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Kane · 04-12-2004, 08:19 PM

http://www.smdailyjournal.org/articl...&storyID=29512

You may recall the case of Elizabeth Fuentes-Ortiz. As mentioned in an UM segment from the 1992-93 season, she was accused of trying to kill her husband Gilbert Ortiz with a poisoned milkshake. She went on the lam, taking the couple's young son, Jonathan, with her. She was arrested in Mexico in 2000, and Jonathan was soon returned to Gilbert. Two years later, she was convicted of attempted murder, and sentenced to life with the possibility of parole.

As mentioned in a recent article at the link above, her appeal has failed. Click on to the link for more details.

Awsi Dooger · 04-13-2004, 04:21 AM

That case always infuriated me, a wife so evil she poisoned her husband under the guise the "protein shake" would bulk him up. She lied repeatedly about the origin of the shake, so it's appropriate and predictable she invented a claim of self defense during her trial.

But at least it's fortunate her mother is obviously of similar brainpower. Until reading Kane's link, I had no idea Jonathan was retrieved only when Fuentes-Ortiz's mother brilliantly took him to visit his mother while she was in jail.

themaninblack · 04-05-2005, 12:41 AM

did they ever find out why she tried to kill her husband?

JimmyHendricks · 04-05-2005, 02:11 AM

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did they ever find out why she tried to kill her husband?

I honestly have no clue, but perhaps it was because he only was working as a supervisor at a toy store? I mean, that can't pay very well. My guess is he had a big life insurance payoff and was worth more dead than alive.

Of course, the way she tried to kill him, and her behavior afterward ("That man has Jonathan!!") was completely stupid and dumb. She clearly wasn't a "mastermind" killer.

dynoguy88 · 04-05-2005, 02:26 PM

I couldn't agree more, JimmyHendricks. Even the actress who played Elizabeth in the segment was completely unbelievable in the stories she told. I guess that's a situation where limited acting skills came in handy.

nohwheregirl · 04-05-2005, 07:41 PM

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I couldn't agree more, JimmyHendricks. Even the actress who played Elizabeth in the segment was completely unbelievable in the stories she told. I guess that's a situation where limited acting skills came in handy.

You know, i could never figure out whether the actress was really bad or if she was just playing a really bad actress

rerungirl · 04-06-2005, 08:11 PM

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You know, i could never figure out whether the actress was really bad or if she was just playing a really bad actress

Oh my gosh! Last week I had thought about posting a new thread: "Worst actors/actresses on UM." The woman who played Elizabeth Ortiz was going to my pick of bad re-enactors. She looked uncomfortable and was unbelievable during the entire segment. There was also a story about a woman in Florida who embezzled thousands of dollars from her employer (she worked at either a bank or a credit union). When the money came up missing, she begged her employer to give her some time to get the money back and said her father was going to mail her a check. She later skipped town in the middle of the night. Anyway, she did a poor job of acting too...but not quite as bad as the "actress" who played Mrs. Ortiz.

dynoguy88 · 04-06-2005, 08:19 PM

LOL!

This was an exception, though. You needed a bad actress to play Elizabeth for this segment. The woman obviously wasn't too bright in the first place, she wasn't a good liar and she thought of an incredibly stupid way to try and kill her husband. A good actress wouldn't have worked for this segment.

mortytbusybody · 04-07-2005, 03:46 AM

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There was also a story about a woman in Florida who embezzled thousands of dollars from her employer (she worked at either a bank or a credit union). When the money came up missing, she begged her employer to give her some time to get the money back and said her father was going to mail her a check. She later skipped town in the middle of the night. Anyway, she did a poor job of acting too...but not quite as bad as the "actress" who played Mrs. Ortiz.

Oh my god...that's the Lesa Lee case. I totally agree, that actress had the worst Jamaican accent I've ever heard. In one of the commentaries on the DVD's, a director points out that when the actors did a really bad job they would show the filmed footage with Robert talking over the scene. UM would have done better to have made both of these stories one big voice-over.

TracyLynnS · 09-29-2010, 11:52 AM

Yeah, we never get tired of this one.

And to prove it, "That man has Johnathan" is being run yet again today. Keep your eyes glued to the tv for one of UM's most oscar worthy moments. lol

kadrmas15 · 09-29-2010, 10:58 PM

Well you know what is interesting about this case? Not too long before Elizabeth tried to murder Gilbert, the laws were changed in California for attempted murder. Before they were changed, the most you could get for attempted murder was 12 years and under California law, if you behaved yourself in prison you typically would be released on parole after serving half your sentence. The law was changed so you could get up to 25 years to life for attempted murder depending on the circumstances. Certain attempted murders would still fall under the old law but certain types of attempted murder make you eligible for the 25 years to life term.

XCalibur · 10-07-2010, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by themaninblack

did they ever find out why she tried to kill her husband?

I just always figured she was a heartless ***** and wanted out of the marriage and decided to do it the easy way.

DarkDante · 10-07-2010, 05:33 PM

Didn't Gilbert mention in the segment that he wasn't "buff enough" for his wife? I think he said something like "I work out and I lift weights but I could never get big enough for her". I always thought that was the reason behind what she did as ridiculous of a reason as that would be.

TracyLynnS · 10-07-2010, 06:02 PM

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Didn't Gilbert mention in the segment that he wasn't "buff enough" for his wife? I think he said something like "I work out and I lift weights but I could never get big enough for her". I always thought that was the reason behind what she did as ridiculous of a reason as that would be.

I also thought that was her motive.

According to Gilbert, she said that he wasn't her type. If there was no attraction on her part, why did she marry him, sleep with him, and have a kid with him? She had been a pretty woman at one point.... I'm sure she could have gotten a guy with a buff bod (what she wanted) rather than marrying Gilbert and complaining that he was too skinny.

So that makes me wonder how long she had been telling him she wanted him to bulk up and how long he'd been lifting weights to try to change his body type for her. Was this a new thing she brought up so she could just use it as an excuse to feed him that shake, which tasted so awful that she was able to explain away the taste of the poison as just being the flavor of a protein shake?

kadrmas15 · 10-07-2010, 09:55 PM

I don't remember her ever telling Gilbert how it tasted. Remember he never actually drank the shake until the day she gave him the poisoned shake. I would have to know more for sure to know what the true motive was? Did Gilbert have life insurance? If so, how much?

04-12-2004, 08:19 PM	#1
Kane Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 07, 2001 Location: MA, United States Posts: 3,367	Elizabeth Fuentes-Ortiz's appeal has failed http://www.smdailyjournal.org/articl...&storyID=29512 You may recall the case of Elizabeth Fuentes-Ortiz. As mentioned in an UM segment from the 1992-93 season, she was accused of trying to kill her husband Gilbert Ortiz with a poisoned milkshake. She went on the lam, taking the couple's young son, Jonathan, with her. She was arrested in Mexico in 2000, and Jonathan was soon returned to Gilbert. Two years later, she was convicted of attempted murder, and sentenced to life with the possibility of parole. As mentioned in a recent article at the link above, her appeal has failed. Click on to the link for more details.

04-13-2004, 04:21 AM	#2
Awsi Dooger Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 18, 2003 Location: Miami Posts: 1,537	Great, and I hope her parole appeals are denied for decades That case always infuriated me, a wife so evil she poisoned her husband under the guise the "protein shake" would bulk him up. She lied repeatedly about the origin of the shake, so it's appropriate and predictable she invented a claim of self defense during her trial. But at least it's fortunate her mother is obviously of similar brainpower. Until reading Kane's link, I had no idea Jonathan was retrieved only when Fuentes-Ortiz's mother brilliantly took him to visit his mother while she was in jail.

04-05-2005, 02:26 PM	#5
dynoguy88 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 01, 2000 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 3,672	reply I couldn't agree more, JimmyHendricks. Even the actress who played Elizabeth in the segment was completely unbelievable in the stories she told. I guess that's a situation where limited acting skills came in handy.

04-06-2005, 08:19 PM	#8
dynoguy88 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 01, 2000 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 3,672	reply LOL! This was an exception, though. You needed a bad actress to play Elizabeth for this segment. The woman obviously wasn't too bright in the first place, she wasn't a good liar and she thought of an incredibly stupid way to try and kill her husband. A good actress wouldn't have worked for this segment.

04-05-2005, 12:41 AM	#3
themaninblack Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 08, 2005 Posts: 573	did they ever find out why she tried to kill her husband?

09-29-2010, 11:52 AM	#10
TracyLynnS Don't Look Up Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 07, 2009 Posts: 3,107	Yeah, we never get tired of this one. And to prove it, "That man has Johnathan" is being run yet again today. Keep your eyes glued to the tv for one of UM's most oscar worthy moments. lol

09-29-2010, 10:58 PM	#11
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	Well you know what is interesting about this case? Not too long before Elizabeth tried to murder Gilbert, the laws were changed in California for attempted murder. Before they were changed, the most you could get for attempted murder was 12 years and under California law, if you behaved yourself in prison you typically would be released on parole after serving half your sentence. The law was changed so you could get up to 25 years to life for attempted murder depending on the circumstances. Certain attempted murders would still fall under the old law but certain types of attempted murder make you eligible for the 25 years to life term.

10-07-2010, 05:33 PM	#13
DarkDante Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 27, 2002 Posts: 1,569	Didn't Gilbert mention in the segment that he wasn't "buff enough" for his wife? I think he said something like "I work out and I lift weights but I could never get big enough for her". I always thought that was the reason behind what she did as ridiculous of a reason as that would be.

10-07-2010, 09:55 PM	#15
kadrmas15 Retired from Board 03/03/11 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 11, 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,910	I don't remember her ever telling Gilbert how it tasted. Remember he never actually drank the shake until the day she gave him the poisoned shake. I would have to know more for sure to know what the true motive was? Did Gilbert have life insurance? If so, how much?