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Penny Lane · 04-21-2004, 05:09 PM

On todays episode "Mama's Girls" Mama introduced Effie as her sister- in -law Effie Harper. Well that means she is either Carl's sister or was married to Carl's brother?

FamilyTiesGOP · 04-21-2004, 05:58 PM

I am watching that episode tonight. I am glad that we finally heard the truth about Aunt Effie. She is a Harper and not a Crowley. It makes it nice that Thelma cares so much about her considering that they are not any blood relations.

I don't think we will ever know if she was Carl's sister or married to Carl's brother. But wasn't Uncle Roy Carl's brother? And you know Aunt Effie wasn't married to him...

I would guess Carl's sister though. We are probably thinking more about this than the exec producers ever did!

Penny Lane · 04-21-2004, 07:49 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by FamilyTiesGOP
I am watching that episode tonight. I am glad that we finally heard the truth about Aunt Effie. She is a Harper and not a Crowley. It makes it nice that Thelma cares so much about her considering that they are not any blood relations.

I don't think we will ever know if she was Carl's sister or married to Carl's brother. But wasn't Uncle Roy Carl's brother? And you know Aunt Effie wasn't married to him...

I would guess Carl's sister though. We are probably thinking more about this than the exec producers ever did! [/QUOTE

You are absolutely right! Roy was not married I am thinking. No other brother was ever mentioned! So maybe Effie was Carl's "Old Maid" sister? The producers evidently didn't care ,but we do! Right!? This is really important stuff. Didn't the producers realize this?

jterry · 04-21-2004, 09:33 PM

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You are absolutely right! Roy was not married I am thinking. No other brother was ever mentioned! So maybe Effie was Carl's "Old Maid" sister? The producers evidently didn't care ,but we do! Right!? This is really important stuff. Didn't the producers realize this?

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I don't know, But I do think that Effie was Carl's Sister. I guess we'll never really know for sure............

hughpuppies · 04-22-2004, 06:09 AM

When Uncle Roy came back to visit, Thema said to him about having a free spirit and always in a hurry and on the go, and he said he was the one who never had time to settle down and raise an family. So that means Uncle Roy was never married, so that leaves Aunt effie as Sister of Roy and Carl .

Penny Lane · 04-22-2004, 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by hughpuppies
When Uncle Roy came back to visit, Thema said to him about having a free spirit and always in a hurry and on the go, and he said he was the one who never had time to settle down and raise an family. So that means Uncle Roy was never married, so that leaves Aunt effie as Sister of Roy and Carl .

That's what I think too ..

Mystery solved?

TALLguyinKY · 04-23-2004, 04:32 AM

Whoa, whoa! lol

First of all, Effie was a Crowley in the NBC years, and a Harper in the syndicated years; true, in syndication years, we don't know how she's Mama's sister-in-law; there is never any rock solid proof.

And about Carl and Roy---Carl could have had more brothers, just as Mama did. And there may be 2 Uncle Roys in the Harper/Crowley families. There's Roy, Carl's brother, and then the Uncle Roy who lost a finger; and since he was referenced by Grandma Crowley, that was most likely a different Uncle Roy, since Carl's Roy had all 10 of his fingers. lol

So the mystery will always prevail....heehee! Lol!

Cashodeen · 04-23-2004, 04:33 AM

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Originally posted by Penny Lane
On todays episode "Mama's Girls" Mama introduced Effie as her sister- in -law Effie Harper. Well that means she is either Carl's sister or was married to Carl's brother?

Oh weird. I never noticed that. Doesn't Thelma usually call her "Aunt Effie?" Kind of a funny thing to call your sister in law, isn't it?

TALLguyinKY · 04-23-2004, 04:39 AM

Well, Effie was just "different", though---don't forget, she was diagnosed as clinically insane to some degree!

And I'm 99% sure Mama never called her "Aunt Effie" in the NBC years (granted she was only mentioned in 2 episodes), but since Effie was "eccentric" (a.k.a., "crazy", lol), and soooo old ("Aunt Effie? Well she's 3 days older'n God!" "Yeah, what kind of job could she possibly get?"), she was probably just kind of lovingly referred to as "Aunt Effie" by most people in the family. Also, Mama says "Effie" more than "Aunt Effie" upon close examination.

There are always exceptions to the whoe name thing; Naomi called Frannie "Aunt Fran" a few times though she was really her aunt-in-law.

And sometimes in families people call their great uncles or great great uncles "Uncle ____", too.

And who knows, maybe Mama called her "Aunt" Effie more to make herself feel younger! lol

Cashodeen · 04-23-2004, 04:50 AM

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Originally posted by TALLguyinKY
Well, Effie was just "different", though---don't forget, she was diagnosed as clinically insane to some degree!

And I'm 99% sure Mama never called her "Aunt Effie" in the NBC years (granted she was only mentioned in 2 episodes), but since Effie was "eccentric" (a.k.a., "crazy", lol), and soooo old ("Aunt Effie? Well she's 3 days older'n God!" "Yeah, what kind of job could she possibly get?"), she was probably just kind of lovingly referred to as "Aunt Effie" by most people in the family. Also, Mama says "Effie" more than "Aunt Effie" upon close examination.

There are always exceptions to the whoe name thing; Naomi called Frannie "Aunt Fran" a few times though she was really her aunt-in-law.

And sometimes in families people call their great uncles or great great uncles "Uncle ____", too.

And who knows, maybe Mama called her "Aunt" Effie more to make herself feel younger! lol

Lol okay. I had thought Thelma almost exclusively called her "aunt" even when talking to her. I tried picturing my mom calling her *sisters-in-law "aunt" to their face, and that would just be crazy. O' course the way you desribe it (with Effie being so old and all, and it being a "loving" term) it actually makes sense.

*I still don't know if it's "sisters-in-law" or sister-in-laws."

Penny Lane · 04-23-2004, 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by Cashodeen
Lol okay. I had thought Thelma almost exclusively called her "aunt" even when talking to her. I tried picturing my mom calling her *sisters-in-law "aunt" to their face, and that would just be crazy. O' course the way you desribe it (with Effie being so old and all, and it being a "loving" term) it actually makes sense.

*I still don't know if it's "sisters-in-law" or sister-in-laws."

It's "sisters- in- law"

Penny Lane · 04-23-2004, 09:37 AM

Wow, don't we always have some very earth shattering and important discussions on this board?

Cashodeen · 04-23-2004, 05:26 PM

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Originally posted by Penny Lane
It's "sisters- in- law"

All right! I nailed it. Thanks.

Cashodeen · 04-23-2004, 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by Penny Lane
Wow, don't we always have some very earth shattering and important discussions on this board?

We do, we do.

PZelda · 04-23-2004, 05:55 PM

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Originally posted by Penny Lane
Wow, don't we always have some very earth shattering and important discussions on this board?

04-21-2004, 05:09 PM	#1
Penny Lane Butter Pie Forum Icon Join Date: Jul 03, 2001 Location: Beneath the blue suburban skies Posts: 51,246	Aunt Effie.............again On todays episode "Mama's Girls" Mama introduced Effie as her sister- in -law Effie Harper. Well that means she is either Carl's sister or was married to Carl's brother?
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04-21-2004, 05:58 PM	#2
FamilyTiesGOP _ Senior Member Join Date: Oct 28, 2003 Posts: 1,631	I am watching that episode tonight. I am glad that we finally heard the truth about Aunt Effie. She is a Harper and not a Crowley. It makes it nice that Thelma cares so much about her considering that they are not any blood relations. I don't think we will ever know if she was Carl's sister or married to Carl's brother. But wasn't Uncle Roy Carl's brother? And you know Aunt Effie wasn't married to him... I would guess Carl's sister though. We are probably thinking more about this than the exec producers ever did!

04-21-2004, 07:49 PM	#3
Penny Lane Butter Pie Forum Icon Join Date: Jul 03, 2001 Location: Beneath the blue suburban skies Posts: 51,246	[QUOTE]Originally posted by FamilyTiesGOP I am watching that episode tonight. I am glad that we finally heard the truth about Aunt Effie. She is a Harper and not a Crowley. It makes it nice that Thelma cares so much about her considering that they are not any blood relations. I don't think we will ever know if she was Carl's sister or married to Carl's brother. But wasn't Uncle Roy Carl's brother? And you know Aunt Effie wasn't married to him... I would guess Carl's sister though. We are probably thinking more about this than the exec producers ever did! [/QUOTE You are absolutely right! Roy was not married I am thinking. No other brother was ever mentioned! So maybe Effie was Carl's "Old Maid" sister? The producers evidently didn't care ,but we do! Right!? This is really important stuff. Didn't the producers realize this?

04-22-2004, 06:09 AM	#5
hughpuppies Melanie Bernhardt Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 13, 2004 Location: wished I was with the lady in the above picture Posts: 705	When Uncle Roy came back to visit, Thema said to him about having a free spirit and always in a hurry and on the go, and he said he was the one who never had time to settle down and raise an family. So that means Uncle Roy was never married, so that leaves Aunt effie as Sister of Roy and Carl .

04-23-2004, 04:32 AM	#7
TALLguyinKY Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 18, 2002 Posts: 1,439	Whoa, whoa! lol First of all, Effie was a Crowley in the NBC years, and a Harper in the syndicated years; true, in syndication years, we don't know how she's Mama's sister-in-law; there is never any rock solid proof. And about Carl and Roy---Carl could have had more brothers, just as Mama did. And there may be 2 Uncle Roys in the Harper/Crowley families. There's Roy, Carl's brother, and then the Uncle Roy who lost a finger; and since he was referenced by Grandma Crowley, that was most likely a different Uncle Roy, since Carl's Roy had all 10 of his fingers. lol So the mystery will always prevail....heehee! Lol!

04-23-2004, 04:39 AM	#9
TALLguyinKY Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 18, 2002 Posts: 1,439	Well, Effie was just "different", though---don't forget, she was diagnosed as clinically insane to some degree! And I'm 99% sure Mama never called her "Aunt Effie" in the NBC years (granted she was only mentioned in 2 episodes), but since Effie was "eccentric" (a.k.a., "crazy", lol), and soooo old ("Aunt Effie? Well she's 3 days older'n God!" "Yeah, what kind of job could she possibly get?"), she was probably just kind of lovingly referred to as "Aunt Effie" by most people in the family. Also, Mama says "Effie" more than "Aunt Effie" upon close examination. There are always exceptions to the whoe name thing; Naomi called Frannie "Aunt Fran" a few times though she was really her aunt-in-law. And sometimes in families people call their great uncles or great great uncles "Uncle ____", too. And who knows, maybe Mama called her "Aunt" Effie more to make herself feel younger! lol

04-23-2004, 09:37 AM	#12
Penny Lane Butter Pie Forum Icon Join Date: Jul 03, 2001 Location: Beneath the blue suburban skies Posts: 51,246	Wow, don't we always have some very earth shattering and important discussions on this board?