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comet97 · 06-11-2004, 01:30 PM

I was watching the ep "Wally's Test" last night, and could not believe a teacher would permit students to wash their hands during a test.
That would have never been permitted in my school.
I can understand if, like Wally,you got got ink on your hands,but not just to wash them. (Hello!)

I'm seeing lots of strange stuff like this lately,now that I am really observing more and more.
I love these shows! (smile)

Mijada · 06-11-2004, 06:57 PM

One thing about this ep that bothered me was how stupid Eddie was. Why didn't he just write the answers on a piece of paper and put it in his pocket instead of going through all that trouble of putting them in the paper towel holder?

Michael [hXc] · 06-11-2004, 07:43 PM

also how can he know the answers when writing them on the piece of paper but not know them on the actual test?

comet97 · 06-11-2004, 09:03 PM

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Originally posted by BeaverFan5
also how can he know the answers when writing them on the piece of paper but not know them on the actual test?

How did they 'know' what questions were going to be on that test anyway?
Anything for an episode I guess. (LOL)

HaskellGirl · 06-12-2004, 02:25 AM

I don't think any teacher would let students just leave to go wash their hands in the middle of an exam...unless it was a case like Wally's, where he obviously needed to clean up. But I think some teachers may allow students to go use the restroom in an emergency...pretty naiive, but I guess sometims you have to trust the students. Anyway, I think what happened in this episode is that the teacher already found the cheating on the paper towels, so he had no problem letting Eddie go, just to wash his hands. If you look at him right before he says that Eddie can go, it seems like he's going to say "no" at first, but then rethinks it and lets him go.

But I think its really funny how when they are looking at the scores, Lumpy and Wally's scores just happen to be highlighted, so the audience can see them. And what's with listing the scores and giving out the scores in public anyway? That could get quite embarrassing.

David VP · 06-12-2004, 03:38 AM

LITB and "Psycho" link .............

"Mr. Gannon", the teacher in the "washing hands" LITB episode, was played by Frank Albertson -- who was also in Alfred Hitchcock's "Psycho", as the man who had the $40,000 (which was subsequently pilfered by Marion Crane/Janet Leigh).

Interestingly enough, as well, the LITB episode in question ("Wally's Test") was filmed at exactly the same time period in which "Psycho" was being filmed. The Beaver episode airing on 01/23/1960.

Just a hunk of trivia for you kids out there.

Now .... anybody want a "hunk of milk"? I could use a hunk.

comet97 · 06-12-2004, 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by HaskellGirl
I don't think any teacher would let students just leave to go wash their hands in the middle of an exam...unless it was a case like Wally's, where he obviously needed to clean up. But I think some teachers may allow students to go use the restroom in an emergency...pretty naiive, but I guess sometims you have to trust the students. Anyway, I think what happened in this episode is that the teacher already found the cheating on the paper towels, so he had no problem letting Eddie go, just to wash his hands. If you look at him right before he says that Eddie can go, it seems like he's going to say "no" at first, but then rethinks it and lets him go.

But I think its really funny how when they are looking at the scores, Lumpy and Wally's scores just happen to be highlighted, so the audience can see them. And what's with listing the scores and giving out the scores in public anyway? That could get quite embarrassing.

Yeah,I guess anything goes on tv huh? Anything for a good show.
I guess they figure,…the public will 'buy' anything we put on the air.

GidgetCleaver · 06-12-2004, 08:42 PM

They probably wouldn't be allowed to post scores publicly now in schools, but they used to do lots of things then that they wouldn't do now.

comet97 · 06-12-2004, 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by GidgetCleaver
They probably wouldn't be allowed to post scores publicly now in schools, but they used to do lots of things then that they wouldn't do now.

There were tons of changes since those days Gidgit.

vze3t9q9 · 06-13-2004, 10:13 AM

I noticed that several episodes had posted test scores shown for any student to see. I hate to be the dumb one and be teased.

hawaii five-o · 06-13-2004, 03:39 PM

When I was in junior high, I had a history teacher who would correct our pop quizzes in front of the class and he would make fun of our scores in front of the class. And, he would give us a pop quiz every single day.

comet97 · 06-13-2004, 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by hawaii five-o
When I was in junior high, I had a history teacher who would correct our pop quizzes in front of the class and he would make fun of our scores in front of the class. And, he would give us a pop quiz every single day.

What a drag. Bummer! LOL

1954Boomer · 06-14-2004, 11:49 AM

I think it it was pretty shameless how teachers would read test scores aloud. I remember when Mr. Foster, Julie's father, really embarrased Lumpy out loud in class when Lumpy failed an English test.

comet97 · 06-14-2004, 02:42 PM

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Originally posted by 1954Boomer
I think it it was pretty shameless how teachers would read test scores aloud. I remember when Mr. Foster, Julie's father, really embarrased Lumpy out loud in class when Lumpy failed an English test.

He probably got a snowball thrown at him after school Boomer.
That's what happened to one of our teachers who embarassed a student once in class. Wham!...right in the head! That kid got expelled when they caught him.
That teacher never did that again! (LOL) He changed his 'tactics' after that.

tdr · 06-14-2004, 08:55 PM

As for "being excused to wash my hands," I think this was essentially a euphemism for more likely reasons/excuses for going to the bathroom; like refined ladies used to say "I'm going to powder my nose." A similar script in the 70's or later would probably have read "May I go to the restroom?"

But however the request was phrased, schools were probably less strict in the 50's and early 60's about students being allowed out of class for a time. In high school in the 70's we might have been allowed to leave class for a few minutes, but we had to carry a 'hall pass' and would be questioned if we stayed out too long. I don't think it was like that in the LITB era, in which Wally once said Mayfield High is on the "honor system" where "if you do anything wrong, you're supposed to squeal on yourself."

But I agree with other posts that all this is almost immaterial as to the silly cheating scheme by Eddie and Lumpy. It's really stupid to put answers on paper towels, even if they were placed minutes later. Also, if they didn't know the test material it seems unlikely they could cover it all written on a paper towel and then remember much of it when they came back into class. And if you are going to hide the answers in the towel dispenser, why not at least write them on regular notebook paper and put them in there, as paper towels are hard to write on clearly.

But if 2 guys were going to scheme to cheat together, the thing to do is for both of them to make notes and hide them on their persons-- pockets or whatever-- and if the teacher was one who did watch them closely, then maybe to make an excuse to leave the room. If the school did allow students to leave the room [unattended], then the teacher would probably not want to argue with them while a test was going on, so it might make a few points difference in grade. But the overall scheme wouldn't turn a D into an A or B+.

06-11-2004, 01:30 PM	#1
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06-11-2004, 07:43 PM	#3
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06-11-2004, 06:57 PM	#2
Mijada Spencers mom Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 02, 2001 Location: eastern US Posts: 4,093	One thing about this ep that bothered me was how stupid Eddie was. Why didn't he just write the answers on a piece of paper and put it in his pocket instead of going through all that trouble of putting them in the paper towel holder?

06-12-2004, 02:25 AM	#5
HaskellGirl Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 15, 2002 Posts: 590	I don't think any teacher would let students just leave to go wash their hands in the middle of an exam...unless it was a case like Wally's, where he obviously needed to clean up. But I think some teachers may allow students to go use the restroom in an emergency...pretty naiive, but I guess sometims you have to trust the students. Anyway, I think what happened in this episode is that the teacher already found the cheating on the paper towels, so he had no problem letting Eddie go, just to wash his hands. If you look at him right before he says that Eddie can go, it seems like he's going to say "no" at first, but then rethinks it and lets him go. But I think its really funny how when they are looking at the scores, Lumpy and Wally's scores just happen to be highlighted, so the audience can see them. And what's with listing the scores and giving out the scores in public anyway? That could get quite embarrassing.

06-12-2004, 03:38 AM	#6
David VP Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 29, 2004 Posts: 310	LITB and "Psycho" link ............. "Mr. Gannon", the teacher in the "washing hands" LITB episode, was played by Frank Albertson -- who was also in Alfred Hitchcock's "Psycho", as the man who had the $40,000 (which was subsequently pilfered by Marion Crane/Janet Leigh). Interestingly enough, as well, the LITB episode in question ("Wally's Test") was filmed at exactly the same time period in which "Psycho" was being filmed. The Beaver episode airing on 01/23/1960. Just a hunk of trivia for you kids out there. Now .... anybody want a "hunk of milk"? I could use a hunk.

06-12-2004, 08:42 PM	#8
GidgetCleaver Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 07, 2002 Posts: 85	They probably wouldn't be allowed to post scores publicly now in schools, but they used to do lots of things then that they wouldn't do now.

06-13-2004, 10:13 AM	#10
vze3t9q9 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 31, 2003 Location: ROCKCOVE Posts: 548	I noticed that several episodes had posted test scores shown for any student to see. I hate to be the dumb one and be teased.

06-13-2004, 03:39 PM	#11
hawaii five-o Book 'Em, Dano Senior Member Join Date: Jun 27, 2003 Location: At home, eating cereal straight out of the box Posts: 1,406	When I was in junior high, I had a history teacher who would correct our pop quizzes in front of the class and he would make fun of our scores in front of the class. And, he would give us a pop quiz every single day.

06-14-2004, 11:49 AM	#13
1954Boomer Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 18, 2003 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 482	I think it it was pretty shameless how teachers would read test scores aloud. I remember when Mr. Foster, Julie's father, really embarrased Lumpy out loud in class when Lumpy failed an English test.

06-14-2004, 08:55 PM	#15
tdr Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 23, 2001 Posts: 1,454	As for "being excused to wash my hands," I think this was essentially a euphemism for more likely reasons/excuses for going to the bathroom; like refined ladies used to say "I'm going to powder my nose." A similar script in the 70's or later would probably have read "May I go to the restroom?" But however the request was phrased, schools were probably less strict in the 50's and early 60's about students being allowed out of class for a time. In high school in the 70's we might have been allowed to leave class for a few minutes, but we had to carry a 'hall pass' and would be questioned if we stayed out too long. I don't think it was like that in the LITB era, in which Wally once said Mayfield High is on the "honor system" where "if you do anything wrong, you're supposed to squeal on yourself." But I agree with other posts that all this is almost immaterial as to the silly cheating scheme by Eddie and Lumpy. It's really stupid to put answers on paper towels, even if they were placed minutes later. Also, if they didn't know the test material it seems unlikely they could cover it all written on a paper towel and then remember much of it when they came back into class. And if you are going to hide the answers in the towel dispenser, why not at least write them on regular notebook paper and put them in there, as paper towels are hard to write on clearly. But if 2 guys were going to scheme to cheat together, the thing to do is for both of them to make notes and hide them on their persons-- pockets or whatever-- and if the teacher was one who did watch them closely, then maybe to make an excuse to leave the room. If the school did allow students to leave the room [unattended], then the teacher would probably not want to argue with them while a test was going on, so it might make a few points difference in grade. But the overall scheme wouldn't turn a D into an A or B+.