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TVFactFan · 04-12-2003, 01:18 PM

She was not spinned off into her own show, Esther Rolle was given her own show. So there is no connection between Maude and Goodtimes. The 1974 Issue Of Ebony Magazine supports this and it states that the characters that John Amos Esther Rolle portrayed on Maude were written off the show so that Amos and Rolle could star in their own show. So these characters were not spinned off into their own show like George and Louise Jefferson were when they departed All in the Family. So there is no longer a mystery about why the Husband had a different name on Good Times, no longer a mystery why Florida was living in Chicago and not the state of NY and n longer a mystery why the Evans were a struggling family when Florida's husband was supposed to have a better job on Maude. So Maude did not spinoff Good Times in 1974, it just said goodbye to the characters Henry and Florida Evans.

boechsner · 04-14-2003, 01:13 AM

And everything you stated, supports the fact that you do not know what a spin-off is.

Which brings me to a question: Why are you so obsessed with trying to denounce Good Times as being a spinoff of Maude? What's the big deal?

TVFactFan · 04-14-2003, 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by boechsner
And everything you stated, supports the fact that you do not know what a spin-off is.

Which brings me to a question: Why are you so obsessed with trying to denounce Good Times as being a spinoff of Maude? What's the big deal?

You must did not read my post. It states in the 1974 Ebony that the Florida and henry Evans characters were big hits on Maude and wanted to GIVE them their own show not spinoff the charaters. So those two characters were WRITTEN Out so that they could give Esther Rolle a brand new show of her own. And that's why it was based in Chicago because it was a different type of show. If Good times was a spinoff it would have still been based in NY. And you asked me what's the big deal? Anyone should be able to see that Good times has nothing at aLL to do with Maude. Now there should be no more discussion about this especially since I explained it was inside the Ebony Magazine. I'm not making this up, i'm just saying that I was right and have been saying Good Times wasn't a spinoff for the longest. I bet if you call Norman Lear, he will tell you the same thing.

Sean Snow · 04-14-2003, 07:41 PM

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You must did not read my post. It states in the 1974 Ebony that the Florida and henry Evans characters were big hits on Maude and wanted to GIVE them their own show not spinoff the charaters. So those two characters were WRITTEN Out so that they could give Esther Rolle a brand new show of her own. And that's why it was based in Chicago because it was a different type of show. If Good times was a spinoff it would have still been based in NY. And you asked me what's the big deal? Anyone should be able to see that Good times has nothing at aLL to do with Maude. Now there should be no more discussion about this especially since I explained it was inside the Ebony Magazine. I'm not making this up, i'm just saying that I was right and have been saying Good Times wasn't a spinoff for the longest. I bet if you call Norman Lear, he will tell you the same thing.

When a person is 'given' a show, that show can be a spinoff. Case in point, some sources state that Audra Lindley and Norman Fell were given their own show in The Ropers. However, TR is obviously a spinoff.

<sarcasm>I guess everything that's ever been done about GT being a spinoff of Maude on specials and in written text is wrong and after all these years someone is finally right.

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TVFactFan · 04-14-2003, 07:50 PM

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Originally posted by Sean Snow

When a person is 'given' a show, that show can be a spinoff. Case in point, some sources state that Audra Lindley and Norman Fell were given their own show in The Ropers. However, TR is obviously a spinoff.

<sarcasm>I guess everything that's ever been done about GT being a spinoff of Maude on specials and in written text is wrong and after all these years someone is finally right. </sarcasm>

Yes the Ropers was a spinoff because t was based in CA, Yes the Jeffersons was a spinoff because it was based in NY, Yes Maude was a spinoff because it was based in NY, Yes Laverne and Shirley was a spinoff because it was based in WI, GOOD TIMES WAS BASED IN CHICAGO And they were poor. The situation of Good Times was completely different, The city was different, and the Husband 's name was different. WHAT ELSE NEEDS TO BE SAID????????????????????????????????

jon123 · 07-24-2003, 06:52 PM

But the name of Esther Rolle's character on both Maude and Good Times was Florida Evans, even though Henry became James and they suddenly lived in Chicago. This really confused things. If they wanted to be clear that Good Times was not a spinoff of Maude and that they were new characters, they should have given Florida a new name.

On the other hand, maybe Norman Lear figured the controversy(it is or is it not a spinoff) would keep people talking about both shows(which it has!)

hawaii five-o · 07-25-2003, 01:42 PM

"The Mary Tyler Moore Show" was based in Minneapolis. "Rhoda" was based in New York City. "Phyllis" was based in San Francisco. According to your logic, "Rhoda" and "Phyllis" are not spin offs because they take place in different cities than "Mary Tyler Moore". Right?

TVFactFan · 07-25-2003, 05:22 PM

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Originally posted by hawaii five-o
"The Mary Tyler Moore Show" was based in Minneapolis. "Rhoda" was based in New York City. "Phyllis" was based in San Francisco. According to your logic, "Rhoda" and "Phyllis" are not spin offs because they take place in different cities than "Mary Tyler Moore". Right?

There were EXPLANATIONS ON WHY RHODA AND PHYLLIS WERE LIVING IN DIFFERENT CITIES!!! THere was no explanation on why Florida was suddenly living in the state of Illinois.

GeeBee · 08-10-2003, 04:08 AM

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There were EXPLANATIONS ON WHY RHODA AND PHYLLIS WERE LIVING IN DIFFERENT CITIES!!! THere was no explanation on why Florida was suddenly living in the state of Illinois.

Go suck an egg. Nobody cares, Sitcom Analyzer. Everyone knows that Good Times is a spin-off and your constant discussion of this point is just making you sound stupider and stupider.

TVFactFan · 08-10-2003, 09:12 AM

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Go suck an egg. Nobody cares, Sitcom Analyzer. Everyone knows that Good Times is a spin-off and your constant discussion of this point is just making you sound stupider and stupider.

I already said GOOD TIMES is not a spinoff, I said everything I had to say. But you are bumping up old threads. I don't even discuss this topic anymore. As far I'm concerned, MAUDE AND GOOD TIMES ARE IN NO WAY RELATED!!!!!!

astro4004 · 12-21-2003, 11:45 PM

GeeBee, funny seeing you here! Are you the same GeeBee from Muppet Central?

Good Times was a great show, spin-off or not. I think if it wasn't a spin-off, though, they'd have changed Florida's name. How many people are there in the world named Florida, anyway? And how many of them just happen to be African-American housekeepers?

I hope Maude gets a DVD release one day. I really dig it, especially the episodes with Florida.

TVFactFan · 12-21-2003, 11:51 PM

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GeeBee, funny seeing you here! Are you the same GeeBee from Muppet Central?

Good Times was a great show, spin-off or not. I think if it wasn't a spin-off, though, they'd have changed Florida's name. How many people are there in the world named Florida, anyway? And how many of them just happen to be African-American housekeepers?

I hope Maude gets a DVD release one day. I really dig it, especially the episodes with Florida.

THank You. Glad to see someone else sees that GT was not in no way connected to Maude.

Pug Lover · 12-22-2003, 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by hawaii five-o
"The Mary Tyler Moore Show" was based in Minneapolis. "Rhoda" was based in New York City. "Phyllis" was based in San Francisco. According to your logic, "Rhoda" and "Phyllis" are not spin offs because they take place in different cities than "Mary Tyler Moore". Right?

Not to mention,unlike Happy Days and Laverne & Shirley,Mork & Mindy wasn't even set in Milwaukee or the 1950s & 60s.So I guess Mork & Mindy wasn't a spin off from Happy Days after all.

Pug Lover · 12-22-2003, 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by Sitcom Analyzer
There were EXPLANATIONS ON WHY RHODA AND PHYLLIS WERE LIVING IN DIFFERENT CITIES!!! THere was no explanation on why Florida was suddenly living in the state of Illinois.

Yes but the character of Mork was first introduced in a dream that Richie Cunningham had.The next thing we knew,Happy Days developed a new spin off.Not only that,but when Mork visited Richie and Fonzie at the Cunningham house for the second time,it wasn't a dream.There was no explanation for how a dream of Richie's suddenly came true either.

TVFactFan · 12-22-2003, 02:42 AM

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Yes but the character of Mork was first introduced in a dream that Richie Cunningham had.The next thing we knew,Happy Days developed a new spin off.Not only that,but when Mork visited Richie and Fonzie at the Cunningham house for the second time,it wasn't a dream.There was no explanation for how a dream of Richie's suddenly came true either.

But Fonzie guest Starred on Mork and Mindy, Maude never was mentioned or appeared on Good Times

04-12-2003, 01:18 PM	#1
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 98,956	There is no longer a mystery about the depature of Florida from Maude because She was not spinned off into her own show, Esther Rolle was given her own show. So there is no connection between Maude and Goodtimes. The 1974 Issue Of Ebony Magazine supports this and it states that the characters that John Amos Esther Rolle portrayed on Maude were written off the show so that Amos and Rolle could star in their own show. So these characters were not spinned off into their own show like George and Louise Jefferson were when they departed All in the Family. So there is no longer a mystery about why the Husband had a different name on Good Times, no longer a mystery why Florida was living in Chicago and not the state of NY and n longer a mystery why the Evans were a struggling family when Florida's husband was supposed to have a better job on Maude. So Maude did not spinoff Good Times in 1974, it just said goodbye to the characters Henry and Florida Evans.
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12-21-2003, 11:45 PM	#11
astro4004 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Dec 21, 2003 Location: Western Pennsylvania Posts: 38	GeeBee, funny seeing you here! Are you the same GeeBee from Muppet Central? Good Times was a great show, spin-off or not. I think if it wasn't a spin-off, though, they'd have changed Florida's name. How many people are there in the world named Florida, anyway? And how many of them just happen to be African-American housekeepers? I hope Maude gets a DVD release one day. I really dig it, especially the episodes with Florida.
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04-14-2003, 01:13 AM	#2
boechsner Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 18, 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI Posts: 2,212	And everything you stated, supports the fact that you do not know what a spin-off is. Which brings me to a question: Why are you so obsessed with trying to denounce Good Times as being a spinoff of Maude? What's the big deal?

07-24-2003, 06:52 PM	#6
jon123 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 04, 2002 Location: Temecula Valley, CA Posts: 395	But the name of Esther Rolle's character on both Maude and Good Times was Florida Evans, even though Henry became James and they suddenly lived in Chicago. This really confused things. If they wanted to be clear that Good Times was not a spinoff of Maude and that they were new characters, they should have given Florida a new name. On the other hand, maybe Norman Lear figured the controversy(it is or is it not a spinoff) would keep people talking about both shows(which it has!)

07-25-2003, 01:42 PM	#7
hawaii five-o Book 'Em, Dano Senior Member Join Date: Jun 27, 2003 Location: At home, eating cereal straight out of the box Posts: 1,406	"The Mary Tyler Moore Show" was based in Minneapolis. "Rhoda" was based in New York City. "Phyllis" was based in San Francisco. According to your logic, "Rhoda" and "Phyllis" are not spin offs because they take place in different cities than "Mary Tyler Moore". Right?