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Trishalla · 08-21-2004, 03:16 PM

I have trouble koping with Bill Cosby's Comments

especially when you look at the Cartoon Fat Albert and The Cosby Kids.

and thoses kids were "poor" and the they played in a junk yard

to me thats almost like the pot calling the kettle black.

knl9674 · 08-23-2004, 10:26 AM

AMEN! how soon we forget all of bill cosby's past work. fat albert was one of the most stereotypical cartoons ever. one character's lips were so big he couldn't even talk. most of the dialogue was in ebonics. BUT, they dealt with real issues as far as bullies and drugs. ALSO, his series of movies with his then sidekick, Sidney P, fit into the whole blaxpoitation movement. He wasn't doing anything for the upliftment of the community as far as his creative work then.
Enter the Cosby show era and dude is a hero. NOW, he can backtalk about what everyone else is doing. Albeit his comments were harsh, I have to agree with a lot of what he was saying. He was speaking the truth. But considering his complete past, he needs to remember where he's come from. Hard to look low when you're sitting so very high. My theory on the Cosby's and Spike Lees...if you don't like what is out there now, do something about it. There are so many black independent creative folk (movies, books) but they don't get the funding to make their visions a reality. Cos and Lee have the connections, resources and money needed to make this happen. Where were they when BET was sold outside of the community? Stop talking so much and judging and put some quality product in the marketplace. Yes, they've done their part in the past with positive portrayls of the community, but this is an ongoing process. You can't do something, step out then look back and critique. I ask, what the hell are you doing?

laneyday · 08-31-2004, 10:36 AM

AMEN!

James"Thunder"Early · 08-31-2004, 11:34 AM

Bill Cosby is really forgetting where he came from on some issues, such as shows. anyone who has seen "Uptown, Saturday Night" will see he is contradicting himself. but for him to criticize these shows for the characters being poor is ridiculous. had it not been for shows like Sanford and Son and Good Times his show would not have even come on, much less been a success. these shows were groundbreakers and the subject content was reality. they dealt with violence, sexual issues and death which was important at the time. He has assimilated to such heights he thinks he is better than some, because he was using the exact same material as these shows at one time. it comes from all black critics, all they do is complain about all the black shows there are. these people need to look at the spectrum of the black community and see that they enjoy the shows they criticize. someone mentioned BET, why hasn't Bill come out and criticized it for only showing videos and not a balance of programming. I agree with Bill on his other comments, but not on his views on shows.

laneyday · 08-31-2004, 12:02 PM

Right On!

TVFactFan · 08-31-2004, 07:54 PM

It was also said that Bill had a problem with Sanford and Son, Good Times, and Jeffersons using the N-Word

James"Thunder"Early · 08-31-2004, 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
It was also said that Bill had a problem with Sanford and Son, Good Times, and Jeffersons using the N-Word

Get over it, Bill alot of black people use the N-Word and besides I kind of funny in those shows

knl9674 · 09-01-2004, 09:44 AM

let's also not forget that in addition to using the N-word, these shows also leveled the playing field and used the H-word in reference to white people. although i don't recall the H-word ever being said on Good Times. am i incorrect? they used "whitey" quite a bit but that was it.

i know the n-word popped up a bit:

When James was at that bar and the drunk guy kept talking to him:
"N***a, do I know you?"

When the rich girl's parents came over to get her. - The debutante episode
Girl's father: Yes, let's go. We want to get out of here as soon as possible.
James: Yea, don't you know? There's N***as in here.

When Wologna was approached by Le-nay at that bar with Florida where they busted Bookman pretending to be Harry Belafonte.

Wologna: N***a, please.

i could keep going but you get my point.
agreed, bill cosby needs to get over it.

08-21-2004, 03:16 PM	#1
Trishalla Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 06, 2004 Posts: 185	you're right about Bill Cosby I have trouble koping with Bill Cosby's Comments especially when you look at the Cartoon Fat Albert and The Cosby Kids. and thoses kids were "poor" and the they played in a junk yard to me thats almost like the pot calling the kettle black.
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08-23-2004, 10:26 AM	#2
knl9674 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 18, 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 231	AMEN! how soon we forget all of bill cosby's past work. fat albert was one of the most stereotypical cartoons ever. one character's lips were so big he couldn't even talk. most of the dialogue was in ebonics. BUT, they dealt with real issues as far as bullies and drugs. ALSO, his series of movies with his then sidekick, Sidney P, fit into the whole blaxpoitation movement. He wasn't doing anything for the upliftment of the community as far as his creative work then. Enter the Cosby show era and dude is a hero. NOW, he can backtalk about what everyone else is doing. Albeit his comments were harsh, I have to agree with a lot of what he was saying. He was speaking the truth. But considering his complete past, he needs to remember where he's come from. Hard to look low when you're sitting so very high. My theory on the Cosby's and Spike Lees...if you don't like what is out there now, do something about it. There are so many black independent creative folk (movies, books) but they don't get the funding to make their visions a reality. Cos and Lee have the connections, resources and money needed to make this happen. Where were they when BET was sold outside of the community? Stop talking so much and judging and put some quality product in the marketplace. Yes, they've done their part in the past with positive portrayls of the community, but this is an ongoing process. You can't do something, step out then look back and critique. I ask, what the hell are you doing?

08-31-2004, 10:36 AM	#3
laneyday Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 18, 2003 Location: brampton, ontario Posts: 313	AMEN!

08-31-2004, 11:34 AM	#4
James"Thunder"Early Whoever's In New England Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 23, 2004 Location: The Apollo Posts: 7,088	Bill Cosby is really forgetting where he came from on some issues, such as shows. anyone who has seen "Uptown, Saturday Night" will see he is contradicting himself. but for him to criticize these shows for the characters being poor is ridiculous. had it not been for shows like Sanford and Son and Good Times his show would not have even come on, much less been a success. these shows were groundbreakers and the subject content was reality. they dealt with violence, sexual issues and death which was important at the time. He has assimilated to such heights he thinks he is better than some, because he was using the exact same material as these shows at one time. it comes from all black critics, all they do is complain about all the black shows there are. these people need to look at the spectrum of the black community and see that they enjoy the shows they criticize. someone mentioned BET, why hasn't Bill come out and criticized it for only showing videos and not a balance of programming. I agree with Bill on his other comments, but not on his views on shows.

08-31-2004, 12:02 PM	#5
laneyday Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 18, 2003 Location: brampton, ontario Posts: 313	Right On!

08-31-2004, 07:54 PM	#6
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,062	It was also said that Bill had a problem with Sanford and Son, Good Times, and Jeffersons using the N-Word

09-01-2004, 09:44 AM	#8
knl9674 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 18, 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 231	let's also not forget that in addition to using the N-word, these shows also leveled the playing field and used the H-word in reference to white people. although i don't recall the H-word ever being said on Good Times. am i incorrect? they used "whitey" quite a bit but that was it. i know the n-word popped up a bit: When James was at that bar and the drunk guy kept talking to him: "N*a, do I know you?" When the rich girl's parents came over to get her. - The debutante episode Girl's father: Yes, let's go. We want to get out of here as soon as possible. James: Yea, don't you know? There's Nas in here. When Wologna was approached by Le-nay at that bar with Florida where they busted Bookman pretending to be Harry Belafonte. Wologna: N**a, please. i could keep going but you get my point. agreed, bill cosby needs to get over it.