ones. My favorite Sally episode is the one with the priest. Everyone not only delivers great lines, but their physical intrepretations are perfect. I love when Rob goes to take Sally's wrap... Perfect timing on that episode.