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Actresses still avoid each other's 'Company'
Twenty-three years after she left her hit sitcom,"Three's Company," Suzanne Somers says she still doesn't speak to co-star Joyce DeWitt. "I haven't," she tells The News. "Not that I won't. We aren't friends. And she has this message for her former pal: "All I've ever seen is when she says those awful things about me on those 'True Hollywood' shows. …I look at her and think, 'Joyce, you are going to get sick carrying around this kind of anger.'" Somers was fired following a bitter salary dispute in 1981. It also caused an icy, years-long rift with her other co-star, John Ritter. But a few years before his sudden death from a heart ailment in September, Somers and Ritter mended ties - at the suggestion of Ritter's wife. "John and I hugged and we cried. Just sobbing on one another's shoulders. When Ritter died, she says, she was devastated. "I still can't believe John Ritter is gone." Somers says she wanted to give Ritter a "proper send-off" at the Emmy Awards show, which aired the week after he died. So she called a television academy honcho to propose a tribute to Ritter that would have involved both her and DeWitt - "I didn't ask her, but I knew she would" come together on stage. "The country had been waiting for a reunion," she says. "What a beautiful way to reunite without it being corny and phony. The focus would have been on John and how we loved John and it would have been so right!" "It would have been such a television moment." But the Emmy producers turned her down. "Instead, they had Henry Winkler walk out and say, 'We won't remember John Ritter just for his pratfalls' or something like that. "It was unbelievable, stupid. … It's an old group at the Emmys - gray hair and old-fart thinking," she says. Looking back, Somers says she is proud of her salary stand, even though it cost her prime-time stardom. "John and I loved each other," she says. "But the producers had created such a fury at the time - they said I was trying to ruin the show - and it drove us apart." Somers, who at the time was earning $32,000 per episode on TV's No. 1 show, says she simply asked for actor Alan Alda's salary on M*A*S*H (reported to be about $150,000 per episode). "They thought I was a dumb blond like the character I played. … My feeling is how dumb for John and Joyce that they didn't back me up. Because they could have got whatever I got." Years later, that lesson was not lost on the cast of the NBC hit "Friends," who banded together and won hefty $1.2 million-per-episode paychecks for all. Within her career as a marketing and healthy-livingentrepreneur, Somers still makes time to perform. In San Diego in January, she opened a one-woman show, "The Blonde in the Thunderbird," (a reference to her early, one-line role in the 1973 cult classic "American Graffiti"). It's a multimedia evening of song and story she hopes to take to Broadway. Still, Somers says she wouldn't mind doing another TV show someday, but she doesn't want to play "a mom" as she did on the 1990s sitcom "Step by Step." "There's a sense of obligation when you are the mother on a sitcom. When you're the mom and the kid comes in, you'd rather say, from a comedic standpoint, 'Ah shut up and figure it out yourself!' but as the sitcom mom, you have to say 'Well dear…' and the corny music plays and you have a heart-to-heart and the child cries. "And all the while you're thinking, 'Gee, it would have been so funny if I could have said 'Aw, shut up....' " |
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Thanks for posting the article ! I always thought that Suzanne and Joyce were sorta talking to each other. I read once that Joyce and Suzanne pass notes through ppl or something like that. I also heard Joyce called Suzanne when she found out she had cancer. I really want to see them apologize and forget about the whole thing !
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I always think that! Whenever there's a "mother-daughter talk", the sappy love songs go on in the background and I'm always thinking, "Oh, here comes the music...".
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Suzanne doesn't know when to let something go and keep her mouth shut. John is gone, and he can't set the record straight anymore about what REALLY happened behind the scenes. (She should know by now that he wasn't "dumb" for not supporting her entirely unprofessional, extremely selfish and extraordinarily stupid tactics when, thinking she was "the star," she kept missing work during her contract dispute while putting everyone else's lives and careers at stake.) And Suzanne should STOP putting Joyce on the defensive publicly by making these deliberately catty and manipulative comments about her now that John is gone. It turns my stomach that she can't have the dignity to just move on and take the high road without trying to get the last manipulative word in 23 years later.
Joyce made efforts to contact Suzanne with well-wishes two to three years ago after Suzanne announced she had breast cancer, but Suzanne turned her nose up time and time again. And then she put Joyce on the spot on national TV by trying to force her to appear with her on the Emmys last fall "for John" -- without even having the common decency to contact her first to see if she'd want to do such a thing while in mourning. Sorry, Suzanne, but not everyone is as EXPLOITATIVE as you ("It would have been such a television moment" !!!), especially when it comes to something as sensitive as a loved one's death a week after their passing. (I could not believe Suzanne started pulling out her old, tired home shopping junk on that Fox morning show a week after John's passing and mere moments after telling Joyce on national TV that she should show up to the Emmys "for John." A new low in insensitivity, self-servingness, shamelessness, tactlessness and tastlessness.) Suzanne is a hypocrite for saying Joyce is going to get sick by "carrying around this kind of anger." Suzanne harbors much anger for Joyce (just read Suzanne's book After the Fall), but she puts on a big, phony smile when shooting her poisonous darts belittling Joyce, trying to fool people into believing that she has no animosity towards Joyce. Obviously, based on Suzanne's actions -- her lack of forgiveness toward Joyce, her rudeness in not answering Joyce's notes and calls to her until she can publicly use it to her advantage, her selfishness in putting Joyce on the spot on national TV a week after John's tragic death, etc. -- Suzanne harbors much negativity and acts awfully toward Joyce. Suzanne, you need to take a long look in the mirror -- and not the TV camera -- before getting back on your pedastal. Lying is not healthy -- no matter how much money it makes you or helps you win public support or a People magazine cover -- and neither is greed or selfishness. With all you've been through since your potentially careering-ending contract dispute in 1980 and up through your potentially career-ending liposuction scandal and beyond, you really should have learned this by now. Sadly, you have not. But at the very least leave Joyce alone and quit besmirching John's memory with your self-serving lies. |
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by J Condon
And then she put Joyce on the spot on national TV by trying to force her to appear with her on the Emmys last fall "for John" -- without even having the common decency to contact her first to see if she'd want to do such a thing while in mourning. Sorry, Suzanne, but not everyone is as EXPLOITATIVE as you ("It would have been such a television moment" !!!), especially when it comes to something as sensitive as a loved one's death a week after their passing. Umm I'm sorry but I thought Suzanne had good intentions because I am sure alot of fans would like to see Joyce and Suzanne together again and they wouldn't love anything better than to see the original roomates of Three's Company giving a special and wonderful send off for their dear friend John Ritter. Her intentions were good and if Joyce really wanted to contact Suzanne like you say, then she shouldn't be angry that Suzanne wants to appear on Television with her again for John death. (I could not believe Suzanne started pulling out her old, tired home shopping junk on that Fox morning show a week after John's passing and mere moments after telling Joyce on national TV that she should show up to the Emmys "for John." A new low in insensitivity, self-servingness, shamelessness, tactlessness and tastlessness.) Do you realize that Suzanne probably scheduled to appear on the Fox morning show before Johns passing? No mater what its her job and she had to do it because she scheduled to be on TV. Suzanne is a hypocrite for saying Joyce is going to get sick by "carrying around this kind of anger." Suzanne harbors much anger for Joyce (just read Suzanne's book After the Fall), but she puts on a big, phony smile when shooting her poisonous darts belittling Joyce, trying to fool people into believing that she has no animosity towards Joyce. Obviously, based on Suzanne's actions -- her lack of forgiveness toward Joyce, her rudeness in not answering Joyce's notes and calls to her until she can publicly use it to her advantage, her selfishness in putting Joyce on the spot on national TV a week after John's tragic death, etc. -- Suzanne harbors much negativity and acts awfully toward Joyce. You really have no clue how Suzanne of Joyce feels. After the fall wasn't written until after John's death so all of her anger, if she even had any left, may have left her after John's passing. You are accusing Suzanne of all these things but you have weak evidence to back up what your saying. Suzanne, you need to take a long look in the mirror -- and not the TV camera -- before getting back on your pedastal. Lying is not healthy -- no matter how much money it makes you or helps you win public support or a People magazine cover -- and neither is greed or selfishness. With all you've been through since your potentially careering-ending contract dispute in 1980 and up through your potentially career-ending liposuction scandal and beyond, you really should have learned this by now. Sadly, you have not. But at the very least leave Joyce alone and quit besmirching John's memory with your self-serving lies. That is just a load of garbage. You do NOT know what Suzanne is feeling and for you to tell her to look in the mirror and giving her advice for a story that no one realy knows the real truth but Joyce and Suzanne is just plain wrong. I believe Suzanne cared alot about John and she is not using his death to get publicity. He was still a friend to her and both of them said on TV that they have reconciled. So you have to know that Suzanne is upset about is death, anyone who has been friends with someone and they die will be upset. Suzanne may feel upset because she couldn't get to know him better and be true friends with him again because of his death. Who knows, You don't know and I don't know. But I just think its plain wrong to accuse someone of such awful things when some one has died and you don't even know all the facts and the real truth. Let us know when you've actually talked with Joyce or Suzanne personally. |
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I'm thinking J Condon is Joyce DeWitt.
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I honestly don't think either one is ready to actually talk again and be friends again. And as for the emmy thing, I don't think it was too soon. I was down all week when he died and I would have loved to seen his original roomates give him a proper send off. That would have cheered me up big time.
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WELL J CONDON.......I AM SO PLEASED WITH THE WAY YOU PUT YOUR THOUGHTS INTO WORDS. I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH YOU ON EVERYTHING. I HAVE ALWAYS FELT THIS WAY ABOUT THE WHOLE SITUATION, YET I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO PUT IT INTO WORDS AS YOU DID. AWESOME JOB!!!!
AFTER READING THE RESEARCH ON THE FEUD BETWEEN JOHN, JOYCE, AND SUZANNE, I HAVE ANALYZED THE SITUATION AS WELL AS THE PEOPLE INVOLVED. WITH MY PROFESSIONAL TRAINING IN SOCIAL WORK AND PSYCHOLOGY OF HUMAN BEINGS, I WOULD SAY THAT SUZANNE SUFFERS FROM A DISEASE CALLED "POOR SELF-ESTEEM AND LOW SELF-WORTH." (THAT IS NOT REALLY A DISEASE IN THE BOOKS, PERSAY, BUT I CALL IT ONE). HER ATTEMPT TO INCREASE HER SALARY IN THE 70'S WITH THE TC SHOW, HER GREEDINESS, AND THE NEED FOR SOMETHING MATERIALISTIC LIKE MONEY, WAS ALL IN THE NEED TO MAKE HER FEEL BETTER ABOUT HERSELF. IN DEFENDING THE ATTEMPT FOR MORE MONEY, SHE CLAIMED HERSELF AS THE "STAR" OF THE SHOW AND PROCEEDED TO AGREE WITH HER MANAGER ALAN IN MAKING HERSELF SOMETHING BIGGER THAN SHE REALLY WAS. IN FAILING AT HER ATTEMPT, SHE SUCEEDED IN ONE THING.....AND THAT WAS HURTING MANY PEOPLE IN THE PROCESS OF HER SELFISH ACTIONS AND NEEDS. THEN, IN TRYING TO MAKE UP FOR HER FAULTS, SHE HAS SUCEEDED IN HER OWN LINE OF PRODUCTS AND MANY TOP SELLING BOOKS. SHE HAS ALSO SUFFERED THE PAIN OF GOING THROUGH BREAST CANCER, WHICH MY MOTHER HAS ALSO GONE THROUGH......AND I WILL FOREVER BE PROUD OF THOSE WOMEN WHO FIGHT THE CANCER AND WIN. I AM HONESTLY PROUD OF HER FOR ACCOMPLISHING THESE THINGS--AND, AT TIMES, WATCH THE HSN WHEN SHE IS ON. I MUST CONCLUDE THAT MY THOUGHT OF HER HAVING A LOW SELF-ESTEEM AND LOW SELF-WORTH, STILL IS PRESENT. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN I HAVE WATCHED HER ON SOME OF THE SHOWS THAT SHE HAS RECENTLY PARTICIPATED IN TO ADVERTISE HER NEW BOOK, SHE APPEARS TO BE VERY EGOTISTICAL AND FLAUNTS HER SUCCESSES. ANOTHER SYMPTOM OF A LOW SELF-ESTEEM IS THAT OF EGOTISITICAL THOUGHTS AND EXPRESSIONS IN ATTEMPT TO MAKE THEMSELVES LOOK GOOD OR BETTER THAN OTHERS. HER CHEAP SHOTS AT JOYCE HAVE ALSO APPEARED TO BE THE LACK OF CONFIDENCE IN HERSELF. ANYWAY-----I FEEL THAT SUZANNE AND JOYCE BOTH HAVE HAD THIER STRUGGLES WITH ANGER CONCERNING THE SITUATION. IN MY OPINION, JOYCE HAS DEALT WITH HER ANGER AND HURT----ALTHOUGH SHE WILL NEVER FORGET IT. IT IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF ANGER THOUGH......BECAUSE SHE WAS THE VICTIM, NOT THE PERPATRATOR. FOR SUZANNE, SHE IS HOLDING IN MUCH ANGER AND GUILT THAT SHE DOES NOT WANT TO EVER LET OUT; FURTHERMORE, THIS IS ANOTHER REASON FOR HER CHEAP SHOTS TOWARDS JOYCE. SUZANNE, DEEP DOWN, KNOWS SHE IS THE ONE AT FAULT. HOLDING IN THAT ANGER AND GUILT FOR SO LONG WITHOUT HEALING CAN CAUSE THE MIND TO OVERWORK ITSELF. SUZANNE, IN RETURN, HAS NO PROBLEM MAKING HERSELF FEEL BETTER BY TELLING THE WORLD HOW RIGHT SHE WAS, HOW BRAVE SHE WAS, HOW JOYCE NEEDS TO DEAL WITH HER ANGER, OH AND MY FAVORITE LINE----HOW JOHN AND I HAVE ALWAYS LOVED EACH OTHER AND HE HAS ALWAYS LOVED ME. NOT TO MENTION.......ANOTHER WAY THAT SHE MAKES HERSELF FEEL BETTER------IS ALL THE PLASTIC SURGERY. I COULD GO ON ABOUT THIS EVEN MORE.......BUT I AM GOING TO STOP HERE. SORRY IF THIS OFFENDS ANYONE, WHICH I AM SURE IT WILL. I JUST WANTED TO SUPPORT J CONDON AND GIVE MY PERSPECTIVE. |
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Three's Company," Suzanne Somers says she still doesn't speak to co-star Joyce DeWitt. This just shows how SS is lying! I bought some articles on ebay that were suppossed to be on Joyce and one ended up being an interview on SS talking about Joyce. Where it says: "Guess who called me twice today?" an excited Somers told viewers. "It was Joyce DeWitt!" I haven't talked to her in more then 20 years- ever since the show went off the air" "If we were to find each other face to face in some situation, maybe we could hug-that would be nice," she said. Now, she can't wait to speak with her old co-star. "It was nice that she called," says Somers. "We need to talk" So they have talked before and if she so thinks that Joyce is the one that is angry why didn't she called Joyce? "All I've ever seen is when she says those awful things about me on those 'True Hollywood' shows. …I look at her and think, 'Joyce, you are going to get sick carrying around this kind of anger.'" I think that story kinda made people think differently about SS. I know it made me think way differently. People kinda felt sorry for her and saw how it was mainly her husband's fault that her career was going down. And the last part about Joyce getting sick!??! SS knows that the media loves this kinda mess. She is putting Joyce on the spot (like JC said) by doing this b/c she knows they will probably ask Joyce about this at some point and Joyce will reply and the game will keep going. And the words that she uses and how she uses them are awful. She is the one that sounds like she is frustarted b/c Joyce will reply with a diplomatic answer. Somers says she wanted to give Ritter a "proper send-off" at the Emmy Awards show, which aired the week after he died. A proper send-off!?! HOW!??! she didn't talk to him for such a long time, how can she give him a proper send off when they had spent so much time without knowing what was going on w/the other!?!? So she called a television academy honcho to propose a tribute to Ritter that would have involved both her and DeWitt -"I didn't ask her, but I knew she would" come together on stage. She "KNEW" Joyce would of done it?!?! HOW?!?! She just stated a few paragraphs above that her and Joyce hadn't talk in so many years, but she KNEW Joyce would of agreed!?!? And what makes her think Joyce would of agreed? After all the bad stuff she has said about her!? "The country had been waiting for a reunion," she says. "What a beautiful way to reunite without it being corny and phony. The focus would have been on John and how we loved John and it would have been so right!" I know this is going to sound super mean and rude of me but would that acutally be focused on John? She knew that she would be flooded w/interviews and stuff trying to know how it felt to be on stage w/Joyce after all the problems they had had. "It would have been such a television moment." Like JC said! She is so thinking of her self and what the benefits that would have brought her. "Instead, they had Henry Winkler walk out and say, 'We won't remember John Ritter just for his pratfalls' or something like that. I really don't know much about John but I do beleive that Henry was one of his closest best friends. He has all the right to do the tribute. SS spent, what 3-4 years, working along with John? And they then didn't speak for a long time?! What makes her think she has more of an advantage? Henry had way more rights to do the tribute than her. How can she even think that she has was going to be chosen over him? "It was unbelievable, stupid. … It's an old group at the Emmys - gray hair and old-fart thinking," she says. Stupid was what she did to the show back then. She knew they needed her and wanted to take advantage of it. But they showed her that she was needed but NOT necessary for the show to succeed. The show still went on, maybe not as wow as when she was there but it went on! "They thought I was a dumb blond like the character I played. … My feeling is how dumb for John and Joyce that they didn't back me up. Because they could have got whatever I got." There she goes again putting words into other people's mouths. She doesn't know if John and/or Joyce thought she was a dumb blond, they might of thought her way of thinking she was not really the most apropiate, but not dumb. AND AGAIN THERE SHE GOES THINKING ABOUT MONEY!~ As SHE calls them Dumb for not backing her up. Why would they risk their career? Why would John risk his family's well being, and lose his job for backing her up? They were happy with what they had and who they were. ![]()
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