Gil Grissom or Horatio Caine? - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Brian · 03-24-2004, 10:00 PM

These two are the leaders of their respective teams, CSI Las Vegas and CSI Miami. I have been watching CSI Miami since the first season ended and reruns were aired over the summer. It is hard for me to choose which one is better because they are both good in their own ways. Instead, I'll focus on those show's leaders.

Gil Grissom
He's more of a team player to me than Caine. This is one difference between the teams in Las Vegas and Miami. In Miami, the members of the crime lab are more independent-minded. He is calm, cool, and somewhat witty. He also quotes stuff from proverbs, movies, TV shows, and stuff. He's also very smart and is more into the science than Caine.

Horatio Caine
I like Grissom but I like Horatio Caine better. He is different than Grissom in that he is more of an overseer and a supervisor than he is. His demeanor, his personality, and his low voice are really distinctive and he makes it known to those around him. The reason I like Caine better than Grissom is not only because he confronts suspects more than Grissom but the way he does it. He is intimidating and very confrontational. He plays the cop well during questioning (actually he is a cop, a Lieutenant) and his presence gives the suspects a false sense of security. His wisecracks are great. Like this line when asked by a suspect if he could have his ring (which, with his fist, was used as a murder weapon) back.

"Yes. In about 75 years."

And in an episode a couple of weeks ago, when an armored car robber foolishly tried to shoot him only to be shot to death.

"They never listen."

AnaheimPMWitch · 03-24-2004, 10:22 PM

okay i only saw Miami ONCE (well only cause its a crossover ep on the Season two CSI box set) anyways I like Grissom better TO ME he's funnier,cutier and just well all around better
plus he's MUCH MUCH better with Catherine

marvin g · 03-29-2004, 10:33 PM

I like Grissom better. He's so laid back. And when he doesn't approved he'll stare you down!

Irish_Rose_Kate · 05-14-2004, 10:17 PM

I like Grissom better. I don't know maybe it has to do with him be the orginal CSI. You know the one that made it what it is? I mean he's not the only one's the wrighters, and the other cast, and the creaters have a lot to do with it...but In general I like the first one better.

H. E. Pennypacker · 07-17-2004, 10:47 AM

Caine for me, but they're like chalk and cheese, Grissom is a science nerd and a master of deduction who seems happy to live in his lab and leave the police work to Det Brass whereas Horation Caine seems like he runs the whole Miami-Dade police force! He seems to have almost limitless resources and people under his command, but what makes me laugh is despite that he still has to tell his underlings when to bag something or take a photo. If I were Rick Berman trying to come up with the next Star Trek, I'd peg Caruso as my captain because he has that real Me Me Me quality that Shatner had on trek, it makes for Barnstorming television!

Nighthawk76 · 09-24-2004, 03:57 PM

Grissom is by far the best.

CarJackSnyder · 10-25-2004, 06:42 PM

Grissom all the way

Mysty Eyes · 10-27-2004, 01:20 AM

MAC TAYLOR!

Uh... oh... that's NY, huh?

Too soon to tell with that one. Heh!

Grissom vs Caine..............

Horatio Caine. Yes, indeed.

Caine is the boss. He acts like the boss. He's a former bomb-squad cop, with nerves of steel. But he has a tremendous sensitivity, allowing him to deal with the victims' families. A "people person," unlike Grissom.

Grissom is a teacher. He frequently turns the day's work into a classroom-like exercise. Problem with that is, his staff are not in school anymore. I don't know about anyone else, but that would really irk me if I felt like I was being constantly "tested" by my supervisor.

AnaheimPMWitch · 10-27-2004, 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by Mysty Eyes
MAC TAYLOR!

oh yeah GOTTA SAY Mac Taylor is pretty HOT

gotta love Gary Sinise

Luckymama58 · 10-30-2004, 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by Mysty Eyes
MAC TAYLOR!

Uh... oh... that's NY, huh?

Too soon to tell with that one. Heh!

Grissom vs Caine..............

Horatio Caine. Yes, indeed.

Caine is the boss. He acts like the boss. He's a former bomb-squad cop, with nerves of steel. But he has a tremendous sensitivity, allowing him to deal with the victims' families. A "people person," unlike Grissom.

Grissom is a teacher. He frequently turns the day's work into a classroom-like exercise. Problem with that is, his staff are not in school anymore. I don't know about anyone else, but that would really irk me if I felt like I was being constantly "tested" by my supervisor.

I have always liked Las Vegas over Miami and I am not a big Caruso fan, but there was one episode on Las Vegas where Catherine and I think it was Nick went to Fla to track a girl whose parents were killed in Vegas.... and from that one episode, I could see what Misty Eyes is getting at. Caine was very good at sympathizing, something Grissom has a hard time with.

I have always liked Grissom even if he is quirky. But you are very astute, Misty Eyes. Grissom's parental educator routine is getting a bit old, in the beginning it was ok, but I think that the other team members have a right to whine when he does treat them like rookies, which he still does occasionally. I have gotten tired of when he does this and then the other characters react negatively to this behavior. I can sympathize with their "you don't trust me" response, but I think the whole team needs to move on from this constant tension. I know I couldn't work for someone who was constantly telling me how I should do my job, even if it is my boss. As a professional (I am a teacher) I expect a certain level of professional trust from my supervisors. I would resent being treated like a first year teacher after all the years I have put into teaching. Gil Grissom needs to trust his team more, and if he does, he needs to let them know it in a better way, even if he doesn't have the best people skills. Kinda makes you wonder how he got the job. It was interesting this past week when Catherine came to him to find out if he put in a good word for her application for the day supervisor job. One thing he told her was that she needed to be able to relate well with the people under her..... and I thought to myself, "Yeah, and you should take your own advice!" LOL

Don't get me wrong, I still like Grissom, but his lack of people skills does get a bit on my nerves. He is a wonderful scientist, tho!

AnaheimPMWitch · 11-01-2004, 02:15 AM

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Originally posted by Luckymama58
I have always liked Las Vegas over Miami and I am not a big Caruso fan, but there was one episode on Las Vegas where Catherine and I think it was Nick went to Fla to track a girl whose parents were killed in Vegas.... and from that one episode, I could see what Misty Eyes is getting at. Caine was very good at sympathizing, something Grissom has a hard time with.

I have always liked Grissom even if he is quirky. But you are very astute, Misty Eyes. Grissom's parental educator routine is getting a bit old, in the beginning it was ok, but I think that the other team members have a right to whine when he does treat them like rookies, which he still does occasionally. I have gotten tired of when he does this and then the other characters react negatively to this behavior. I can sympathize with their "you don't trust me" response, but I think the whole team needs to move on from this constant tension. I know I couldn't work for someone who was constantly telling me how I should do my job, even if it is my boss. As a professional (I am a teacher) I expect a certain level of professional trust from my supervisors. I would resent being treated like a first year teacher after all the years I have put into teaching. Gil Grissom needs to trust his team more, and if he does, he needs to let them know it in a better way, even if he doesn't have the best people skills. Kinda makes you wonder how he got the job. It was interesting this past week when Catherine came to him to find out if he put in a good word for her application for the day supervisor job. One thing he told her was that she needed to be able to relate well with the people under her..... and I thought to myself, "Yeah, and you should take your own advice!" LOL

Don't get me wrong, I still like Grissom, but his lack of people skills does get a bit on my nerves. He is a wonderful scientist, tho!

See Me personally I see the whole CSI team as a family I kind of like the way Grissom is
but thats only because like I said family
Grissom and Catherine the Parents (cause they are the REAL CSI couple well them and Nick and Sara)
Warrick the Overprotective Older brother
Sara the spoiled Middle sister
Greg the goof off Younger brother
and Nicky the older brothers bestfriend who Just so happens to like the Middle sister

Mysty Eyes · 11-01-2004, 05:17 PM

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Originally posted by Luckymama58
Gil Grissom needs to trust his team more, and if he does, he needs to let them know it in a better way, even if he doesn't have the best people skills. Kinda makes you wonder how he got the job.

Well, in defense of Grissom, he kind of had the job dropped into his lap. Brass had been the boss of the CSI unit but was transferred back to homicide. Gil had the job of "boss" foisted upon him, he didn't go out seeking the position.

However, that may have also been the case with Horatio as well. We didn't actually see how Caine got the job, but I got the very strong impression that Megan Donner (Kim Delaney) had been the head of the unit and that Horatio became the boss when she left the job after her husband died. That was a cause of tension in the first episodes of Miami: the "staff" had problems remembering that Megan was no longer the boss. Even Megan had that problem.

David Caruso: It seems people either love him or hate him. I can see where some of his acting characteristics can have a grating effect on viewers. But he is so intuitive with his performances that I can't help but become entranced by him.

Luckymama58 · 11-01-2004, 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by AnaheimPMWitch
Grissom and Catherine the Parents (cause they are the REAL CSI couple well them and Nick and Sara)
Warrick the Overprotective Older brother
Sara the spoiled Middle sister
Greg the goof off Younger brother
and Nicky the older brothers bestfriend who Just so happens to like the Middle sister

I can soo see what you are saying with the family analogy, I see that too! LOL

And Misty eyes, I really can't say what it is about David Caruso, but I just don't get him. I don't think he is a bad actor, per se, but I just don't relate to him. And to respond to your quote:

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Originally posted by Misty Eyes
Well, in defense of Grissom, he kind of had the job dropped into his lap. Brass had been the boss of the CSI unit but was transferred back to homicide. Gil had the job of "boss" foisted upon him, he didn't go out seeking the position.

I missed the first show so I didn't know that. Thanks for the clue in! I hope to get the seasons on DVD, but don't have the bread right now!

Mysty Eyes · 11-01-2004, 06:45 PM

Like I said, Caruso is one of those actors that either does impress you or does not. There seem to be few viewers who simply "like" him.

In the role of Horatio, I see a lot of my own mannerisms. I work in accounting, as analytical a line of work as is forensics. I find myself, and other co-workers, often talking as we are thinking out a methodology for something or other. We go to one another with the intent of asking for some opinion or input in some work we are handling. We kind of ask questions as we go along with our thought process, and frequently answer those questions ourselves.

David Caruso seems to have done his homework. He sounds just like us!

Yet he doesn't do this in other roles I've seen him in, so it isn't merely his acting style.

AnaheimPMWitch · 11-01-2004, 10:15 PM

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Originally posted by Luckymama58
I can soo see what you are saying with the family analogy, I see that too! LOL

!

I know and see to me I dont see the whole Grissom and Sara thing PLUS it says in the s4 box set that butterflied was the END of that so I'm happy *giggles* to me the true blue couples are Grissom and Catherine and Nick and Sara and from what I see in the box set commentaries thats how the powers that be want it as well

thats why the Family makes so much sense

03-24-2004, 10:00 PM	#1
Brian Member Forum Celebrity Join Date: Jun 23, 2001 Posts: 20,451	Gil Grissom or Horatio Caine? These two are the leaders of their respective teams, CSI Las Vegas and CSI Miami. I have been watching CSI Miami since the first season ended and reruns were aired over the summer. It is hard for me to choose which one is better because they are both good in their own ways. Instead, I'll focus on those show's leaders. Gil Grissom He's more of a team player to me than Caine. This is one difference between the teams in Las Vegas and Miami. In Miami, the members of the crime lab are more independent-minded. He is calm, cool, and somewhat witty. He also quotes stuff from proverbs, movies, TV shows, and stuff. He's also very smart and is more into the science than Caine. Horatio Caine I like Grissom but I like Horatio Caine better. He is different than Grissom in that he is more of an overseer and a supervisor than he is. His demeanor, his personality, and his low voice are really distinctive and he makes it known to those around him. The reason I like Caine better than Grissom is not only because he confronts suspects more than Grissom but the way he does it. He is intimidating and very confrontational. He plays the cop well during questioning (actually he is a cop, a Lieutenant) and his presence gives the suspects a false sense of security. His wisecracks are great. Like this line when asked by a suspect if he could have his ring (which, with his fist, was used as a murder weapon) back. "Yes. In about 75 years." And in an episode a couple of weeks ago, when an armored car robber foolishly tried to shoot him only to be shot to death. "They never listen."

03-24-2004, 10:22 PM	#2
AnaheimPMWitch AKA CaitlinMoore2002 Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: May 08, 2002 Location: in the Las Vegas Crime Lab hangin with Nick and Sara Posts: 4,973	okay i only saw Miami ONCE (well only cause its a crossover ep on the Season two CSI box set) anyways I like Grissom better TO ME he's funnier,cutier and just well all around better plus he's MUCH MUCH better with Catherine
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05-14-2004, 10:17 PM	#4
Irish_Rose_Kate Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 23, 2004 Location: Lost? I was looking for my way, but took a wrong turn, and will be forever lost. Posts: 248	I like Grissom better. I don't know maybe it has to do with him be the orginal CSI. You know the one that made it what it is? I mean he's not the only one's the wrighters, and the other cast, and the creaters have a lot to do with it...but In general I like the first one better.
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07-17-2004, 10:47 AM	#5
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10-25-2004, 06:42 PM	#7
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03-29-2004, 10:33 PM	#3
marvin g Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 30, 2003 Location: Chicago,IL Posts: 1,217	I like Grissom better. He's so laid back. And when he doesn't approved he'll stare you down!

09-24-2004, 03:57 PM	#6
Nighthawk76 Rachel Berry Forum Celebrity Join Date: Feb 28, 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 23,254	Grissom is by far the best.

10-27-2004, 01:20 AM	#8
Mysty Eyes Dreaming... Senior Member Join Date: Feb 04, 2002 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 1,144	MAC TAYLOR! Uh... oh... that's NY, huh? Too soon to tell with that one. Heh! Grissom vs Caine.............. Horatio Caine. Yes, indeed. Caine is the boss. He acts like the boss. He's a former bomb-squad cop, with nerves of steel. But he has a tremendous sensitivity, allowing him to deal with the victims' families. A "people person," unlike Grissom. Grissom is a teacher. He frequently turns the day's work into a classroom-like exercise. Problem with that is, his staff are not in school anymore. I don't know about anyone else, but that would really irk me if I felt like I was being constantly "tested" by my supervisor.

11-01-2004, 06:45 PM	#14
Mysty Eyes Dreaming... Senior Member Join Date: Feb 04, 2002 Location: Los Angeles area Posts: 1,144	Like I said, Caruso is one of those actors that either does impress you or does not. There seem to be few viewers who simply "like" him. In the role of Horatio, I see a lot of my own mannerisms. I work in accounting, as analytical a line of work as is forensics. I find myself, and other co-workers, often talking as we are thinking out a methodology for something or other. We go to one another with the intent of asking for some opinion or input in some work we are handling. We kind of ask questions as we go along with our thought process, and frequently answer those questions ourselves. David Caruso seems to have done his homework. He sounds just like us! Yet he doesn't do this in other roles I've seen him in, so it isn't merely his acting style.