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hume · 04-05-2004, 12:18 AM

I wasn't very old when I saw "Dick Van Dyke and The Other Woman" on TV, but I distinctly remember at the end of the special Dick and Mary having their arms around each other, recalling fondly their working experiences on "The Dick Van Dyke Show". They remembered how Richard Deacon would sit far away from Morey Amsterdam at script readings, to avoid his ribbing. They then showed a clip from "The Dick Van Dyke Show", with Rob bursting into tears in front of Laura, upset because of something Mel Cooley had said.

Is there anybody out there who remembers this from the special? And is there actually an episode from the show where Rob Petrie is crying? Is my memory playing tricks on me? I have yet to see an episode of "The Dick Van Dyke Show" with this scenario.

Even if the producers cannot place the entire "Dick Van Dyke and the Other Woman" special on DVD because of music right problems, hopefully they could at least show one clip showing Dick and Mary as they looked before Mary went on to do her series (as a direct result of this special).

Thanks in advance.

jehobden · 04-05-2004, 02:05 AM

I have seen this special on tape. What you saw at the end w/ Rob crying was a special take made for the audience during the final season ep "You Ought to Be in Pictures". It was Dick's take on how it would have been if Rob had been allowed to cry about being fired from the picture. He was sobbing through the whole scene, but only the studio audience and the audience of the tv special ever saw it.

hume · 04-06-2004, 09:10 AM

Thanks very much for solving the mystery. Sure sounds like this bit from the special should go on the DVD for Season 5.

ddenoff · 04-14-2004, 09:37 PM

it's a wonderful special for many reasons:

1. i was in it (2 lines)
2. CBS was so impressed with it that they offered Mary her own series...The Mary Tyker Moore Show
3. many original song and dance numbers

#3 is why it has not been aired. Many of the songs were medleys of songs from other shows, such as "Do You Love Me?" from Fiddler on the Roof. The royalties make airing the special or releasing it by itself on DVD pretty expensive.

The Special was my motivation in 1999 to try to bring the Dick Van Dyke show to DVD in the first place. I hope that it can happen in the future.

it's a wonderful show

David VP · 05-31-2004, 09:34 PM

I'd love to have the WHOLE special on DVD some day. But at least we'll be getting a "clip" on the Season Five set.

algebra74 · 05-31-2004, 10:01 PM

I, only 17, have never actually seen this special, but would certainly love to see it. I, for one, wouldn't mind paying say $10-$15 extra for the fifth season boxed set, if we were guaranteed this entire, full length special, and not just a clip or two from it.

This may be out of place here, but I, for one, am very much looking foward to the fifth season boxed set. I don't know why, but I just get the feeling that this boxed set will contain the most extra features of any of the previous four sets. From what I have heard, we may get treated to one more comementary by Rose Marie, ann Morgan Guilbert, and Larry Matthews. I would also like to see Mary Tyler Moore do a commentary with Carl Reiner and Dick Van Dyke for "Coast-to-Coast Big Mouth", but I am not getting my hopes up.

I also have another additional item to add to this post. If the makers of these DVD sets were to decide to realize and additional five-disc boxed set after the fifth season full of bonus features, what all would you like to see included? I would love to see:
1. The Dick Van Dyke Show-Revisited
2. Inside TV Land
3. Day In the Life of Sheldon Leanord
4. More original commercial featuring the cast, as promos for the show
5. Dick Van Dyke and the Other Woman
6. Rehearsal Footage and Bloopers, Outtakes, etc.
7. Dick Van Dyke Show sketch done on Mary Tyler Moore's 1979 variety hour.

David VP · 05-31-2004, 10:16 PM

Hi algebra

........

I would like to have all those items you mentioned.

I'm also hoping that the "TV Land Van Dyke Dyke Special" (from the year 2000) will be featured somewhere on the S.5 set. www.dvdondvd.com still claims that that special, plus "The Other Woman" special will each have its own disc eventually. (However, those blurbs on that site haven't been updated/changed in years....so a grain of salt is needed when reading them.)

Regarding Season Five bonus material ..........

If you click on the link below -- and then place your mouse cursor over the lower-right part of the image, you can blow up that S.5 box cover to read in more detail the S.5 extras.

From what I can piece together (via the Image site and a blow-up of the packaging thanks to the "Walnut Times" site), here are all the Special Features we'll see in the S.5 set .........

> Audio Commentaries Featuring Carl Reiner and Dick Van Dyke for Selected Episodes;
> Audio Commentaries Featuring Rose, Ann, & Larry for Selected Episodes;
> Audio Commentary Featuring Don Rickles (Remembering his "2-Parter");
> Interviews With Cast and Producers;
> The Cast Remembers "Coast-to-Coast Big Mouth";
> Remembering Richard Deacon;
> Cast Memories of the Last Show;
> Cast on the TV Land Awards;
> Emmy Award Telecast Clips Featuring the Cast;
> Clip from Dick Van Dyke and the Other Woman, a 1969 special with Dick and Mary;
> Cast Reunion on 'Comic Relief';
> Sketch From "The Cass Elliott Special", Featuring Dick & Cass;
> Original Commercials Featuring the Cast (??? Not sure about this inclusion, since Image did the same advertising of "Commercials" for S.3--and no commercials exist on that set at all. So I'm dubious about this S.5 "Commercial" claim as well. ???);
> Trailer for "The Art Of Love" (1965 film Starring Dick);
> Network Promotional Spots;
> Promo Spot for "The New Dick Van Dyke Show";
> Photo Galleries for Selected Episodes;
> Collectible Booklet.

Nice batch once again.
But -- The Don Rickles commentary makes NO sense at all here...because his 2-parter was in Season FOUR, not five. Can't figure that one out. He's surely not on a commentary for a S.5 ep., and talking about episodes that have nothing to do with the ep. we're seeing. Maybe a typo. We'll see.

There's the usual Image typo re. the # of episodes for Season Five. Box says 30; but there will be 31. Twice previously (S.2 and 3) the box has the wrong number of shows -- each time listing one too few).

http://thewalnuttimes.com/season5.jpg

algebra74 · 05-31-2004, 10:26 PM

One interesting thing that I am wondering about is the collectible booklet. The previous four have all had a biography done on one of the four lead stars of the show. I am wondering who the biography will be included in the booklet this time. I do not think that it will be on either Ann Morgan Guilbert or Jerry Parris, simply because this is the last one, and I do not think that producers would include a biography of one of them, knowing that they could not include the other. This leaves Carl Reiner (as Alan Brady), Larry Matthews, and Richard Deacon. I do not think that they would do a biography on Carl Reiner, simply beacuse he did not play Alan Brady but in, maybe, one dozen episodes. This leaves either Larry Matthews or Richard Deacon; I just cannot think of which one it shall be.

David VP · 05-31-2004, 10:37 PM

My guess is Deac. I'm doubting it'll be Larry Mathews -- his part is generally too small on the show. IMO, Deac was a more integral (and funny) part of the week-to-week series.

Hey -- It could be a bio on Dr. Phil Nevins, Rob's psychiatrist (Ross Elliott), who was in two episodes.

j/k

algebra74 · 05-31-2004, 10:45 PM

I, too, seem to be puzzled by the back of the DVD sets' having always said "Original Commercials and Promotional Spots". I have only come accross one of these such "promotional spots", which is located on the Season One DVD. From one of your reviews, David, I notice that you have some additional commercials featuring the cast. I just purchased a two-DVD boxed set called "Classic Commercials", and I hope that some Dick Vna Dyke Show commercials are included in this. I am very disappointed to hear that we are not getting all the commercials that they ever did. With that being said, I do not think that we will get to see all of The Dick Van Dyke Show's Emmy Award accepances either. That sure is a shame.

David VP · 05-31-2004, 10:59 PM

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From one of your reviews, David, I notice that you have some additional commercials featuring the cast.

Yes, algebra. It's an "unauthorized" VHS tape from several years ago called "From The Cutting Room Floor" (they weren't even allowed to put "The Dick Van Dyke Show" title on the box cover). It's 24 minutes long, and has a bunch of good outtakes/bloopers -- including a great clip (which is several minutes long) that features Rob deliberately "over-acting" a scene from the S.5 ep. "You Ought To Be In Pictures".

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I just purchased a two-DVD boxed set called "Classic Commercials", and I hope that some Dick Van Dyke Show commercials are included in this.

You might very well find some DvD commercials on there. I have several commercial tapes like that, and many feature Van Dyke Kent ads (many of which are NOT in the Season 2 boxed set). So I know there are lots more that *could* have been included as "Eggs".

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I do not think that we will get to see all of The Dick Van Dyke Show's Emmy Award accepances either. That sure is a shame.

Indeed it is a shame. I was wondering why just ONE clip was in the S.4 set (when the box says "CLIPS", plural). Oh, well.....at least *some* are included. But seeing ALL 15 Emmy acceptance speeches would have been ideal.

SawgrassSteve · 06-01-2004, 08:21 AM

Algebra74,
I agree. I think we should get all the acceptance speeches from the Emmy awards. Why would they hold back? Even if they plan to make one more dvd offerring that we don't yet know about, it would've made more sense to put those speeches on the series collection sets, corresponding with the year they were made.
I love this thread, because it makes me not sound so greedy. I want all TDVDS stuff that's out there, and then some, to be made available to the fans!
Which brings me to another subject. Wouldn't it also be great to have someone compile all of the printed reviews, magazine articles and their photos from the days when the show was airing, into one big "Fanzine" for us fans to collect? I'd love it!

Steve

04-05-2004, 12:18 AM	#1
hume Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 24, 2002 Posts: 68	Dick Van Dyke and the Other Woman I wasn't very old when I saw "Dick Van Dyke and The Other Woman" on TV, but I distinctly remember at the end of the special Dick and Mary having their arms around each other, recalling fondly their working experiences on "The Dick Van Dyke Show". They remembered how Richard Deacon would sit far away from Morey Amsterdam at script readings, to avoid his ribbing. They then showed a clip from "The Dick Van Dyke Show", with Rob bursting into tears in front of Laura, upset because of something Mel Cooley had said. Is there anybody out there who remembers this from the special? And is there actually an episode from the show where Rob Petrie is crying? Is my memory playing tricks on me? I have yet to see an episode of "The Dick Van Dyke Show" with this scenario. Even if the producers cannot place the entire "Dick Van Dyke and the Other Woman" special on DVD because of music right problems, hopefully they could at least show one clip showing Dick and Mary as they looked before Mary went on to do her series (as a direct result of this special). Thanks in advance.

06-01-2004, 08:21 AM	#12
SawgrassSteve Loyal Worshipper Senior Member Join Date: Mar 04, 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,423	Algebra74, I agree. I think we should get all the acceptance speeches from the Emmy awards. Why would they hold back? Even if they plan to make one more dvd offerring that we don't yet know about, it would've made more sense to put those speeches on the series collection sets, corresponding with the year they were made. I love this thread, because it makes me not sound so greedy. I want all TDVDS stuff that's out there, and then some, to be made available to the fans! Which brings me to another subject. Wouldn't it also be great to have someone compile all of the printed reviews, magazine articles and their photos from the days when the show was airing, into one big "Fanzine" for us fans to collect? I'd love it! Steve
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04-05-2004, 02:05 AM	#2
jehobden Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 06, 2002 Location: DFW Area, TX Posts: 2,004	I have seen this special on tape. What you saw at the end w/ Rob crying was a special take made for the audience during the final season ep "You Ought to Be in Pictures". It was Dick's take on how it would have been if Rob had been allowed to cry about being fired from the picture. He was sobbing through the whole scene, but only the studio audience and the audience of the tv special ever saw it.

04-06-2004, 09:10 AM	#3
hume Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 24, 2002 Posts: 68	Thanks very much for solving the mystery. Sure sounds like this bit from the special should go on the DVD for Season 5.

04-14-2004, 09:37 PM	#4
ddenoff Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 28, 2002 Location: new york Posts: 104	it's a wonderful special for many reasons: 1. i was in it (2 lines) 2. CBS was so impressed with it that they offered Mary her own series...The Mary Tyker Moore Show 3. many original song and dance numbers #3 is why it has not been aired. Many of the songs were medleys of songs from other shows, such as "Do You Love Me?" from Fiddler on the Roof. The royalties make airing the special or releasing it by itself on DVD pretty expensive. The Special was my motivation in 1999 to try to bring the Dick Van Dyke show to DVD in the first place. I hope that it can happen in the future. it's a wonderful show

05-31-2004, 09:34 PM	#5
David VP Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 29, 2004 Posts: 310	I'd love to have the WHOLE special on DVD some day. But at least we'll be getting a "clip" on the Season Five set.

05-31-2004, 10:01 PM	#6
algebra74 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 14, 2004 Posts: 337	I, only 17, have never actually seen this special, but would certainly love to see it. I, for one, wouldn't mind paying say $10-$15 extra for the fifth season boxed set, if we were guaranteed this entire, full length special, and not just a clip or two from it. This may be out of place here, but I, for one, am very much looking foward to the fifth season boxed set. I don't know why, but I just get the feeling that this boxed set will contain the most extra features of any of the previous four sets. From what I have heard, we may get treated to one more comementary by Rose Marie, ann Morgan Guilbert, and Larry Matthews. I would also like to see Mary Tyler Moore do a commentary with Carl Reiner and Dick Van Dyke for "Coast-to-Coast Big Mouth", but I am not getting my hopes up. I also have another additional item to add to this post. If the makers of these DVD sets were to decide to realize and additional five-disc boxed set after the fifth season full of bonus features, what all would you like to see included? I would love to see: 1. The Dick Van Dyke Show-Revisited 2. Inside TV Land 3. Day In the Life of Sheldon Leanord 4. More original commercial featuring the cast, as promos for the show 5. Dick Van Dyke and the Other Woman 6. Rehearsal Footage and Bloopers, Outtakes, etc. 7. Dick Van Dyke Show sketch done on Mary Tyler Moore's 1979 variety hour.

05-31-2004, 10:16 PM	#7
David VP Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 29, 2004 Posts: 310	Hi algebra ........ I would like to have all those items you mentioned. I'm also hoping that the "TV Land Van Dyke Dyke Special" (from the year 2000) will be featured somewhere on the S.5 set. www.dvdondvd.com still claims that that special, plus "The Other Woman" special will each have its own disc eventually. (However, those blurbs on that site haven't been updated/changed in years....so a grain of salt is needed when reading them.) Regarding Season Five bonus material .......... If you click on the link below -- and then place your mouse cursor over the lower-right part of the image, you can blow up that S.5 box cover to read in more detail the S.5 extras. From what I can piece together (via the Image site and a blow-up of the packaging thanks to the "Walnut Times" site), here are all the Special Features we'll see in the S.5 set ......... > Audio Commentaries Featuring Carl Reiner and Dick Van Dyke for Selected Episodes; > Audio Commentaries Featuring Rose, Ann, & Larry for Selected Episodes; > Audio Commentary Featuring Don Rickles (Remembering his "2-Parter"); > Interviews With Cast and Producers; > The Cast Remembers "Coast-to-Coast Big Mouth"; > Remembering Richard Deacon; > Cast Memories of the Last Show; > Cast on the TV Land Awards; > Emmy Award Telecast Clips Featuring the Cast; > Clip from Dick Van Dyke and the Other Woman, a 1969 special with Dick and Mary; > Cast Reunion on 'Comic Relief'; > Sketch From "The Cass Elliott Special", Featuring Dick & Cass; > Original Commercials Featuring the Cast (??? Not sure about this inclusion, since Image did the same advertising of "Commercials" for S.3--and no commercials exist on that set at all. So I'm dubious about this S.5 "Commercial" claim as well. ???); > Trailer for "The Art Of Love" (1965 film Starring Dick); > Network Promotional Spots; > Promo Spot for "The New Dick Van Dyke Show"; > Photo Galleries for Selected Episodes; > Collectible Booklet. Nice batch once again. But -- The Don Rickles commentary makes NO sense at all here...because his 2-parter was in Season FOUR, not five. Can't figure that one out. He's surely not on a commentary for a S.5 ep., and talking about episodes that have nothing to do with the ep. we're seeing. Maybe a typo. We'll see. There's the usual Image typo re. the # of episodes for Season Five. Box says 30; but there will be 31. Twice previously (S.2 and 3) the box has the wrong number of shows -- each time listing one too few). http://thewalnuttimes.com/season5.jpg

05-31-2004, 10:26 PM	#8
algebra74 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 14, 2004 Posts: 337	One interesting thing that I am wondering about is the collectible booklet. The previous four have all had a biography done on one of the four lead stars of the show. I am wondering who the biography will be included in the booklet this time. I do not think that it will be on either Ann Morgan Guilbert or Jerry Parris, simply because this is the last one, and I do not think that producers would include a biography of one of them, knowing that they could not include the other. This leaves Carl Reiner (as Alan Brady), Larry Matthews, and Richard Deacon. I do not think that they would do a biography on Carl Reiner, simply beacuse he did not play Alan Brady but in, maybe, one dozen episodes. This leaves either Larry Matthews or Richard Deacon; I just cannot think of which one it shall be.

05-31-2004, 10:37 PM	#9
David VP Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 29, 2004 Posts: 310	My guess is Deac. I'm doubting it'll be Larry Mathews -- his part is generally too small on the show. IMO, Deac was a more integral (and funny) part of the week-to-week series. Hey -- It could be a bio on Dr. Phil Nevins, Rob's psychiatrist (Ross Elliott), who was in two episodes. j/k

05-31-2004, 10:45 PM	#10
algebra74 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 14, 2004 Posts: 337	I, too, seem to be puzzled by the back of the DVD sets' having always said "Original Commercials and Promotional Spots". I have only come accross one of these such "promotional spots", which is located on the Season One DVD. From one of your reviews, David, I notice that you have some additional commercials featuring the cast. I just purchased a two-DVD boxed set called "Classic Commercials", and I hope that some Dick Vna Dyke Show commercials are included in this. I am very disappointed to hear that we are not getting all the commercials that they ever did. With that being said, I do not think that we will get to see all of The Dick Van Dyke Show's Emmy Award accepances either. That sure is a shame.