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boblive · 07-15-2004, 02:29 PM

does anyone know whatever happened to the cleaver's 2nd house used in the 1950's "Leave it to Beaver" and the "New Leave it to Beaver" from the 1980s. i know there is a replica at Universial Studios, but you can tell it doesn't look like the original.

1954Boomer · 07-15-2004, 02:42 PM

I remember seeing the original facade of the 2nd house at Universal Studios in California back back in 1990. Not sure whether it is still located there, however. Perhaps some some other savvy viewer will know.

Mark B. · 07-20-2004, 11:45 PM

Great! A subject I can go on and on about! I have lots of boring info on this! Dry as it is, I don't get a chance to spout it often, so here it goes:

A brief history of the Cleaver’s house.

The first thing to remember when talking about ‘the Cleavers’ house’ is that there were actually 2 different houses occupied by Beaver and family during the course of the shows 1957-63 run. During the first two seasons of the show, the Cleavers lived at 485 Maple Drive in the fictional town of Mayfield. During seasons 3 through 6, their new home was at 211 Pine Street, still in Mayfield. In the years since the original show aired, the house at 211 Pine Street has become the one most identified with the show.

Both Cleaver homes existed as interior sets built on a sound stage and exterior facade sets on a studio backlot street. The Maple Drive house facade was part of a residential set street at the Republic Studios (now CBS Studio Center). Today the former Cleaver house is either gone or altered so much as to be unrecognizable.

The latter Cleaver home was and is of course at Universal City Studios in California.
The house and garage facades were constructed for the 1955 Humphrey Bogart movie ‘Desperate Hours’. This was actually a Paramount Pictures release, but it was not unusual for studios to rent each other’s backlots to suit their production needs. A one story bungalow-style house was moved to the end of the street to make room for the new facade. The house was referred to internally at Universal as the “Paramount House”.

In Desperate Hours, the house is largely the same as it would appear 4 years later on Beaver.

The house was changed little to get it ready for filming “Beaver”. A room extension on the garage side was removed as well as a few other small details.

Unlike some, the house exterior was complete and detailed on all four sides to match the interior Cleaver house sets. This meant a greater range of places that a realistic outdoor scene could be done. For this reason, the house and street exteriors were used frequently during the "Beaver" production. 'Stock' shots were done, such as Ward's car arriving home or simple 'establishing' shots of the house during day or night. In addition, most episodes featured part of the action taking place somewhere on the exterior of the house. This gave the show a much more 'movie-like' feel, unlike many sitcoms of the time where the entire show took place on just a few interior sets.

After “Beaver” wrapped in 1963, the facade continued to play minor roles in countless movies and TV shows, usually as just another house in the background.

During the 60s, the house appeared in numerous movies and TV shows- sometimes as a featured locations and sometimes just in the background.

The house landed a starring role again in 1969 through 1976 in TV’s Marcus Welby M.D. This time the front appearance of the house was radically altered to become the home office of the title character.

In 1981, Universal relocated Colonial Street and a few other set streets to the West end of the back lot. The houses were reassembled in a different order on a new Colonial Street- one that had been re-designed to better accommodate the tour trams.

During the move, the original Cleaver’s garage ended up on ‘Industrial Street’- a row of smaller (mostly 1-story) houses. The garage sits next to one of two houses from the original Colonial Street that were re-located to the new Industrial Street in 1981

The Marcus Welby alterations to the house stayed intact until 1983 when it was restored to its LITB appearance for the production of “Still the Beaver”- the CBS television movie-of-the-week that continued the story of the Cleaver family in the 80s. The TV movie spawned a New Leave it to Beaver series that ran until 1989.

During the production of the new Beaver series, there were a few minor differences compared to the original show- none really noticable to the viewer. This time, the garage set was a simple two-sided facade and was located closer to the kitchen-side of the house. The familiar breezeway structure was still there, albeit shorter. The rear of the exterior set was never shot for the new series since there was a tram access road literally 8 feet from the back of the house. Shots of the Cleavers on the back patio were only done on the interiors sets in a soundstage. The Cleaver’s house facade also had the destinction of housing the restrooms for Colonial Street- ironic since in the original series, June always wanted a down-stairs bathroom!

Shooting of the 1988-89 season of “The New Leave it to Beaver” was moved to Universal Studios Florida. The interior sets for the show were packed up and reassembled for shooting at their new home in Orlando, but the exterior house facade stayed behind.

In 1989, the Cleaver house facade was uprooted once again to make room for a new house facade for the movie “The Burbs”. In the movie, the street was named ‘Mayfield Place’ in honor of Colonial Street’s most famous house, even though that house was gone.

The Cleaver house facade ended up in a far corner of the Universal backlot at the end of a barely-paved road off the path of the tram tour. This is where the house sits today in a somewhat neglected state. In the past few years, a few other old facades have ended up in the same small area- including Wally's house from the New Beaver series. These sets are still available for use for film crews, but not longer as part of a grand residential street set.

If you take the tram tour today, your attention will be directed to the Leave it to Beaver House right in the middle of Colonial Street- this is however not the original house. It is the facade built for the 1996 production of the Leave it to Beaver Movie. While similar in style and bearing all the trademark features of the original house (3 dormer windows, garage, bay windows and brick walkway leading to the front door in the center of the house), make no mistake- this is NOT the original house from the TV series. For some reason, the tram tour guides do not make the distinction.

1954Boomer · 07-21-2004, 08:03 AM

Thank you for the update, Mark B.! I remember during our backlot tour of Universal Studios back in the summer of 1990 that we did get to see the street in which the 2nd house was located (as well as the Munster and Psycho houses.) I'm thought that it was located in the original location at that time, but perhaps it was already moved to its new locating by then.

07-15-2004, 02:29 PM	#1
boblive Member First Time Poster Join Date: Jul 15, 2004 Posts: 1	the cleaver's 2nd house does anyone know whatever happened to the cleaver's 2nd house used in the 1950's "Leave it to Beaver" and the "New Leave it to Beaver" from the 1980s. i know there is a replica at Universial Studios, but you can tell it doesn't look like the original.

07-20-2004, 11:45 PM	#3
Mark B. Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Aug 25, 2002 Location: Mayfield USA (Orlando, FL) Posts: 97	Great! A subject I can go on and on about! I have lots of boring info on this! Dry as it is, I don't get a chance to spout it often, so here it goes: A brief history of the Cleaver’s house. The first thing to remember when talking about ‘the Cleavers’ house’ is that there were actually 2 different houses occupied by Beaver and family during the course of the shows 1957-63 run. During the first two seasons of the show, the Cleavers lived at 485 Maple Drive in the fictional town of Mayfield. During seasons 3 through 6, their new home was at 211 Pine Street, still in Mayfield. In the years since the original show aired, the house at 211 Pine Street has become the one most identified with the show. Both Cleaver homes existed as interior sets built on a sound stage and exterior facade sets on a studio backlot street. The Maple Drive house facade was part of a residential set street at the Republic Studios (now CBS Studio Center). Today the former Cleaver house is either gone or altered so much as to be unrecognizable. The latter Cleaver home was and is of course at Universal City Studios in California. The house and garage facades were constructed for the 1955 Humphrey Bogart movie ‘Desperate Hours’. This was actually a Paramount Pictures release, but it was not unusual for studios to rent each other’s backlots to suit their production needs. A one story bungalow-style house was moved to the end of the street to make room for the new facade. The house was referred to internally at Universal as the “Paramount House”. In Desperate Hours, the house is largely the same as it would appear 4 years later on Beaver. The house was changed little to get it ready for filming “Beaver”. A room extension on the garage side was removed as well as a few other small details. Unlike some, the house exterior was complete and detailed on all four sides to match the interior Cleaver house sets. This meant a greater range of places that a realistic outdoor scene could be done. For this reason, the house and street exteriors were used frequently during the "Beaver" production. 'Stock' shots were done, such as Ward's car arriving home or simple 'establishing' shots of the house during day or night. In addition, most episodes featured part of the action taking place somewhere on the exterior of the house. This gave the show a much more 'movie-like' feel, unlike many sitcoms of the time where the entire show took place on just a few interior sets. After “Beaver” wrapped in 1963, the facade continued to play minor roles in countless movies and TV shows, usually as just another house in the background. During the 60s, the house appeared in numerous movies and TV shows- sometimes as a featured locations and sometimes just in the background. The house landed a starring role again in 1969 through 1976 in TV’s Marcus Welby M.D. This time the front appearance of the house was radically altered to become the home office of the title character. In 1981, Universal relocated Colonial Street and a few other set streets to the West end of the back lot. The houses were reassembled in a different order on a new Colonial Street- one that had been re-designed to better accommodate the tour trams. During the move, the original Cleaver’s garage ended up on ‘Industrial Street’- a row of smaller (mostly 1-story) houses. The garage sits next to one of two houses from the original Colonial Street that were re-located to the new Industrial Street in 1981 The Marcus Welby alterations to the house stayed intact until 1983 when it was restored to its LITB appearance for the production of “Still the Beaver”- the CBS television movie-of-the-week that continued the story of the Cleaver family in the 80s. The TV movie spawned a New Leave it to Beaver series that ran until 1989. During the production of the new Beaver series, there were a few minor differences compared to the original show- none really noticable to the viewer. This time, the garage set was a simple two-sided facade and was located closer to the kitchen-side of the house. The familiar breezeway structure was still there, albeit shorter. The rear of the exterior set was never shot for the new series since there was a tram access road literally 8 feet from the back of the house. Shots of the Cleavers on the back patio were only done on the interiors sets in a soundstage. The Cleaver’s house facade also had the destinction of housing the restrooms for Colonial Street- ironic since in the original series, June always wanted a down-stairs bathroom! Shooting of the 1988-89 season of “The New Leave it to Beaver” was moved to Universal Studios Florida. The interior sets for the show were packed up and reassembled for shooting at their new home in Orlando, but the exterior house facade stayed behind. In 1989, the Cleaver house facade was uprooted once again to make room for a new house facade for the movie “The Burbs”. In the movie, the street was named ‘Mayfield Place’ in honor of Colonial Street’s most famous house, even though that house was gone. The Cleaver house facade ended up in a far corner of the Universal backlot at the end of a barely-paved road off the path of the tram tour. This is where the house sits today in a somewhat neglected state. In the past few years, a few other old facades have ended up in the same small area- including Wally's house from the New Beaver series. These sets are still available for use for film crews, but not longer as part of a grand residential street set. If you take the tram tour today, your attention will be directed to the Leave it to Beaver House right in the middle of Colonial Street- this is however not the original house. It is the facade built for the 1996 production of the Leave it to Beaver Movie. While similar in style and bearing all the trademark features of the original house (3 dormer windows, garage, bay windows and brick walkway leading to the front door in the center of the house), make no mistake- this is NOT the original house from the TV series. For some reason, the tram tour guides do not make the distinction.
	__________________ Mark B. Director, Mayfield Historical Society

07-15-2004, 02:42 PM	#2
1954Boomer Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 18, 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 482	I remember seeing the original facade of the 2nd house at Universal Studios in California back back in 1990. Not sure whether it is still located there, however. Perhaps some some other savvy viewer will know.

07-21-2004, 08:03 AM	#4
1954Boomer Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 18, 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 482	Thank you for the update, Mark B.! I remember during our backlot tour of Universal Studios back in the summer of 1990 that we did get to see the street in which the 2nd house was located (as well as the Munster and Psycho houses.) I'm thought that it was located in the original location at that time, but perhaps it was already moved to its new locating by then.