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TVFactFan · 08-07-2004, 03:54 PM

Cable? I ask because since the are no longer in one hour format viewers are missing a HUGE CHUNK of Footage since the show was reduced to 30 min. That's why i find it pointless to watch Carol Burnett and Dip Wilson because we are missing so much. So do anyone agree that you should just buy the show on DVD?

barwars · 08-07-2004, 08:09 PM

Yup.
If they come in season sets of course....

storrs19 · 08-08-2004, 05:28 PM

The Carol Burnett Show is the only one on DVD as far as I know.
The Flip Wilson Show on DVD is the same 22 minute shows on TVLand right now. I wish they would release some of The Ed Sullivan Show, The Dean Martin Show, The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour, The Johnny Cash Show and The Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour. That would be nice.

TVFactFan · 08-08-2004, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by storrs19
The Carol Burnett Show is the only one on DVD as far as I know.
The Flip Wilson Show on DVD is the same 22 minute shows on TVLand right now. I wish they would release some of The Ed Sullivan Show, The Dean Martin Show, The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour, The Johnny Cash Show and The Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour. That would be nice.

Wait a minute? Are you telling me that the TV LAND versions of the Flip Wilson Show are the same versions on the DVD?

storrs19 · 08-09-2004, 02:11 PM

Yup. Sadly they are. I'm glad I received one as a gift and did not pay for it. I was thinking they would be the original hour long (50 minutes without commercials) ones, but they only run 22 minutes for each episode. Rhino usually gives good entertainment, but on this set they lapsed. I certainly won't buy season 2 or for that matter Season 1 of ALF, since they are chopped too. (22 minutes) each. I can't see paying money for edited episodes.
Rumor has it that Flip himself put together 1/2 hour segments of his shows for synidaction when he bought the rights from NBC back in 1992 or so and these are those prints.

storrs19 · 08-09-2004, 02:14 PM

Actually, in correcting one of my earlier posts, The Dean Martin Show is available on DVD in a "Best of" collectors series from Gunthy-Renker. I bought the first one last night online for $14 (including shipping) to see how it is. I haven't seen that show in a million years it seems and Dean always had great guests on.

TVFactFan · 08-09-2004, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by storrs19
Yup. Sadly they are. I'm glad I received one as a gift and did not pay for it. I was thinking they would be the original hour long (50 minutes without commercials) ones, but they only run 22 minutes for each episode. Rhino usually gives good entertainment, but on this set they lapsed. I certainly won't buy season 2 or for that matter Season 1 of ALF, since they are chopped too. (22 minutes) each. I can't see paying money for edited episodes.
Rumor has it that Flip himself put together 1/2 hour segments of his shows for synidaction when he bought the rights from NBC back in 1992 or so and these are those prints.

Alf was really edited? Do you know for sure?

Brian · 08-09-2004, 06:54 PM

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Originally posted by TVShow Analyzer
Alf was really edited? Do you know for sure?

I think they are from what I've read. However, I think it might seem like it because they were probably time-compressed. Also, this show was produced in the late 1980s and by that time, shows had more ads than say the 50s to the 70s, when around that time episodes ran for like 26 or 27 minutes.

I myself have no way to compare the DVDs to the original episodes. Until I know for sure whether the episodes really were edited, I'm not going to waste a lot of money on edited episodes regardless of what show it is.

TVFactFan · 08-09-2004, 06:57 PM

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Originally posted by Brian
I think they are from what I've read. However, I think it might seem like it because they were probably time-compressed. Also, this show was produced in the late 1980s and by that time, shows had more ads than say the 50s to the 70s, when around that time episodes ran for like 26 or 27 minutes.

I myself have no way to compare the DVDs to the original episodes. Until I know for sure whether the episodes really were edited, I'm not going to waste a lot of money on edited episodes regardless of what show it is.

That's ridiculous

Skywalker · 08-09-2004, 09:41 PM

I've heard nothing about Alf being edited. The only people who can confirm this are the ones with the dvd. I would say any episodes less than 23:30 would be edited episodes.

storrs19 · 08-10-2004, 01:53 AM

I am just going by what Pav said and he's usually very accurate.
I have 3 episodes of ALF taped back in the 1980's from NBC and they run 24:00 without commercials. The quality is only fair, but I obtained them in a trade. Pav mentioned in the review that they are running between 20 and 22 minutes each and I know he includes the credits. Other shows from that era (Amen, 227, Golden Girls) also seem to run around 24:00.

spunkygirl · 08-10-2004, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by jpnoyes
I've heard nothing about Alf being edited. The only people who can confirm this are the ones with the dvd. I would say any episodes less than 23:30 would be edited episodes.

Yeah that's right JP my Who's the Boss? episodes were uncut on the DVD and they ran about 23:30, so with ALF being an 80's show, it should run about 23-24 minutes.

vashti1999 · 08-10-2004, 11:44 AM

Concerning the ALF dvd being edited, I never watched the show nor own the dvds, so I don't know this for myself, but here is a comment from someone on another dvd message board I'm a part of:

I received ALF Season 1 today and just by checking 2 random episodes (Pilot and "It's not easy being green") I noticed charring cuts. My guess is that once again syndicated episodes have made its way onto DVD. At this point I don't know if all episodes are affected, but the pilot alone is missing its first 2 minutes for crying out loud! As cheap as the set was, Lions Gate can shove further seasons for all I care.

EDIT: Noticed further cuts in "Mother and Child Reunion", and since it seems that all episodes have the same running time (or shorter) than this one (21:27) it's pretty much guaranteed that every episode is affected. And they have the nerve to call this "the complete first season" in the overview!

spunkygirl · 08-10-2004, 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by vashti1999
Concerning the ALF dvd being edited, I never watched the show nor own the dvds, so I don't know this for myself, but here is a comment from someone on another dvd message board I'm a part of:

I received ALF Season 1 today and just by checking 2 random episodes (Pilot and "It's not easy being green") I noticed charring cuts. My guess is that once again syndicated episodes have made its way onto DVD. At this point I don't know if all episodes are affected, but the pilot alone is missing its first 2 minutes for crying out loud! As cheap as the set was, Lions Gate can shove further seasons for all I care.

EDIT: Noticed further cuts in "Mother and Child Reunion", and since it seems that all episodes have the same running time (or shorter) than this one (21:27) it's pretty much guaranteed that every episode is affected. And they have the nerve to call this "the complete first season" in the overview!

They must think viewers are stupid, don't they realize that viewers are gonna notice there are cuts?

I mean people want these uncut, if they wanted them cut, they'd tape it off of tv

the dummies!

Glad I didn't waste my money buying that.

barwars · 08-10-2004, 03:18 PM

Damn.
I just did.... but seeing that it doesnt air in syndication, I can make the sacrifice. I dont want to -- but it's all I'll get.

08-07-2004, 03:54 PM	#1
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,097	Is it better to just purchase Old Variety Shows on DVD instead of watching them on Cable? I ask because since the are no longer in one hour format viewers are missing a HUGE CHUNK of Footage since the show was reduced to 30 min. That's why i find it pointless to watch Carol Burnett and Dip Wilson because we are missing so much. So do anyone agree that you should just buy the show on DVD?

08-08-2004, 05:28 PM	#3
storrs19 B&W TV Lover Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 07, 2003 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 742	The Carol Burnett Show is the only one on DVD as far as I know. The Flip Wilson Show on DVD is the same 22 minute shows on TVLand right now. I wish they would release some of The Ed Sullivan Show, The Dean Martin Show, The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour, The Johnny Cash Show and The Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour. That would be nice.
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08-10-2004, 11:44 AM	#13
vashti1999 NY METS - #1 Forum Fanatic Join Date: Oct 14, 2003 Location: The world's greatest city - New York City Posts: 11,404	Concerning the ALF dvd being edited, I never watched the show nor own the dvds, so I don't know this for myself, but here is a comment from someone on another dvd message board I'm a part of: I received ALF Season 1 today and just by checking 2 random episodes (Pilot and "It's not easy being green") I noticed charring cuts. My guess is that once again syndicated episodes have made its way onto DVD. At this point I don't know if all episodes are affected, but the pilot alone is missing its first 2 minutes for crying out loud! As cheap as the set was, Lions Gate can shove further seasons for all I care. EDIT: Noticed further cuts in "Mother and Child Reunion", and since it seems that all episodes have the same running time (or shorter) than this one (21:27) it's pretty much guaranteed that every episode is affected. And they have the nerve to call this "the complete first season" in the overview!
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08-07-2004, 08:09 PM	#2
barwars .. Forum Star Join Date: May 04, 2002 Posts: 13,273	Yup. If they come in season sets of course....

08-09-2004, 02:11 PM	#5
storrs19 B&W TV Lover Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 07, 2003 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 742	Yup. Sadly they are. I'm glad I received one as a gift and did not pay for it. I was thinking they would be the original hour long (50 minutes without commercials) ones, but they only run 22 minutes for each episode. Rhino usually gives good entertainment, but on this set they lapsed. I certainly won't buy season 2 or for that matter Season 1 of ALF, since they are chopped too. (22 minutes) each. I can't see paying money for edited episodes. Rumor has it that Flip himself put together 1/2 hour segments of his shows for synidaction when he bought the rights from NBC back in 1992 or so and these are those prints.

08-09-2004, 02:14 PM	#6
storrs19 B&W TV Lover Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 07, 2003 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 742	Actually, in correcting one of my earlier posts, The Dean Martin Show is available on DVD in a "Best of" collectors series from Gunthy-Renker. I bought the first one last night online for $14 (including shipping) to see how it is. I haven't seen that show in a million years it seems and Dean always had great guests on.

08-09-2004, 09:41 PM	#10
Skywalker Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Apr 04, 2003 Posts: 14,204	I've heard nothing about Alf being edited. The only people who can confirm this are the ones with the dvd. I would say any episodes less than 23:30 would be edited episodes.

08-10-2004, 01:53 AM	#11
storrs19 B&W TV Lover Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 07, 2003 Location: Louisville, Kentucky Posts: 742	I am just going by what Pav said and he's usually very accurate. I have 3 episodes of ALF taped back in the 1980's from NBC and they run 24:00 without commercials. The quality is only fair, but I obtained them in a trade. Pav mentioned in the review that they are running between 20 and 22 minutes each and I know he includes the credits. Other shows from that era (Amen, 227, Golden Girls) also seem to run around 24:00.

08-10-2004, 03:18 PM	#15
barwars .. Forum Star Join Date: May 04, 2002 Posts: 13,273	Damn. I just did.... but seeing that it doesnt air in syndication, I can make the sacrifice. I dont want to -- but it's all I'll get.