Frasier, Friends, or Everybody Loves Raymond? - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Chocoholic · 04-28-2004, 05:34 PM

Frasier- I loved the Frasier Crane character on Cheers and I liked Frasier the show the first couple of seasons, but I lost interest. I'll miss the Frasier Crane character though and I hope Kelsey Grammer gets another show soon. Maybe he can do a show with his Simpsons character, Sideshow Bob

Everybody Loves Raymond- I used to love this show, but now I cringe when I see it on. None of the characters have anything nice to say and it's the same jokes over and over again.

Friends- I know it's been on for a decade and has many fans, I don't argue with that. However, I personally never had much interest in it.

Ant-Lox · 04-29-2004, 09:03 AM

Frasier is my favorite out of the three

I hate raymonds voice after a while.

barwars · 04-29-2004, 03:35 PM

"Frasier" -- my second favorite show of all time, only to its parent -- Cheers. The biggest loss to TV since "Seinfeld", IMO.

"Friends" -- no doubt its a good show -- I just think "friends dont let friends watch friends"

"Everybody Loves Raymond" -- I dont know what GOOD to say about this show, one of my least favorites (along with friends)

Dean Winchester · 04-29-2004, 03:47 PM

Friends, then Frasier (it's a good show, I just never liked Frasier as much in Seattle as I did in Boston, I liked Lillith better than Frasier Crain) and then Raymond. I think people who say Friends is the most overrated series on television need to look at Raymond. At least Friends has an attractive cast (as ugly as David Schwimmer is, he's still better looking than Ray or Brad) and can be funny.

barwars · 04-29-2004, 05:41 PM

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Originally posted by BuffySlayer79
Friends, then Frasier (it's a good show, I just never liked Frasier as much in Seattle as I did in Boston, I liked Lillith better than Frasier Crain) and then Raymond. I think people who say Friends is the most overrated series on television need to look at Raymond. At least Friends has an attractive cast (as ugly as David Schwimmer is, he's still better looking than Ray or Brad) and can be funny.

I agree, although I like neither series -- "Friends" is better.
But some about your post that irritates is that people watch shows just because good looking people are in them. ("Friends" for example.... when I ask why its better than "Frasier", most people at school will say "because the people are hot" or something like that)
What happened to the days when you could be funny AND ugly?!

Dean Winchester · 04-29-2004, 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by barwars88
I agree, although I like neither series -- "Friends" is better.
But some about your post that irritates is that people watch shows just because good looking people are in them. ("Friends" for example.... when I ask why its better than "Frasier", most people at school will say "because the people are hot" or something like that)
What happened to the days when you could be funny AND ugly?!

well, to me, neither Ray Romano or Brad Garrett are funny, and to top it off they're both not good at look at either. Kelsey Grammar is not exactly the best looking person in the world, but he IS a great comedic actor. I didn't mean that the only reason I dislike ELR is because the cast isn't attractive (I don't think Patricia Heaton is as pretty as Courteney or Jennifer on her best day either), but kind of why I'd give it Friends a slant over it as well, even if one doesn't think either show is funny.

Hell, Roseanne's one of my all time favorite sitcoms, and neither Roseanne (even tho I do think she got a lot better looking in latter seasons) or John Goodman were exactly models.

AB · 03-24-2007, 10:15 PM

I liked Frasier best, then Friends and Raymond.

Scoobiedoo30 · 03-24-2007, 10:26 PM

Frasier

Brian Damage · 03-24-2007, 10:33 PM

Frasier---One of the smartest sitcoms of all time.

catlover79 · 03-25-2007, 12:04 AM

Friends is a show I never particularly cared for. Frasier, I loved it up until Niles and Daphne hooked up. No suspense whatsoever after that. (I still love the first few seasons, though). I do agree that ELR could be very mean-spirited, but the Barones are so much like my family I have to laugh (we're not QUITE as dysfunctional as the Barones, fyi

). IMHO, Ray Romano and Patricia Heaton were upstaged by the supporting actors: Brad Garrett, Doris Roberts and Peter Boyle. Marie is so much like my late grandmother, and Robert reminds me of me. I'm taller than average and tower above most people I know, I'm the elder of two sisters and am overshadowed by the younger one, and I've had many a horrible date like Robert has. But once Robert married Amy and her family became more prominent, I lost interest. At least Romano & Co. wisely wrapped up production a season later.

BensonFan · 03-25-2007, 12:18 AM

I am a huge Frasier fan. Truthfully I've hardly seen the other two at all to say whether I would like them or not.

Adamantium · 03-25-2007, 02:46 AM

I think they're all good shows and yet all of them lasted too long. I voted for "Everybody Loves Raymond." Just because I can get into the reruns more than I can with "Frasier." And "Friends" even though it's a very popular show, I consider it to me, a guilty pleasure. Maybe it's because I've bashed it for years and then through the DVDs became a fan of it. I don't like just going along with the crowd and watching whatever's popular at the time. But I will admit that it's a funny show. However, I can't stand to watch it on television. If it's not on my DVDs then I don't care to watch "Friends." In other words, I can't just flip through the channels, find "Freinds" and TBS and just start watching it. I have to sit down, get out my DVDs and watch it that way.

icecream · 03-26-2007, 12:44 AM

Frasier is better than Raymond and Friends combined. Kelsey Grammer and David Hyde Pierce are my favorite actors, and the other three cast members are great at their roles. Frasier is my favorite adult oriented sitcom.
Raymond was hit and miss. Some episodes could be really good, and others not so good. Ray Romano's voice is annoying, and the other four cast members are all better actors than him.
I've only seen a few episodes of Friends. It's OK, nothing special.

sunshinefizzy · 03-26-2007, 07:41 AM

Here are the reaons why I pick Raymond out of the three:

1) I never could get into Friends
2) I don't even remember watching Frasier and to be honest don't care to watch it.
3) Ray and Brad, in my opinion, are not only funny but HOT!!! I would so marry Brad.
4) The Barone family remind me of my own family, in fact both sides!!!

ChanandMon · 03-26-2007, 11:54 AM

1. Friends cause of Matthew Perry, I especially love the C&M years
2. ELR

I never liked Frasier.

View Poll Results: Which show do you like best?
Frasier	28	38.36%
Friends	17	23.29%
Everybody Loves Raymond	20	27.40%
I never liked any of them.	8	10.96%
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04-28-2004, 05:34 PM	#1
Chocoholic Member Forum Star Join Date: Dec 01, 2000 Location: Between a rock and a hard place. Posts: 11,235	Frasier, Friends, or Everybody Loves Raymond? Frasier- I loved the Frasier Crane character on Cheers and I liked Frasier the show the first couple of seasons, but I lost interest. I'll miss the Frasier Crane character though and I hope Kelsey Grammer gets another show soon. Maybe he can do a show with his Simpsons character, Sideshow Bob Everybody Loves Raymond- I used to love this show, but now I cringe when I see it on. None of the characters have anything nice to say and it's the same jokes over and over again. Friends- I know it's been on for a decade and has many fans, I don't argue with that. However, I personally never had much interest in it.

04-29-2004, 09:03 AM	#2
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03-24-2007, 10:26 PM	#8
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04-29-2004, 03:35 PM	#3
barwars .. Forum Star Join Date: May 04, 2002 Posts: 13,273	"Frasier" -- my second favorite show of all time, only to its parent -- Cheers. The biggest loss to TV since "Seinfeld", IMO. "Friends" -- no doubt its a good show -- I just think "friends dont let friends watch friends" "Everybody Loves Raymond" -- I dont know what GOOD to say about this show, one of my least favorites (along with friends)

04-29-2004, 03:47 PM	#4
Dean Winchester Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Sep 28, 2003 Location: Louisville KY Posts: 14,803	Friends, then Frasier (it's a good show, I just never liked Frasier as much in Seattle as I did in Boston, I liked Lillith better than Frasier Crain) and then Raymond. I think people who say Friends is the most overrated series on television need to look at Raymond. At least Friends has an attractive cast (as ugly as David Schwimmer is, he's still better looking than Ray or Brad) and can be funny.

03-24-2007, 10:15 PM	#7
AB Member Eternal Member Forum Icon Join Date: Dec 26, 2006 Location: The South Posts: 59,426	I liked Frasier best, then Friends and Raymond.

03-25-2007, 12:04 AM	#10
catlover79 God Bless Val Forum Addict Join Date: May 29, 2006 Location: Bewitched in Ohio Posts: 70,376	Friends is a show I never particularly cared for. Frasier, I loved it up until Niles and Daphne hooked up. No suspense whatsoever after that. (I still love the first few seasons, though). I do agree that ELR could be very mean-spirited, but the Barones are so much like my family I have to laugh (we're not QUITE as dysfunctional as the Barones, fyi ). IMHO, Ray Romano and Patricia Heaton were upstaged by the supporting actors: Brad Garrett, Doris Roberts and Peter Boyle. Marie is so much like my late grandmother, and Robert reminds me of me. I'm taller than average and tower above most people I know, I'm the elder of two sisters and am overshadowed by the younger one, and I've had many a horrible date like Robert has. But once Robert married Amy and her family became more prominent, I lost interest. At least Romano & Co. wisely wrapped up production a season later.
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03-25-2007, 12:18 AM	#11
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03-25-2007, 02:46 AM	#12
Adamantium TVAdam No More Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 11, 2002 Location: Springfield, Ohio Posts: 7,820	I think they're all good shows and yet all of them lasted too long. I voted for "Everybody Loves Raymond." Just because I can get into the reruns more than I can with "Frasier." And "Friends" even though it's a very popular show, I consider it to me, a guilty pleasure. Maybe it's because I've bashed it for years and then through the DVDs became a fan of it. I don't like just going along with the crowd and watching whatever's popular at the time. But I will admit that it's a funny show. However, I can't stand to watch it on television. If it's not on my DVDs then I don't care to watch "Friends." In other words, I can't just flip through the channels, find "Freinds" and TBS and just start watching it. I have to sit down, get out my DVDs and watch it that way.

03-26-2007, 12:44 AM	#13
icecream Cat-tastic and Whiskerlicious Forum Celebrity Join Date: Sep 01, 2006 Location: The Catacombs Posts: 20,608	Frasier is better than Raymond and Friends combined. Kelsey Grammer and David Hyde Pierce are my favorite actors, and the other three cast members are great at their roles. Frasier is my favorite adult oriented sitcom. Raymond was hit and miss. Some episodes could be really good, and others not so good. Ray Romano's voice is annoying, and the other four cast members are all better actors than him. I've only seen a few episodes of Friends. It's OK, nothing special.
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03-26-2007, 07:41 AM	#14
sunshinefizzy Member Senior Member Join Date: Sep 27, 2006 Location: Craptown Posts: 2,054	Here are the reaons why I pick Raymond out of the three: 1) I never could get into Friends 2) I don't even remember watching Frasier and to be honest don't care to watch it. 3) Ray and Brad, in my opinion, are not only funny but HOT!!! I would so marry Brad. 4) The Barone family remind me of my own family, in fact both sides!!!

03-26-2007, 11:54 AM	#15
ChanandMon Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 11, 2006 Posts: 139	1. Friends cause of Matthew Perry, I especially love the C&M years 2. ELR I never liked Frasier.