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Dean Winchester · 05-13-2004, 07:16 PM

am I the only person who thinks that CBS is kind of being disrespectful by airing NEW episodes of CSI up against the series finales of Frasier and Friends?

I remember when Cheers ended, the other 3 (at the time) networks aired movies and reruns the night of the Cheers series finale, because they knew it was NBC's night. For two weeks in a row, the two biggest sitcoms NBC's had for the past decade have ended, and CBS decides to air CSI against it, instead of just sucking it up and letting another network win for those 2 weeks, because you don't get shows on the level of Friends and Frasier ending every week. Both series were massive sitcoms and the other channels have been respectful knowing that most people will be watching NBC that night.

Let's hope that when CSI airs it's final episode, NBC pays them back by airing a fresh episode of whatever their hot series of the time will be up against it.

TJL · 05-13-2004, 07:22 PM

Unfortunatly, all's fair in love and Network programming.

barwars · 05-13-2004, 07:25 PM

I think its completely disrespectful.
Especially seeing that they are heavily promoting the "Survivor: America's Tribal Council"

ohh well, not that it matters, as long as I get to see the finale of Frasier.

vashti1999 · 05-13-2004, 07:27 PM

I don't think it's being disrespectful. It's sweeps months and the networks are all about ratings and money. CSI is CBS' biggest show, so I don't blame them for not bowing to what another network is doing. It's all about competition, make the other network earn it.

Dean Winchester · 05-13-2004, 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by barwars88
I think its completely disrespectful.
Especially seeing that they are heavily promoting the "Survivor: America's Tribal Council"

ohh well, not that it matters, as long as I get to see the finale of Frasier.

oh well, if NBC has a hit series next season, let's hope they schedule it up against the Everybody Loves Raymond series finale, give CBS a dose of their own medicine, lol

barwars · 05-13-2004, 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
oh well, if NBC has a hit series next season, let's hope they schedule it up against the Everybody Loves Raymond series finale, give CBS a dose of their own medicine, lol

Unlike Friends.... Everybody Loves Raymond is one show I will NOT be having a change of opinion on.

Dean Winchester · 05-13-2004, 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by vashti1999
I don't think it's being disrespectful. It's sweeps months and the networks are all about ratings and money. CSI is CBS' biggest show, so I don't blame them for not bowing to what another network is doing. It's all about competition, make the other network earn it.

but why when shows like Seinfeld and Cheers ended, CBS was nice enough to show respect to them. They should move CSI to another night if they insist on airing a new episode this week. The end of Frasier and Friends are the biggest losses NBC's had since Seinfeld ended 6 years ago. ABC and Fox are smart enough to know that most people are NOT interested in what they have airing tonight, CBS should do the same. They will have their time next season when Raymond ends

tvfan0101 · 05-13-2004, 07:34 PM

I wouldn't go as far as say CBS is being disrespectful to NBC. CSI is, after all, the highest rated series, right? It is the powerhouse show for CBS. Airing a new episode up against these finales may have been short-sighted, considering the fact that it was a given that Friends would pull in tens of millions of viewers and the same can be said (on a somewhat lesser scale, sadly) for Frasier. CBS could potentially have recieved even better ratings had they aired their new episodes of CSI after the two NBC episodes bow out.

It would have been a nice gesture had ABC and CBS aired telefilms or repeats and it would have been very classy. Never going to happen, though.

FamilyTiesGOP · 05-13-2004, 08:05 PM

I don't think it is being disrespectful at all. I think it is perfectly fine. It is a little thing called MAY SWEEPS right now where all the networks are getting ratings for future advertising dollars. AND not everyone was watching the Friends or the Frasier series finales. You cannot shut down TV for shows going off the air. It isn't like someone died. Everyone should just watch what they want to and leave everyone else alone.

Dean Winchester · 05-13-2004, 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by FamilyTiesGOP
I don't think it is being disrespectful at all. I think it is perfectly fine. It is a little thing called MAY SWEEPS right now where all the networks are getting ratings for future advertising dollars. AND not everyone was watching the Friends or the Frasier series finales. You cannot shut down TV for shows going off the air. It isn't like someone died. Everyone should just watch what they want to and leave everyone else alone.

true, but CBS did air reruns and movies the nights that Cheers and Seinfeld's finales aired. Why change now?

IMO, the ending of a major MAJOR tv series (ala Cheers, Mash, Seinfeld, Friends, Frasier) is comparable to the Super Bowl or the Academy Awards. Other channels do not air new programming, or at least anything that will receive high ratings, on the nights of the Super Bowl or the Oscars... you'd figure the networks would assume the last Frasier or Friends to be on the same level of importance as The Oscars, and show the same respects that the networks give to that.

Hell, if I recall, didn't NBC pre-empt a Friends episode earlier this season and postponed it for a week because it would've gone up against a World Series game? What's different here from the World Series in October?

FamilyTiesGOP · 05-13-2004, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
true, but CBS did air reruns and movies the nights that Cheers and Seinfeld's finales aired. Why change now?

IMO, the ending of a major MAJOR tv series (ala Cheers, Mash, Seinfeld, Friends, Frasier) is comparable to the Super Bowl or the Academy Awards. Other channels do not air new programming, or at least anything that will receive high ratings, on the nights of the Super Bowl or the Oscars... you'd figure the networks would assume the last Frasier or Friends to be on the same level of importance as The Oscars, and show the same respects that the networks give to that.

Hell, if I recall, didn't NBC pre-empt a Friends episode earlier this season and postponed it for a week because it would've gone up against a World Series game? What's different here from the World Series in October?

The only explanation I can make is that television has changed a lot since Cheers and Seinfeld. CBS must feel that they had a chance against these shows of getting good ratings. That is all I can think of. Maybe NBC figured that Friends' ratings would suffer up against the World Series, I don't know. But television is a very competitive cut-throat business.

Just out of curiosity, how did the ratings of the new CSI fare against the last episode of Friends, does anybody know?

Chelsea · 05-13-2004, 08:23 PM

CSI pulled in 20,000,000 viewers (Friends got 50Mil)

tvfan0101 · 05-13-2004, 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by FamilyTiesGOP
Just out of curiosity, how did the ratings of the new CSI fare against the last episode of Friends, does anybody know?

Via Zap2It.com:

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NBC averaged a whopping 23.6 rating/36 share for the night. CBS managed a solid second at 11.4/17.

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The "Friends" finale averaged 29.2/42, with about 51 million total viewers, at 9 p.m. (By comparison, about 76 million people watched the last "Seinfeld" in 1998). CBS' "CSI" was second at 12.8/19.

Going back a few weeks:

5/06 - 12.8/19
4/29 - 16.1/25
4/22 - 13.2/21 (repeat)
4/15 - 14.6/23
4/08 - 12.5/20 (repeat)

benjamoon · 05-13-2004, 10:06 PM

I don't think it's disrespectful

It's not like "CSI" airs Tuesdays at 10 and CBS MOVED it to Thursday nights specifically to go up against "Friends," It is the regular timeslot during May sweeps... of course they'll show a new episode. I think it woulda been disrespectful if they had gone out of their way to compete w/ Friends

Skywalker · 05-13-2004, 10:23 PM

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Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
but why when shows like Seinfeld and Cheers ended, CBS was nice enough to show respect to them. They should move CSI to another night if they insist on airing a new episode this week. The end of Frasier and Friends are the biggest losses NBC's had since Seinfeld ended 6 years ago. ABC and Fox are smart enough to know that most people are NOT interested in what they have airing tonight, CBS should do the same. They will have their time next season when Raymond ends

When Cheers and Seinfeld ended, CBS really had nothing to put up against those shows anyway. I'm sure if they had hits like Survivor and CSI back then, they would have put them up against the Cheers and Seinfeld finales.

05-13-2004, 07:16 PM	#1
Dean Winchester Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 28, 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 14,803	is CBS being disrespectful am I the only person who thinks that CBS is kind of being disrespectful by airing NEW episodes of CSI up against the series finales of Frasier and Friends? I remember when Cheers ended, the other 3 (at the time) networks aired movies and reruns the night of the Cheers series finale, because they knew it was NBC's night. For two weeks in a row, the two biggest sitcoms NBC's had for the past decade have ended, and CBS decides to air CSI against it, instead of just sucking it up and letting another network win for those 2 weeks, because you don't get shows on the level of Friends and Frasier ending every week. Both series were massive sitcoms and the other channels have been respectful knowing that most people will be watching NBC that night. Let's hope that when CSI airs it's final episode, NBC pays them back by airing a fresh episode of whatever their hot series of the time will be up against it.

05-13-2004, 07:22 PM	#2
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05-13-2004, 07:27 PM	#4
vashti1999 NY METS - #1 Forum Fanatic Join Date: Oct 14, 2003 Location: The world's greatest city - New York City Posts: 11,404	I don't think it's being disrespectful. It's sweeps months and the networks are all about ratings and money. CSI is CBS' biggest show, so I don't blame them for not bowing to what another network is doing. It's all about competition, make the other network earn it.
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05-13-2004, 10:06 PM	#14
benjamoon Bewitched Senior Member Join Date: Jun 15, 2000 Location: New York Posts: 1,450	I don't think it's disrespectful It's not like "CSI" airs Tuesdays at 10 and CBS MOVED it to Thursday nights specifically to go up against "Friends," It is the regular timeslot during May sweeps... of course they'll show a new episode. I think it woulda been disrespectful if they had gone out of their way to compete w/ Friends
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05-13-2004, 07:25 PM	#3
barwars .. Forum Star Join Date: May 04, 2002 Posts: 13,273	I think its completely disrespectful. Especially seeing that they are heavily promoting the "Survivor: America's Tribal Council" ohh well, not that it matters, as long as I get to see the finale of Frasier.

05-13-2004, 07:34 PM	#8
tvfan0101 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 29, 2003 Posts: 961	I wouldn't go as far as say CBS is being disrespectful to NBC. CSI is, after all, the highest rated series, right? It is the powerhouse show for CBS. Airing a new episode up against these finales may have been short-sighted, considering the fact that it was a given that Friends would pull in tens of millions of viewers and the same can be said (on a somewhat lesser scale, sadly) for Frasier. CBS could potentially have recieved even better ratings had they aired their new episodes of CSI after the two NBC episodes bow out. It would have been a nice gesture had ABC and CBS aired telefilms or repeats and it would have been very classy. Never going to happen, though.

05-13-2004, 08:05 PM	#9
FamilyTiesGOP _ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 28, 2003 Posts: 1,631	I don't think it is being disrespectful at all. I think it is perfectly fine. It is a little thing called MAY SWEEPS right now where all the networks are getting ratings for future advertising dollars. AND not everyone was watching the Friends or the Frasier series finales. You cannot shut down TV for shows going off the air. It isn't like someone died. Everyone should just watch what they want to and leave everyone else alone.

05-13-2004, 08:23 PM	#12
Chelsea Semi-retired Forum Veteran Join Date: Jan 07, 2001 Location: Washington Posts: 5,726	CSI pulled in 20,000,000 viewers (Friends got 50Mil)