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barwars · 03-20-2004, 11:03 AM

When was the series better??

barwars · 03-20-2004, 11:11 AM

Although I havent even seen more than 10 episodes from Seasons 3-7.... Id have to say that its definately better.

I think Niles & Daphne getting together couldve caused the show to jump the shark.... but not quite.

I still love Seasons 8-11 (which Ive seen almost every episode).... but its just not on par with the first 7 seasons.

But Id still rather watch an episode after Season 7 over more than half the crap that airs on TV.

Brian Damage · 03-20-2004, 02:14 PM

I always loved the sexual tension between Niles and Daphne.

Microprosa · 03-20-2004, 05:49 PM

Before. They have no chemistry.

PanamaMike · 04-09-2004, 10:25 AM

The moment Niles and Daphne drove off in the motorhome this show fell apart.
7 amazing seasons followed by 4 mediocre ones.

Frasier W. Crane · 04-09-2004, 01:25 PM

Note that this season is MUCH MUCH better than the previous few.

barwars · 04-09-2004, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Frasier W. Crane
Note that this season is MUCH MUCH better than the previous few.

I agree.
This is the best Season since Niles & Daphne got together.

By the time Seasons 8-10 rolled around, the show's 2 biggest jokes (Maris, and Niles' obsession with Daphne) were both already done.
But I still enjoy the later seasons a lot.
Much better than A LOT of shows out there, but not quite on par with the early seasons.

Jokerette · 04-14-2004, 09:09 AM

Better. I love Niles and Daphne as a couple but I thought the show was fresher and funnier before they hooked up properly. I thought the sexual tension was incredible and the will they/won't they was so well done it was never boring although towards the end of I was literally screaming for them to "for God sake's get on with it" lol. I do like Niles and Daphne together as well though, they're such a cute couple.

Moondance · 05-30-2004, 02:03 PM

I think it was before they got together, but I loved when they got together...it wasn't rushed, I don't think.

Feen

Chambers · 05-31-2004, 05:47 PM

It was wonderful when Daphne was unaware of Niles' obsession with her - great stuff for comedy. I actually stopped watching "Frasier" regularly when Niles and Daphne started to get friendly.

BebeSternin · 05-31-2004, 06:09 PM

*Big Niles-ish gasp*

How could you stop watching Frasier regularly??

Chambers · 05-31-2004, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BebeSternin
*Big Niles-ish gasp*

How could you stop watching Frasier regularly??

"Oh cut it out, Niles!" LOL
I have always had trouble being a regular tv watcher. I'm not always in the same city or country - so tv schedules change. And sometimes I have so much work to do that I simply don't have time to watch ANY tv

. That's why I worship reruns.

Anyway - Niles and Daphne are a cute couple, but not enough to keep me interested. Daphne is not my favorite character. I love the show because of the relationship between Frasier, Niles and Martin...and Eddie of course. Frankly, the regular female roles in the show (save for Maris, whom I adore, HA-HA) aren't that impressive. I don't think the creative team ever topped Diane or Lilith.

By the way, BebeS., LOVE the new avatar!

BebeSternin · 05-31-2004, 06:32 PM

You just couldn't top Diane/Lilith. It's not even possible.

But thanks! And I love yours too!

barwars · 05-31-2004, 07:22 PM

The trouble is DianeDiane, you have a fear of commitment. You really wanted to see Niles and Daphne get together, but you were too afraid of commitment to watching the show take a "soap-opera" turn, much like early Cheers.

Or.... this is a bunch of bull, and you left with half of the rest of the world.

Chambers · 05-31-2004, 07:34 PM

Oh barwars, thank you. I haven't had a good laugh in ages. Actually, you're not far off with the psycho-babble. I did want to avoid that soap-opera element. If the humor stems from dysfunctional couples, then once the couple finds happiness, what is there left to watch? Commitment, happiness, call it what you want, is B-O-R-I-N-G. That's why I'm actually glad Sam and Diane never married. I mean, it would have been a nice last episode, but it would also have meant the end of Cheers. Fighting, unrequited love, etc, is fun. Happily-ever-after isn't.

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03-20-2004, 11:03 AM	#1
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05-31-2004, 05:47 PM	#10
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05-31-2004, 06:09 PM	#11
BebeSternin Sigmund Frost Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 25, 2004 Posts: 538	Big Niles-ish gasp How could you stop watching Frasier regularly??
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03-20-2004, 11:11 AM	#2
barwars .. Forum Star Join Date: May 04, 2002 Posts: 13,273	Although I havent even seen more than 10 episodes from Seasons 3-7.... Id have to say that its definately better. I think Niles & Daphne getting together couldve caused the show to jump the shark.... but not quite. I still love Seasons 8-11 (which Ive seen almost every episode).... but its just not on par with the first 7 seasons. But Id still rather watch an episode after Season 7 over more than half the crap that airs on TV.

03-20-2004, 02:14 PM	#3
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	I always loved the sexual tension between Niles and Daphne.

03-20-2004, 05:49 PM	#4
Microprosa Senior Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 01, 2003 Posts: 1,405	Before. They have no chemistry.

04-09-2004, 10:25 AM	#5
PanamaMike Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 25, 2002 Posts: 150	The moment Niles and Daphne drove off in the motorhome this show fell apart. 7 amazing seasons followed by 4 mediocre ones.

04-14-2004, 09:09 AM	#8
Jokerette Clown Princess Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 29, 2004 Location: Gotham City...dancing with the devil in the pale moonlight Posts: 334	Better. I love Niles and Daphne as a couple but I thought the show was fresher and funnier before they hooked up properly. I thought the sexual tension was incredible and the will they/won't they was so well done it was never boring although towards the end of I was literally screaming for them to "for God sake's get on with it" lol. I do like Niles and Daphne together as well though, they're such a cute couple.

05-30-2004, 02:03 PM	#9
Moondance MCR Moderator Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 25, 2001 Posts: 4,008	I think it was before they got together, but I loved when they got together...it wasn't rushed, I don't think. Feen

05-31-2004, 06:32 PM	#13
BebeSternin Sigmund Frost Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 25, 2004 Posts: 538	You just couldn't top Diane/Lilith. It's not even possible. But thanks! And I love yours too!

05-31-2004, 07:22 PM	#14
barwars .. Forum Star Join Date: May 04, 2002 Posts: 13,273	The trouble is DianeDiane, you have a fear of commitment. You really wanted to see Niles and Daphne get together, but you were too afraid of commitment to watching the show take a "soap-opera" turn, much like early Cheers. Or.... this is a bunch of bull, and you left with half of the rest of the world.

05-31-2004, 07:34 PM	#15
Chambers The Crane Trinity Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 27, 2004 Location: Where everybody knows a Crane. Posts: 5,427	Oh barwars, thank you. I haven't had a good laugh in ages. Actually, you're not far off with the psycho-babble. I did want to avoid that soap-opera element. If the humor stems from dysfunctional couples, then once the couple finds happiness, what is there left to watch? Commitment, happiness, call it what you want, is B-O-R-I-N-G. That's why I'm actually glad Sam and Diane never married. I mean, it would have been a nice last episode, but it would also have meant the end of Cheers. Fighting, unrequited love, etc, is fun. Happily-ever-after isn't.

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