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FamilyTiesGOP · 05-02-2004, 06:31 PM

I really dislike Windows XP. It seems to me that there are more glitches in it than Windows 98. Anyway, you're right when you improperly shut down, there is no message with XP. The same thing happens to me when I have to shut down. Sometimes I get so angry with my computer when it freezes for no reason. I usually use control+alt+delete to end frozen programs. When I need to totally shut down, I usually just press the button. It is MUCH quicker shutting down that way than with the buttons.

Brent88 · 05-02-2004, 06:58 PM

I've never known of a way to shut down a computer properly once it freezes, regardless of what software it runs on. My computer doesn't freeze up(and it has Windows XP). My old computer(with Windows 98) for the last few months we had it would freeze up every 5 to 10 minutes. Very annoying.

Sometimes computers can be a pain in the ***.

The internet is slow here today. It's been like this for an hour and a half. Stuff loads, but it takes longer than it should. It's gotten better here recently. When it first started pages wouldn't load at all within 2 minutes or so.

robyrob · 05-02-2004, 07:02 PM

sounds like you have a misbehaving program or driver - what programs do you have running ?

if Windows XP seems to be running less stable than 98, it is more likely to be as a result of the overwhelmingly greater amount of badly written spyware and number of viruses and trojans it has to deal with; it is a much more stable OS than 98.

Penny Lane · 05-02-2004, 07:05 PM

When your computer freezes try hitting these keys.............W-I-N 4 times. It usually works for me! I don't know why but it does work!

Brent88 · 05-02-2004, 07:32 PM

OS simply means Operating System which is Windows 98, Windows XP, etc.

robyrob · 05-02-2004, 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by Jen1989
Normally, I have running AOL and a large print program. I can't use the computer without the LP program. The computer only seems to freeze when I'm online. I haven't had it freeze in Microsoft Word. So, I wonder if it's an issue of conflicting between the online service and XP, it's hard to say though if that's the case.

HOW do you connect to the internet - dial-up?
and do you use the AOL browser? could you try using Internet Explorer once you've connected, and see if that locks up (it might be a problem with AOL, your modem, or something else - it may help to isolate it by trying something different)

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I hope it's not because of viruses,

do you use an up-to-date Antivirus program?
if not you can click on one of the links in my signature for AVG or AntiVir - two excellent free antivirus programs
with the number of viruses and other nasty things out there, it really would be a mistake to NOT use Antivirus software

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and I've never used spyware, so I don't think that's the reason.

you dont use Spyware - Spyware uses you, installing itself usually without your knowledge - click on one of the links in my signature for Spybot or AdAware, download and run it, you may be surprised to find out exactly how much Spyware you are running

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What does OS mean?

Operating System - referring to which version of Windows (or if you use Linux, Mac or something else) you use

Kazza · 05-02-2004, 07:54 PM

There is a virus right now that is causing this situation more than likely

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...s&sid=96001018

robyrob · 05-02-2004, 08:15 PM

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Originally posted by Jen1989
I use a local connection. For the past five and half years I used dial up and finally had a local connection in Jan.

so that means you are on cable or DSL, and you are connected all the time, but you said it only locks up when you are using AOL/ on the internet?

i still think you should check for viruses and spyware before you try anything else, they would be the most likely causes of the type of problem you are having

Brent88 · 05-02-2004, 08:39 PM

Defintely Dial-up. DSL/Cable requires no "connecting".

Another way to tell is if your phone is busy when your hooked up. If it is, it is dial-up(unless you have 2 lines).

PZelda · 05-02-2004, 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by Jen1989
I guess I still have dial up then. I don't have cable or DSL. I'm only connected to the internet when I sign on.

Are you sure? When you start to log on to the internet, do you have to click on a modem icon and then press "Connect" and then it says "Dialing..."? If so, you're on dialup. If you have cable or DSL, it's connected 24/7 so you don't have to click on a modem icon to connect

BTW, I have XP and have been using it since it was released in 2001. I got it in November 2001, and I had a lot of problems with it on my first computer at first, because my computer was really old (I should've known it wouldn't be able to handle XP correctly). I got a memory upgrade in 2002, and that seemed to help it a bit...but I still had a lot of problems. That same computer died in November 2003 and I'm on another computer I've had since December 2003 and I've had ZERO problems.

Brent88 · 05-02-2004, 08:40 PM

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Originally posted by Jen1989
That's interesting, I had not heard about that yet.

quote: It attacks through a flaw in recent versions of Microsoft's Windows -- Windows 2000 (news - web sites), Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP (news - web sites) -- and causes the computer to shut down, then rebooting it, repeating the process several times. But it appears to do no lasting damage.

This happened to my computer three years ago in July 2001. I'll never forget, it was so strange. Scared the living daylights out of me. It kept shutting itself down and booting back up, and then opened up AOL, and signed on, somehow knowing my password, and I don't save my password, I type it in each time.

Anyone else have this happen?

What on earth?

Hollow · 05-02-2004, 08:42 PM

i always just turn off my computer without shutting it down. i've been doing it for years, i dont see why its so bad.

FamilyTiesGOP · 05-02-2004, 08:42 PM

I would do the following:

download a free spyware detecter and have it delete any spyware:

http://www.lavasoft.de/software/adaware/

This one is good, free, and takes only a few minutes to download even on dial up. Then have it scan your computer and delete the bad files. I have found over 100 spywares since I downloaded it a few weeks ago.

go to the Microsoft Windows update page and download and install all critical security fixes for Windows XP

Update your virus and FIREWALL protection and run the anti-virus software to look for Trojans and viruses.

You shouldn't have any more problems unless it is an AOL problem or a basic computer problem.

AtlantaBravesFan29 · 05-02-2004, 08:46 PM

Do you have a backup recovery disk??? I have had trouble recently in which my computer has frozen or I can't get on,so I turn the computer off and put in the recovery disk and wait about 20 minutes for all systems to come back and everything comes back to the way it was before.

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05-02-2004, 06:31 PM	#2
FamilyTiesGOP _ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 28, 2003 Posts: 1,631	I really dislike Windows XP. It seems to me that there are more glitches in it than Windows 98. Anyway, you're right when you improperly shut down, there is no message with XP. The same thing happens to me when I have to shut down. Sometimes I get so angry with my computer when it freezes for no reason. I usually use control+alt+delete to end frozen programs. When I need to totally shut down, I usually just press the button. It is MUCH quicker shutting down that way than with the buttons.

05-02-2004, 06:58 PM	#3
Brent88 Member Forum Star Join Date: Aug 01, 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 16,174	I've never known of a way to shut down a computer properly once it freezes, regardless of what software it runs on. My computer doesn't freeze up(and it has Windows XP). My old computer(with Windows 98) for the last few months we had it would freeze up every 5 to 10 minutes. Very annoying. Sometimes computers can be a pain in the ***. The internet is slow here today. It's been like this for an hour and a half. Stuff loads, but it takes longer than it should. It's gotten better here recently. When it first started pages wouldn't load at all within 2 minutes or so.

05-02-2004, 07:32 PM	#6
Brent88 Member Forum Star Join Date: Aug 01, 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 16,174	OS simply means Operating System which is Windows 98, Windows XP, etc.

05-02-2004, 07:54 PM	#8
Kazza Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Oct 17, 2003 Posts: 3,244	There is a virus right now that is causing this situation more than likely http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...s&sid=96001018

05-02-2004, 08:39 PM	#10
Brent88 Member Forum Star Join Date: Aug 01, 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 16,174	Defintely Dial-up. DSL/Cable requires no "connecting". Another way to tell is if your phone is busy when your hooked up. If it is, it is dial-up(unless you have 2 lines).

05-02-2004, 08:42 PM	#13
Hollow Member Forum Superstar Join Date: Dec 16, 2001 Posts: 30,406	i always just turn off my computer without shutting it down. i've been doing it for years, i dont see why its so bad.

05-02-2004, 08:46 PM	#15
AtlantaBravesFan29 Atlanta Braves Fan Senior Member Join Date: Aug 13, 2002 Location: Pleasanton,TX--40 Miles South Of San Antonio Posts: 1,859	Do you have a backup recovery disk??? I have had trouble recently in which my computer has frozen or I can't get on,so I turn the computer off and put in the recovery disk and wait about 20 minutes for all systems to come back and everything comes back to the way it was before.