The ego of Usher... - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Dean Winchester · 06-27-2004, 07:14 PM

"He's still got to find his own style and his own swagger - he's not on Usher's level. There can only be one Usher and I'm sitting right here." He continued, "A lot of people compare me to [Justin] and I don't understand why. I was making R&B classics when he was singing bubblegum pop and I had plenty of successful albums. I did the movies, and now he's trying to do movies. I've been in the game for 10 years now." -- on Justin Timberlake

"The way I feel is, everybody wants to be Usher, everybody wants to be Janet - the problem is, we can't be duplicated."

this was just 2 that I saw on a thread about him on another board. The thing I find especially funny about Usher is that he hates Justin Timberlake so much, yet cops his image, he dresses and dances EXACTLY LIKE JUSTIN DOES...

With this ego as well as the fact that people are going to get sick of him because he is frankly too overexposed right now (3 songs in the top 10 is too much, especially when Yeah is the only memorable one of the lot), I can see him going the MC Hammer route in a few years, because he will have lost all his fans. Remember how people got sick of Backstreet Boys by the way they bashed other artists, and when Kevin Richardson opened his mouth and bashed The Beatles... it was the beginning of the end and their careers went to the toilet.

Pop and R&B is not exactly the same as hip hop or hard rock... feuds (like he's tried to start with Madonna, Justin and Britney) are not the same when you're singing fluffy radio ditties that 10 year old girls like... you can't have an Axl Rose or 2Pac style attitude when you're singing songs like Yeah.

isiahthomas · 06-28-2004, 10:46 AM

Why is Usher talkin sh*t about Justin when they were at one of the Lakers playoff games against Minnesota in LA together? Usher does have a big ego. He needs to keep comments about other musicians to himself.

vashti1999 · 06-28-2004, 12:25 PM

Justin and Usher were at a Laker game after these comments were made, so any beef between the two has probably been squashed. It's amazing though, the kind of success Usher's having with his latest album. I might have an ego too if I was doing as well as he is. I agree, the arrogance is a turn off.

Jrnygrl · 06-28-2004, 12:31 PM

I am not a big Usher fan, but wasn't he around before Justin Timberlake??? And I think it is Timberlake who is trying to copy Usher. JMO!

vashti1999 · 06-28-2004, 01:16 PM

I don't think either one of them has such an original style that one is copying from the other. They both really want to be (the old) Michael Jackson anyway.

Dean Winchester · 06-28-2004, 02:29 PM

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Originally posted by Jrnygrl
I am not a big Usher fan, but wasn't he around before Justin Timberlake??? And I think it is Timberlake who is trying to copy Usher. JMO!

you're missing the bigger picture...

they're both trying to copy Michael Jackson, but if you notice Usher's attire now, compared to 2-3 years ago, you can see he dresses more like Justin now than he did then, so if anything. he did take pointers from the Justified album's success.

Usher wasn't around THAT LONG before Justin, he got big in late 97, N'Sync got big in early 98... and both of them were arouind 3-4 years before that happened. Usher is just trying to be hardcore except he forgets that r&b music isn't the same as either hardcore hip hop or punk or heavy metal, in which feuds occur all the time.

USTVFanFromUK · 06-28-2004, 02:37 PM

According to Usher "Confessions" is the "Thriller" of this decade. LOL! What a silly bint! At the end of its run I see "Confessions" selling at least 6 million tops and that's it.

To be fair though Justin's another one with an ego out of control. I'd like to smack both Usher and Justin around with a hammer.

Dean Winchester · 06-28-2004, 02:40 PM

well, problems people are having with Usher's ego isn't just with Justin (I can care less about Justin Timberlake), but just the all in all "I'm God!!!" attitude he has, he's had a few hit records and now he's all Mr. Cocky, and then he starts going around and slamming contemporary rival artists (Justin, Britney) as well as ICONS who have had more memorable tracks on one album than Usher's had in his ouvere (Madonna), while also proclaiming that he is going to take Michael Jackson's place, etc... Also the "I saved music" bit he had when Confessions sold over 1,000,000 it's first week, even tho Norah Jones' album ALSO did that a few weeks earlier.

Yes, Usher is wildly successful right now, but it wouldn't hurt him one bit if he acted a little more humble. The "I'm God" attitude has ruined respect artists like Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston and Barbra Streisand may have had at one point, and even Madonna is now apologizing for her ego in the early 90's.

Usher is just really lucky right now, none of the current batch of singles he has out are anywhere as good as the songs he had for 8701.

Fez619 · 06-28-2004, 09:38 PM

I like both Usher's, & Justin's music. I don't prefer it but I don't mind it. Through out the history of music there has always been people who take things from other musicians. Like Ja Rule with 2pac. Well, there has been a lot of 2pac biters including Biggie. No where near as someone like Ja Rule but a little bit. But I doubt Usher came up with all his dancing himself. They were both influenced by Michael Jackson, when I could bare to look at him. But, I think Usher needs to tone down on the ego, even though everyone has one just to a certain extent.

isiahthomas · 06-29-2004, 09:46 AM

I betcha ya'll don't remember Usher when he first came out. He had a song on the Poetic Justice soundtrack in 93 called Call Me A Mack. He must've been about 14-15 yrs old back then. Poetic Justice movie is with Janet Jackson & 2Pac for those who don't know.

Dean Winchester · 06-29-2004, 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by isiahthomas
I betcha ya'll don't remember Usher when he first came out. He had a song on the Poetic Justice soundtrack in 93 called Call Me A Mack. He must've been about 14-15 yrs old back then. Poetic Justice movie is with Janet Jackson & 2Pac for those who don't know.

I know he's been around a long time, I remember seeing the video on MTV-2 once... and the funny part is, seeing Usher back then was similar to seeing a flashback on Beavis And Butt-Head when they'd show them a few years younger where they looked the same, but underdeveloped. But still, Usher didn't become huge until the My Way album.

Sad thing is... I remember seeing him giving an interview on MTV in 98, when My Way was hot, and he seemed like such a nice guy... yet now he's a male Whitney Houston/Barbra Streisand, I wonder what went wrong

06-27-2004, 07:14 PM	#1
Dean Winchester Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 28, 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 14,803	The ego of Usher... "He's still got to find his own style and his own swagger - he's not on Usher's level. There can only be one Usher and I'm sitting right here." He continued, "A lot of people compare me to [Justin] and I don't understand why. I was making R&B classics when he was singing bubblegum pop and I had plenty of successful albums. I did the movies, and now he's trying to do movies. I've been in the game for 10 years now." -- on Justin Timberlake "The way I feel is, everybody wants to be Usher, everybody wants to be Janet - the problem is, we can't be duplicated." this was just 2 that I saw on a thread about him on another board. The thing I find especially funny about Usher is that he hates Justin Timberlake so much, yet cops his image, he dresses and dances EXACTLY LIKE JUSTIN DOES... With this ego as well as the fact that people are going to get sick of him because he is frankly too overexposed right now (3 songs in the top 10 is too much, especially when Yeah is the only memorable one of the lot), I can see him going the MC Hammer route in a few years, because he will have lost all his fans. Remember how people got sick of Backstreet Boys by the way they bashed other artists, and when Kevin Richardson opened his mouth and bashed The Beatles... it was the beginning of the end and their careers went to the toilet. Pop and R&B is not exactly the same as hip hop or hard rock... feuds (like he's tried to start with Madonna, Justin and Britney) are not the same when you're singing fluffy radio ditties that 10 year old girls like... you can't have an Axl Rose or 2Pac style attitude when you're singing songs like Yeah.

06-28-2004, 12:25 PM	#3
vashti1999 NY METS - #1 Forum Fanatic Join Date: Oct 14, 2003 Location: The world's greatest city - New York City Posts: 11,404	Justin and Usher were at a Laker game after these comments were made, so any beef between the two has probably been squashed. It's amazing though, the kind of success Usher's having with his latest album. I might have an ego too if I was doing as well as he is. I agree, the arrogance is a turn off.
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06-28-2004, 10:46 AM	#2
isiahthomas Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Aug 20, 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 10,704	Why is Usher talkin sh*t about Justin when they were at one of the Lakers playoff games against Minnesota in LA together? Usher does have a big ego. He needs to keep comments about other musicians to himself.

06-28-2004, 12:31 PM	#4
Jrnygrl Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 03, 2003 Location: wheel in the sky Posts: 4,540	I am not a big Usher fan, but wasn't he around before Justin Timberlake??? And I think it is Timberlake who is trying to copy Usher. JMO!

06-28-2004, 01:16 PM	#5
vashti1999 NY METS - #1 Forum Fanatic Join Date: Oct 14, 2003 Location: The world's greatest city - New York City Posts: 11,404	I don't think either one of them has such an original style that one is copying from the other. They both really want to be (the old) Michael Jackson anyway.

06-28-2004, 02:37 PM	#7
USTVFanFromUK Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 24, 2004 Posts: 553	According to Usher "Confessions" is the "Thriller" of this decade. LOL! What a silly bint! At the end of its run I see "Confessions" selling at least 6 million tops and that's it. To be fair though Justin's another one with an ego out of control. I'd like to smack both Usher and Justin around with a hammer.

06-28-2004, 02:40 PM	#8
Dean Winchester Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 28, 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 14,803	well, problems people are having with Usher's ego isn't just with Justin (I can care less about Justin Timberlake), but just the all in all "I'm God!!!" attitude he has, he's had a few hit records and now he's all Mr. Cocky, and then he starts going around and slamming contemporary rival artists (Justin, Britney) as well as ICONS who have had more memorable tracks on one album than Usher's had in his ouvere (Madonna), while also proclaiming that he is going to take Michael Jackson's place, etc... Also the "I saved music" bit he had when Confessions sold over 1,000,000 it's first week, even tho Norah Jones' album ALSO did that a few weeks earlier. Yes, Usher is wildly successful right now, but it wouldn't hurt him one bit if he acted a little more humble. The "I'm God" attitude has ruined respect artists like Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston and Barbra Streisand may have had at one point, and even Madonna is now apologizing for her ego in the early 90's. Usher is just really lucky right now, none of the current batch of singles he has out are anywhere as good as the songs he had for 8701.

06-28-2004, 09:38 PM	#9
Fez619 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jan 22, 2004 Posts: 99	I like both Usher's, & Justin's music. I don't prefer it but I don't mind it. Through out the history of music there has always been people who take things from other musicians. Like Ja Rule with 2pac. Well, there has been a lot of 2pac biters including Biggie. No where near as someone like Ja Rule but a little bit. But I doubt Usher came up with all his dancing himself. They were both influenced by Michael Jackson, when I could bare to look at him. But, I think Usher needs to tone down on the ego, even though everyone has one just to a certain extent.

06-29-2004, 09:46 AM	#10
isiahthomas Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Aug 20, 2002 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 10,704	I betcha ya'll don't remember Usher when he first came out. He had a song on the Poetic Justice soundtrack in 93 called Call Me A Mack. He must've been about 14-15 yrs old back then. Poetic Justice movie is with Janet Jackson & 2Pac for those who don't know.