Backstage battles with the cast of Roseanne - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Christmas Snow · 03-21-2004, 03:17 PM

I heard some stuff that Roseanne and John Goodman had some back stage battles and thats why he was rarely seen in Season 9. Can some one clear this up for me? Also what is everyones thoughts on the subject?

Mr.Blue · 03-21-2004, 03:36 PM

I have never heared of John and Roseanne fighting. My understaning was that the show was planned to be cancled after season 8, so John had made other plans and didn't have much time for the show.

db108108 · 03-21-2004, 04:03 PM

I've heard that but also that there was a huge fight scene during the 8th season Holloween episode in which Roseanne had a break down and really created a huge rift between her and the cast. I actually read this in Entertainment Weekly, so it's really credible and supposidly, a camera caught the whole thing. The video would be very interesting!

brainlesschild09 · 03-21-2004, 11:21 PM

I heard that John Goodman felt that Roseanne was becoming to dominant. He was let out of his contract at the end of season eight, but agreed to guest star in a few episodes in season nine.

db108108 · 03-22-2004, 02:27 AM

I'm no longer a subscriber to EW, but I've already posted the article here, I'll try to search for it.

db108108 · 03-22-2004, 02:33 AM

Found it!

Link:
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/...threadid=77684

What I wrote then:

Here's the jist:

She may have a new baby, a new hubby, and a new nose, but don't worry: She's still the same old diva. On Oct. 17, TV's reigning tantrum queen threw a doozy: a two-hour screamfest that torpedoed staff morale and drove costar John Goodman to boycott the show for a day.

''Roseanne got up in front of everyone and was screaming and ranting, but mostly crying,'' says a source close to the show. Wags another insider: ''It was sort of a Norma Desmond speech [from Sunset Boulevard].'' Among Roseanne's gripes: She could trust no one; someone was hiding positive fan mail from her; and executive producer Eric Gilliland had inked a deal with Twentieth Century Fox behind her back. (Even though Gilliland was scheduled only to finish out this, the show's final year, Roseanne still wanted him fired. As of now, he's back on staff.) In the end, Roseanne threatened to quit her eight-year-old blue-collar sitcom.

Neither the actors nor the network would comment on the episode, but it's far from a secret. Someone had left a soundstage camera on, and it was feeding the tirade onto dozens of closed-circuit monitors on a CBS lot where Roseanne and other shows are shot. ''I'm sure a tape is available,'' says one source. ''It will be a real hot bootleg item.''

Dated November 2, 1995

http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,299399~7|15482||0~0~,00.html

liane49 · 04-25-2013, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by db108108

I'm no longer a subscriber to EW, but I've already posted the article here, I'll try to search for it.

I don't know about that but I do know today the 2 of them are really good friends with each other.

Hughsgirl · 05-09-2013, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by liane49

I don't know about that but I do know today the 2 of them are really good friends with each other.

Well, even the best of friends can have knock down drag outs and then kiss and make up. And I have a hard time believeing that Rosanne wasn't always dominate anyway.

Sean Conner · 05-13-2013, 08:49 PM

I'd wager most sitcoms have stories like this. I know Patricia Richardson and Tim Allen had some friction back during their Home Improvement days, so, it isn't that rare of a thing. Of course, we all know Roseanne is overly-emotional and her personality was certain to clash with some at the time.

Even still, I think Lecy Goranson, Sara Gilbert and Michael Fishman have nothing but praise for her and John Goodman - as I know Roseanne went to bat for 'em all the time (I know Lecy wanted to cut her hair prior to ... season 2? and the producers said no, so, Roseanne took her aside and cut it herself).

Drama! But you've got to wonder if it ever becomes the hit it did without it.

jayman75 · 05-14-2013, 01:50 PM

I thought Goodman's absence in the last season was due to his filming of "The Big Lebowski." If you look at John's build, hair, etc., it's right in line with his role in TBL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Lebowski

TBL came out in March 1998, and Roseanne finished up in May 1997.

Will and Grace Fanatic · 05-15-2013, 10:45 PM

I know he didn't like Tom Arnold and that kinda created some tension between them.

Yong Fang · 05-18-2013, 12:32 AM

Roseanne was just insane to begin with. Ask her, she will tell you the samer thing. Being a multi millionaire overnight and being as famous as she was pushed her over the edge.

Being married to Tom Arnold did not help things, him also being insane with a cocaine habit and someone who isn't that talented who was coasting with Roseanne.

Goodman I am sure wanted to strangle the crazy lady at times.

Sean Conner · 05-18-2013, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yong Fang

Roseanne was just insane to begin with. Ask her, she will tell you the samer thing. Being a multi millionaire overnight and being as famous as she was pushed her over the edge.

Being married to Tom Arnold did not help things, him also being insane with a cocaine habit and someone who isn't that talented who was coasting with Roseanne.

Goodman I am sure wanted to strangle the crazy lady at times.

Roseanne is why fame can be a bitch. She was just an unknown housewife for most her life and then BAM, she hits it big on the Tonight Show, gets her own series and becomes one of the most visible women in America. That couldn't have been easy to take. Most people who hit it big at that age have at least some experience in Hollywood and she had zero.

Hughsgirl · 05-23-2013, 09:11 AM

I guess I see it a different way. I feel that the old song and dance of a celebrity becoming a spaz is because it's difficult to have all that fame and fortune is a cop out and nothing but a free pass for their sometimes horrendous behavior. I have no sympathy for them because they chose the work they do and they are compensated very well too I will add. Let's hold them to the same standards we hold ourselves to, shall we? If they have relationship issues or are in trouble with the law, it's because of the choices they have made - not because they can't handle the fame and fortune - and if that's true than well gee, get out of it! Rosanne acted that way because she's a bitch. Yes, she is funny, but I also see her as one of the world's biggest man haters and control freaks - and I would bet my last buck she was that way even before her fame. JMO.

Sean Conner · 05-25-2013, 04:28 AM

Well I never claimed I was sympathetic to her outlandish attitude. But you're kidding yourself if you feel fame is just like any other job. You're an unknown on the street and no one, outside your friends and family, knows what you've gone through or the problems you're facing or every other part of your life. If I see you walking down the street, I'm not going to know if you've been raped, raised by alcoholics or abusive parents, beaten by your husband or boyfriend ... whether you had a drug addiction or an alcohol addiction ... no one knows that. You know what I'm saying?

So, take a typical housewife who is then pushed into the public eye, her whole life analyzed - from her voice to her weight - by every single person in America and yeah, I do believe that can cause a crap-load of problems. It doesn't excuse her attitude, but it does help explain it.

The money helps, I'm sure, but does it fix the overall problem of a gawking public? Na'.

03-21-2004, 03:17 PM	#1
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05-14-2013, 01:50 PM	#10
jayman75 I Love the 80s! Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 27, 2000 Location: THE GREAT UNITED STATES Posts: 3,809	I thought Goodman's absence in the last season was due to his filming of "The Big Lebowski." If you look at John's build, hair, etc., it's right in line with his role in TBL. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Big_Lebowski TBL came out in March 1998, and Roseanne finished up in May 1997.
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05-15-2013, 10:45 PM	#11
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03-21-2004, 03:36 PM	#2
Mr.Blue Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 09, 2004 Posts: 151	I have never heared of John and Roseanne fighting. My understaning was that the show was planned to be cancled after season 8, so John had made other plans and didn't have much time for the show.

03-21-2004, 04:03 PM	#3
db108108 Teacher (for now) Senior Member Join Date: Mar 20, 2003 Location: 2 hours north of Detroit, 2 hours south of Toronto Posts: 1,023	I've heard that but also that there was a huge fight scene during the 8th season Holloween episode in which Roseanne had a break down and really created a huge rift between her and the cast. I actually read this in Entertainment Weekly, so it's really credible and supposidly, a camera caught the whole thing. The video would be very interesting!

03-21-2004, 11:21 PM	#4
brainlesschild09 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 03, 2004 Location: At the Computer Posts: 416	I heard that John Goodman felt that Roseanne was becoming to dominant. He was let out of his contract at the end of season eight, but agreed to guest star in a few episodes in season nine.

03-22-2004, 02:27 AM	#5
db108108 Teacher (for now) Senior Member Join Date: Mar 20, 2003 Location: 2 hours north of Detroit, 2 hours south of Toronto Posts: 1,023	I'm no longer a subscriber to EW, but I've already posted the article here, I'll try to search for it.

03-22-2004, 02:33 AM	#6
db108108 Teacher (for now) Senior Member Join Date: Mar 20, 2003 Location: 2 hours north of Detroit, 2 hours south of Toronto Posts: 1,023	Found it! Link: http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/...threadid=77684 What I wrote then: Here's the jist: She may have a new baby, a new hubby, and a new nose, but don't worry: She's still the same old diva. On Oct. 17, TV's reigning tantrum queen threw a doozy: a two-hour screamfest that torpedoed staff morale and drove costar John Goodman to boycott the show for a day. ''Roseanne got up in front of everyone and was screaming and ranting, but mostly crying,'' says a source close to the show. Wags another insider: ''It was sort of a Norma Desmond speech [from Sunset Boulevard].'' Among Roseanne's gripes: She could trust no one; someone was hiding positive fan mail from her; and executive producer Eric Gilliland had inked a deal with Twentieth Century Fox behind her back. (Even though Gilliland was scheduled only to finish out this, the show's final year, Roseanne still wanted him fired. As of now, he's back on staff.) In the end, Roseanne threatened to quit her eight-year-old blue-collar sitcom. Neither the actors nor the network would comment on the episode, but it's far from a secret. Someone had left a soundstage camera on, and it was feeding the tirade onto dozens of closed-circuit monitors on a CBS lot where Roseanne and other shows are shot. ''I'm sure a tape is available,'' says one source. ''It will be a real hot bootleg item.'' Dated November 2, 1995 http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,299399~7\|15482\|\|0~0~,00.html

05-13-2013, 08:49 PM	#9
Sean Conner Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 18, 2011 Location: Lanford, Illinois Posts: 120	I'd wager most sitcoms have stories like this. I know Patricia Richardson and Tim Allen had some friction back during their Home Improvement days, so, it isn't that rare of a thing. Of course, we all know Roseanne is overly-emotional and her personality was certain to clash with some at the time. Even still, I think Lecy Goranson, Sara Gilbert and Michael Fishman have nothing but praise for her and John Goodman - as I know Roseanne went to bat for 'em all the time (I know Lecy wanted to cut her hair prior to ... season 2? and the producers said no, so, Roseanne took her aside and cut it herself). Drama! But you've got to wonder if it ever becomes the hit it did without it.

05-18-2013, 12:32 AM	#12
Yong Fang Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 04, 2009 Location: Memphis Tennessee Posts: 3,073	Roseanne was just insane to begin with. Ask her, she will tell you the samer thing. Being a multi millionaire overnight and being as famous as she was pushed her over the edge. Being married to Tom Arnold did not help things, him also being insane with a cocaine habit and someone who isn't that talented who was coasting with Roseanne. Goodman I am sure wanted to strangle the crazy lady at times.

05-23-2013, 09:11 AM	#14
Hughsgirl Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 22, 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 804	I guess I see it a different way. I feel that the old song and dance of a celebrity becoming a spaz is because it's difficult to have all that fame and fortune is a cop out and nothing but a free pass for their sometimes horrendous behavior. I have no sympathy for them because they chose the work they do and they are compensated very well too I will add. Let's hold them to the same standards we hold ourselves to, shall we? If they have relationship issues or are in trouble with the law, it's because of the choices they have made - not because they can't handle the fame and fortune - and if that's true than well gee, get out of it! Rosanne acted that way because she's a bitch. Yes, she is funny, but I also see her as one of the world's biggest man haters and control freaks - and I would bet my last buck she was that way even before her fame. JMO.

05-25-2013, 04:28 AM	#15
Sean Conner Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 18, 2011 Location: Lanford, Illinois Posts: 120	Well I never claimed I was sympathetic to her outlandish attitude. But you're kidding yourself if you feel fame is just like any other job. You're an unknown on the street and no one, outside your friends and family, knows what you've gone through or the problems you're facing or every other part of your life. If I see you walking down the street, I'm not going to know if you've been raped, raised by alcoholics or abusive parents, beaten by your husband or boyfriend ... whether you had a drug addiction or an alcohol addiction ... no one knows that. You know what I'm saying? So, take a typical housewife who is then pushed into the public eye, her whole life analyzed - from her voice to her weight - by every single person in America and yeah, I do believe that can cause a crap-load of problems. It doesn't excuse her attitude, but it does help explain it. The money helps, I'm sure, but does it fix the overall problem of a gawking public? Na'.