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This case got to me. I felt the husband was very flat and rather creepy in the interview so I do feel heis likely guilty. People who knew Christysaid she would not have left her children willingly and sicne she was seeing a lawyer about a divorce I feel certain the husband is mixed up in her disappearance.
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I don't know of any updates in the case, but I agree with you. It is so clear to me that the husband is guilty. A few days after she went missing he moved out of their house and sold both their cars! Then the suitcase they found months later, the police think it had been neatly placed there and the husband was able to detail exactly what was in it. Also the babysitter said she didn't see or hear Christy when the husband came home. It would just be normal for a mother to go ask the babysitter how the children were and if everything went alright. All they need to do now is find her body so they can arrest him!
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Do you know the date of the case Crystal?
Also do you know the UM episode number or date so I can look it up? I am really interested in this case but missed those details. So many of these cases took place in the 1980's and that's so long ago one almost thinks many will remain unsolved at this point unless the bodies are found and DNA evidence can be helpful. I sure wish there were new cases on UM as I get so tired of repeats and esp. of viewing already solved cases. (whine whine) |
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I felt like the husband had something to do with it, like Crystal said he knew all the contents in the suitcase. It looked like it had just been placed there. Hopefully someday soon they find a body.
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Could you give me a description of this case, the name Christy Nichols sounds familiar but I don't remember the story.
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it was one of the older cases probably from the late 80's early. 90's. The husband was very wierd looking. She went to the doctors days before and the nurse described her acting like a scared rabbit. The couple was last seen when they went out to drink and shoot pool. The babysitter does not remember the wife comming back in. The next day she was missing. It just does not seem she would run away from her kids. I myself too believe the husband was involved.
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Okay, now it's coming more into focus. When you mentioned that the babysitter didn't remember the wife coming back in, that's when it hit me that I've seen this one before.
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I find it so sad to see such old shows knowing there is nothing new. I mean after so many years there is little hope the person is alive and you worry the killer is going toget off scott free. I hope the husband, if guilty, gets caught by DNA somehow.
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I just watched this case again. I usually will watch these cases repeatedly and then form my opinion. My opinion on this is the husband did murder his wife. There is really no getting past it. He certainly had the motive. His wife was going to leave him, when he found out about it he became enraged and killed her. Maybe he didnt intend it for it to happen or maybe he didnt plan it out. Since it was only two days before her disapperance that she went to the lawyer he probably didnt have too much time to plan it out. He doesnt come off as being the smartest guy in the world yet he still pulled it off. I think when they went out drinking she told him that she was going to divorce him and take his kids away and I think he became enraged and killed her and dumped her body in a location that it would never be found. The last time she was for sure seen alive was around midnight when her and Mark left the bar. Mark claims after the bar he and Christy went to a 24 hour convienence store and then arrived home. I think after they left the bar, Mark and Christy drove out to the country where Mark killed Christy dumped her body somewhere and then he drove home. He claims Christy walked right by the babysitter when they got home yet the babysitter said she would have seen or heard Christy had she done this. Also, Mark paid the babysitter himself something he had never done before. Mark and Christy also had a history of domestic violence. I didnt buy Mark's story about how Christy was attacking him and he threw her on the bed to get her to stop and she hurt her thumb that way. Also within days of his wife's disapperance how he moved out of their house and sold their cars. Also Mark knowing the contents of the suitcase to a tee. The guy is guilty, he knows it, the cops know it, everyone in that town knows it. But he cant be charged because they dont have a body. If they had a body he would be arrested on the spot, I am sure of it.
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One of the all time creeps profiled on UM in my opinion and I definitely think he killed his wife. His on camera appeal for her to come home suggesting she abandoned her children sickened me. Someone posted on Echoes months ago who was from the area and said they found a spot of blood in his car soon after she went missing but it was too small to test. Her husband has gotten remarried and is raising the children he had with Christi with his new wife. Just like Chad Noe going on with his life with as of yet no repercussions for the crimes they may have committed.
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I think Mark Nichols is right up there with Paul Pollis and Jule Caylor in terms of being guilty. One thing that struck me as odd about his interview was when he said that Christy tried to burn him with a cigarette when he tried to stop her from going out, yet he insisted that he never tried to control or abuse her in any way. And secondly, who was he to stop Christy from going anywhere to begin with? The woman was 24!
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I agree with everyone here in that I think Mark is guilty, and that he's one of the biggest creeps ever profiled on UM.
Here, in no particular order, are the top 5 guiltiest persons on UM that have never been charged, IMO. 1. Mark Nichols 2. Paul Pollis 3. Rob Page 4. Jules Caylor 5. Chad Noe (haven't actually seen this one yet, but I believe CD is putting on UM favorites vol 5, and from what I've read here on the boards, he seems very guilty. I agreed with all of the above posts. Anyone want to expand this and make it a top 10? |
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Oh yes, in addition to Mark Nichols, Chad Noe is certainly guilty. Noe either himself actually killed Wendy Camp or he at least planned it. Noe and Nichols both belong in prison but sadly probably will never see the inside of a cell because the authorities have never found the bodies. Noe is probably re married too and the son he had with Wendy I believe would be 16 or 17 now. Noe was supposedly boasting in a bar about how he had killed Wendy and how he had hid her body in a place it would never be found. Chad Noe and Mark Nichols both appeared on UM because they thought they would appear innocent by appearing on the show. However their apperances on the show actually ended up pretty much sealing the deal for me that they were guilty just by the way they acted. Both Nichols and Noe and the way they talked about Christy and Wendy you could tell there was bad blood. As for Rob Page, there is another one that probably knocked off his wife or hired someone else to do it and he got away with it because they never found her body. I was honestly shocked by Jules Caylor. Just the way he acted. However that made me think maybe he didnt do it. I just think if he had done it he wouldnt act so non remoreseful and like he was glad she was gone. He just honestly seemed like he really could care less that she was gone. But Mark Nichols needs to be in prison. He didnt seem like the smartest guy and he made some blunders but clearly he was smart enough to be able to pull this off with leaving little physical evidence as to a physical assault. The blood in the car would be a give a way but since it was so small to test he pretty much got away with it. He sold the car and God knows where it is now. Stephen Marfeo was another one. He killed Doreen most likely. As we all saw in the update in 1999 he got drunk and in a drunken rage killed his ex-girlfriend and seriously wounded her boyfriend and then he drove around for a few hours and then shot himself.
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Funny you should mention Stephen Marfeo, I was seriously thinking about including that one in my original list. I'll make him #6. I think that since he killed an ex-girlfriend and seriously wounded the boyfriend, the odds would have it that he killed Doreen as well.
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Yeah, honestly if I had been watching the segment on Stephen Marfeo when it first aired I probably wouldnt have thought he did that to her. However after seeing the update I thought the odds were much better that he had murdered Doreen. Either it was because she was going to leave him and he didnt want her to or it was something that he hadnt planned out, like they got in an arugment and he pushed her and she hit her head and died and he panicked and got rid of her body. But when someone does what he does and kills an ex-girlfriend and attempts to kill her boyfriend that tells you he didnt just wake up that day and decide to kill her he had been doing that for a while. I will say if he didnt kill Doreen it was a strange coincidence that what happened, happened with the ex-girlfriend. He probably did kill Doreen though. I know the Johnston, Rhode Island Police thought he did it. But they didnt have a body so the D.A. wouldnt press charges so they never arrested him. There was just the little things about Marfeo. Some of the details he gave about Doreen shortly before her disapperance. How it was him that for sure typed one of the letters and how he probably typed the other one. I think an expert said the two letters sent to the police were probably written by the same person.
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