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Snowie · 03-11-2004, 02:11 PM

Hi all,

I'm from the Czech Republic and I adore The Nanny show. I can't believe they didn't broadcast the show here before, but better than never, right?

Ok, I spend all my free time seeking pictures and videos and all that similar stuff about Fran. I found lots of pics already, but had no success with videos.
Tell me. Are there any free videos online that fans of the show made or something like that? It would be great if you could help.

Thanks!

Danny

Kristen · 03-11-2004, 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by Snowie
Hi all,

I'm from the Czech Republic and I adore The Nanny show. I can't believe they didn't broadcast the show here before, but better than never, right?
Ok, I spend all my free time seeking pictures and videos and all that similar stuff about Fran. I found lots of pics already, but had no success with videos.
Tell me. Are there any free videos online that fans of the show made or something like that? It would be great if you could help.

Thanks!

Danny

First of all,

We love newbies hehe! Now, about your question, the best place to go is the Really Unofficial Nanny Homepage (RUNHP) b/c they have links to everything you're looking for there. There's a Fran/Max video there using the song "It's All Coming Back to Me Now" by Celine Dion that you should see. There are some foriegn sites (not in English) which have video clips and bloopers and stuff. You can find those through the RUNHP links too.

Hope that helps!

Kristen

Snowie · 03-12-2004, 02:48 PM

I just checked the site, but I wasn't able to find any links of vids. Would you mind to write me some exact links, please? (for more stupid people, you know..)

thanks for welcome

Kristen · 03-12-2004, 06:34 PM

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Originally posted by Snowie
I just checked the site, but I wasn't able to find any links of vids. Would you mind to write me some exact links, please? (for more stupid people, you know..)

thanks for welcome

Well, the RUNHP doesn't really have links to individual videos, but they have links to sites that do. It can be tough to find them, though, b/c as I said, most of the sites are not in English.

The German Fran Drescher Homepage is really good. Lots of videos there.

The Nanny Museum is also a good site for videos.

Hope that helps! If you need anymore help, please ask!
Kristen

Rill · 03-13-2004, 04:46 AM

Danny! Hope you have fun with the video clips! Do you watch the show dubbed??

Snowie · 03-13-2004, 10:11 AM

Thanks. I already looked at some of the vids and they're really great.

Yeah, I've got to watch the show in Czech, but it's not so bad. I think that Fran has a perfect and fitting voice in Czech. I think it suits her very well. The truth is, I would love to have the show even in English, but I'm still looking for the right dvds. Haven't found any yet.

I also loved 'Beautician and the Beast', but unfortunately I didn't record it, because I didn't know how great it would be..

Well, my obsession is so great that I force my whole family to watch it all with me.

I think that Fran is absolutely wonderful actress. It's just pity that I'm stuck in this small country where she isn't really known, so it's always a problem to find some movies and all..

God bless to internet..

Rill · 03-13-2004, 11:25 AM

Yeah, I know what you mean. I watch the show dubbed, too. I'm from Germany. The dubbing is very well done and the voices work fine. Nevertheless it's fun to get to see it in English. I got the chance to watch three episodes in English and it was great fun!

I noticed that there are some things that can't get translated. Amazingly the show still "works" here. How do they handle the Yiddish parts in Czech for example? Here they alsmost get lost.

Unfortunatley The Nanny isn't available on DVD yet. There's a petition to sign at http://www.petitiononline.com/nanny/petition.html

Snowie · 03-13-2004, 11:35 AM

Sorry, but I don't know what "Yiddish" means.

It's really pity "The Nanny" isn't available on dvds yet. It's odd, because it's been a long time since their finished shooting, right?
Well, I suppose you don't know something about posters of The Nanny? Are there any?

BTW-How long have they been broadcasting the show in Germany?

Rill · 03-13-2004, 01:16 PM

I found a definition of Yiddish on the web. Here it comes:

"Yiddish language, member of the West Germanic group of the Germanic subfamily of the Indo-European family of languages. Although it is not a national language, Yiddish is spoken by about 4 million Jews all over the world, especially in Argentina, Canada, France, Israel, Mexico, Romania, and the U.S. Before the annihilation of 6 million Jews by the Nazis, Yiddish was the tongue of more than 11 million people. Yiddish, although it is not a national language, is spoken by Jews all over the world. It arose (c.1100) out of a blend of a number of German dialects in the ghettos of Central Europe, and from there it spread to other parts of the world. Phonetically, Yiddish is closer to Middle High German than is modern German. Its vocabulary is basically German, but it has been enlarged by borrowings from Hebrew, Slavic, Romance languages, and English." For more info: The Yiddish Homepage

Fran's a Jewish girl from Queens so she uses Yiddish words to describe things and emotions. It's part of the fun to get to hear these words in English because it sounds "unusual" in some way compared with the "normal" English, I think. (Correct me if I'm wrong! I'm not a native speaker so I can just try to explain it from my point of view.) Here in Germany the Yiddish jokes aren't translated because they make no sense. The meaning of Yiddish words are too close to German words so it's dull to translate it. What they did here is give Fran a more modern or teenage language style. Max and Niles speak very clear German on the contrary. (No British English here either!) So how weird is dubbing!? lol

Here's an example where Niles uses a Yiddish word to mimic Fran:
Niles: Oh please. 'Oh Mr. Sheffield, ya mind if I dust your desk with my touchas?'
("From Flushing With Love")

Yes, it's been quite a time since they stopped shooting The Nanny. The show ran from 1993 - 1999 in the US. It came to German in 1995. At least that's what they say at the ImDB. They made a break airing it in 1999 or 2000 and now they are running the show on a private TV Channel again. I'm so happy about that!

About the posters and stuff... You can try to find things at Ebay. That might be the best source. I've seen auctions for the show there.

Kristen · 03-13-2004, 04:51 PM

Wow, I had no idea they didn't use the Yiddish words when the show was dubbed! I guess I never really thought about it, LOL. If you're curious about the meanings of some of the words used on the show, I suggest you check out Lifetime's website. They're the station that plays "The Nanny" here in the US. http://www.lifetimetv.com/shows/nanny/index.html Click on "Lip Shtick" to get to their Yiddish glossary. They even give an example from the show for each word! Hope that helps!

Kristen

Snowie · 03-14-2004, 03:36 AM

wow, this was really comprehensive explanation. I know what you meant now and no, they don't translate the Yiddish things here. As you said, Fran speaks rather by "teenage language", while everyone else speaks "normal".

I mostly get what's funny, but sometimes there is a hint at something we don't know here- especially some people that are known only in US,..

They brodcast now the second season here, so I wonder if it's gonna continue. There are sometimes stupid people that direct the tv, so it's more than possible they'll stop it for some time and then start again or not at all..

It happened with "Charmed" , and "The Lost World" had 3 seasons- each season during one summer holiday, so it lasted almost three years till I could watch every episode.

Rill · 03-14-2004, 06:31 AM

That's a cool link! Thanks Kristen! I found the word Shmuck at the Lifetime Yiddish "dictionary"! That's a good example of what I'd try to explain about dubbing. The German word for "Shmuck" is "Schmuck" so the joke would be gone when they simple use that word in the translation. Weird, huh? Some other Yiddish words are completely different though.

BTW that reminds me of "The Passed Over Story". There's that scene when Fran arrives home and meets Niles in the kitchen. He's cooking for Sylvia's dinner and Fran asks him what he's cooking. Niles uses a lot Yiddish in that scene to the amusement of Fran. There was Yiddish usage in the dubbed version, too. But I'd looove to know what Niles said in the English version. Maybe someone remembers that scene and could help??? I really enjoyed that episode and would looove to know!

Kristen · 03-14-2004, 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by Rill
That's a cool link! Thanks Kristen! I found the word Shmuck at the Lifetime Yiddish "dictionary"! That's a good example of what I'd try to explain about dubbing. The German word for "Shmuck" is "Schmuck" so the joke would be gone when they simple use that word in the translation. Weird, huh? Some other Yiddish words are completely different though.

BTW that reminds me of "The Passed Over Story". There's that scene when Fran arrives home and meets Niles in the kitchen. He's cooking for Sylvia's dinner and Fran asks him what he's cooking. Niles uses a lot Yiddish in that scene to the amusement of Fran. There was Yiddish usage in the dubbed version, too. But I'd looove to know what Niles said in the English version. Maybe someone remembers that scene and could help??? I really enjoyed that episode and would looove to know!

You're welcome! I remember the scene you're talking about. Unfortunately, I don't have the ep. on tape, but I do remember Niles saying he'd been "eating like a chazir," which thanks to a Yiddish dictionary, I learned means "pig." So, in other words, Niles was eating a great deal as he was cooking. If memory serves, that was the only Yiddish word he used in that scene. But he did start to talk like a Jewish moher, "My pants I can't zip, and when are you gonna get married already?!" hehe.

While we're on the subject of Yiddish and dubbing, what do they do for the "friends" scene in "Tart With Heart"? In the English version, Max and Fran both use several Yiddish words to decribe Max's emotional state. I don't even know what the all mean! LOL!

Kristen

Rill · 03-15-2004, 05:18 PM

Thanks for quoting! Chazir sounds cool! Here the "pig" changed into a "rabbit". lol I think Niles says "Haserl" which is a dialect form of the German word "Hase" (=rabbit). When you speak it, it sounds nearly like Chazir!! That's cleverly done! Amazing!! When Niles acts like the Jewish mother he says here: "My belly is driving me crazy! When will you finally get married?" That's pretty close, too. They use informal speech here. They have to make the German lines fit the English ones. I've heard English lines and even emphasis is pretty close to what they say in English.

Interesting question about Tart with the Heart. I can't remember any usage of Yiddish in that dialog. I looked at Barb's site to see what exactly they say but unfortunately there isn't the dialogs with the Yiddish parts.

Too bad. I think I don't have this episode on tape yet. So I can't check but I'm pretty sure they didn't have Yiddish words. My guess is that they used modern language and metaphors to describe Max' emotions.

Kristen · 03-15-2004, 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by Rill
Thanks for quoting! Chazir sounds cool! Here the "pig" changed into a "rabbit". lol I think Niles says "Haserl" which is a dialect form of the German word "Hase" (=rabbit). When you speak it, it sounds nearly like Chazir!! That's cleverly done! Amazing!! When Niles acts like the Jewish mother he says here: "My belly is driving me crazy! When will you finally get married?" That's pretty close, too. They use informal speech here. They have to make the German lines fit the English ones. I've heard English lines and even emphasis is pretty close to what they say in English.

Interesting question about Tart with the Heart. I can't remember any usage of Yiddish in that dialog. I looked at Barb's site to see what exactly they say but unfortunately there isn't the dialogs with the Yiddish parts. Too bad. I think I don't have this episode on tape yet. So I can't check but I'm pretty sure they didn't have Yiddish words. My guess is that they used modern language and metaphors to describe Max' emotions.

Thanks for trying to answer my question about "Tart With Heart." It's one of my favorites. I could try to transcribe the English version for you if you want from my tape, but it would be difficult since it's hard to know how to spell some of the Yiddish words! And of course, if you can't spell it, it's difficult to look up what it means! hehe. It's a pretty cute scene, as Max and Fran try to find the Yiddish word to fit exactly what he's feeling.

About the "pig" thing, I find it interesting that it's changed to "rabbit" in German. B/c, in English, there's an expression "To make a pig of yourself," in other words, to eat a lot. I wouldn't think a rabbit would make quite as much sense in that context. But it is clever how the Yiddish and German words are so close! I never knew that.

Kristen

03-11-2004, 02:11 PM	#1
Snowie Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 11, 2004 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 5	I'm a newbie here and need your help Hi all, I'm from the Czech Republic and I adore The Nanny show. I can't believe they didn't broadcast the show here before, but better than never, right? Ok, I spend all my free time seeking pictures and videos and all that similar stuff about Fran. I found lots of pics already, but had no success with videos. Tell me. Are there any free videos online that fans of the show made or something like that? It would be great if you could help. Thanks! Danny

03-14-2004, 06:31 AM	#12
Rill Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 11, 2003 Posts: 170	Yiddish in "The Passed Over Story" That's a cool link! Thanks Kristen! I found the word Shmuck at the Lifetime Yiddish "dictionary"! That's a good example of what I'd try to explain about dubbing. The German word for "Shmuck" is "Schmuck" so the joke would be gone when they simple use that word in the translation. Weird, huh? Some other Yiddish words are completely different though. BTW that reminds me of "The Passed Over Story". There's that scene when Fran arrives home and meets Niles in the kitchen. He's cooking for Sylvia's dinner and Fran asks him what he's cooking. Niles uses a lot Yiddish in that scene to the amusement of Fran. There was Yiddish usage in the dubbed version, too. But I'd looove to know what Niles said in the English version. Maybe someone remembers that scene and could help??? I really enjoyed that episode and would looove to know!

03-15-2004, 05:18 PM	#14
Rill Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 11, 2003 Posts: 170	Tart with Heart Thanks for quoting! Chazir sounds cool! Here the "pig" changed into a "rabbit". lol I think Niles says "Haserl" which is a dialect form of the German word "Hase" (=rabbit). When you speak it, it sounds nearly like Chazir!! That's cleverly done! Amazing!! When Niles acts like the Jewish mother he says here: "My belly is driving me crazy! When will you finally get married?" That's pretty close, too. They use informal speech here. They have to make the German lines fit the English ones. I've heard English lines and even emphasis is pretty close to what they say in English. Interesting question about Tart with the Heart. I can't remember any usage of Yiddish in that dialog. I looked at Barb's site to see what exactly they say but unfortunately there isn't the dialogs with the Yiddish parts. Too bad. I think I don't have this episode on tape yet. So I can't check but I'm pretty sure they didn't have Yiddish words. My guess is that they used modern language and metaphors to describe Max' emotions.

03-12-2004, 02:48 PM	#3
Snowie Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 11, 2004 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 5	I just checked the site, but I wasn't able to find any links of vids. Would you mind to write me some exact links, please? (for more stupid people, you know..) thanks for welcome

03-13-2004, 04:46 AM	#5
Rill Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 11, 2003 Posts: 170	Danny! Hope you have fun with the video clips! Do you watch the show dubbed??

03-13-2004, 10:11 AM	#6
Snowie Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 11, 2004 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 5	Thanks. I already looked at some of the vids and they're really great. Yeah, I've got to watch the show in Czech, but it's not so bad. I think that Fran has a perfect and fitting voice in Czech. I think it suits her very well. The truth is, I would love to have the show even in English, but I'm still looking for the right dvds. Haven't found any yet. I also loved 'Beautician and the Beast', but unfortunately I didn't record it, because I didn't know how great it would be.. Well, my obsession is so great that I force my whole family to watch it all with me. I think that Fran is absolutely wonderful actress. It's just pity that I'm stuck in this small country where she isn't really known, so it's always a problem to find some movies and all.. God bless to internet..

03-13-2004, 11:25 AM	#7
Rill Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 11, 2003 Posts: 170	Yeah, I know what you mean. I watch the show dubbed, too. I'm from Germany. The dubbing is very well done and the voices work fine. Nevertheless it's fun to get to see it in English. I got the chance to watch three episodes in English and it was great fun! I noticed that there are some things that can't get translated. Amazingly the show still "works" here. How do they handle the Yiddish parts in Czech for example? Here they alsmost get lost. Unfortunatley The Nanny isn't available on DVD yet. There's a petition to sign at http://www.petitiononline.com/nanny/petition.html

03-13-2004, 11:35 AM	#8
Snowie Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 11, 2004 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 5	Sorry, but I don't know what "Yiddish" means. It's really pity "The Nanny" isn't available on dvds yet. It's odd, because it's been a long time since their finished shooting, right? Well, I suppose you don't know something about posters of The Nanny? Are there any? BTW-How long have they been broadcasting the show in Germany?

03-13-2004, 01:16 PM	#9
Rill Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 11, 2003 Posts: 170	I found a definition of Yiddish on the web. Here it comes: "Yiddish language, member of the West Germanic group of the Germanic subfamily of the Indo-European family of languages. Although it is not a national language, Yiddish is spoken by about 4 million Jews all over the world, especially in Argentina, Canada, France, Israel, Mexico, Romania, and the U.S. Before the annihilation of 6 million Jews by the Nazis, Yiddish was the tongue of more than 11 million people. Yiddish, although it is not a national language, is spoken by Jews all over the world. It arose (c.1100) out of a blend of a number of German dialects in the ghettos of Central Europe, and from there it spread to other parts of the world. Phonetically, Yiddish is closer to Middle High German than is modern German. Its vocabulary is basically German, but it has been enlarged by borrowings from Hebrew, Slavic, Romance languages, and English." For more info: The Yiddish Homepage Fran's a Jewish girl from Queens so she uses Yiddish words to describe things and emotions. It's part of the fun to get to hear these words in English because it sounds "unusual" in some way compared with the "normal" English, I think. (Correct me if I'm wrong! I'm not a native speaker so I can just try to explain it from my point of view.) Here in Germany the Yiddish jokes aren't translated because they make no sense. The meaning of Yiddish words are too close to German words so it's dull to translate it. What they did here is give Fran a more modern or teenage language style. Max and Niles speak very clear German on the contrary. (No British English here either!) So how weird is dubbing!? lol Here's an example where Niles uses a Yiddish word to mimic Fran: Niles: Oh please. 'Oh Mr. Sheffield, ya mind if I dust your desk with my touchas?' ("From Flushing With Love") Yes, it's been quite a time since they stopped shooting The Nanny. The show ran from 1993 - 1999 in the US. It came to German in 1995. At least that's what they say at the ImDB. They made a break airing it in 1999 or 2000 and now they are running the show on a private TV Channel again. I'm so happy about that! About the posters and stuff... You can try to find things at Ebay. That might be the best source. I've seen auctions for the show there.

03-13-2004, 04:51 PM	#10
Kristen Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jul 17, 2000 Location: New York, USA Posts: 4,042	Wow, I had no idea they didn't use the Yiddish words when the show was dubbed! I guess I never really thought about it, LOL. If you're curious about the meanings of some of the words used on the show, I suggest you check out Lifetime's website. They're the station that plays "The Nanny" here in the US. http://www.lifetimetv.com/shows/nanny/index.html Click on "Lip Shtick" to get to their Yiddish glossary. They even give an example from the show for each word! Hope that helps! Kristen

03-14-2004, 03:36 AM	#11
Snowie Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 11, 2004 Location: Czech Republic Posts: 5	wow, this was really comprehensive explanation. I know what you meant now and no, they don't translate the Yiddish things here. As you said, Fran speaks rather by "teenage language", while everyone else speaks "normal". I mostly get what's funny, but sometimes there is a hint at something we don't know here- especially some people that are known only in US,.. They brodcast now the second season here, so I wonder if it's gonna continue. There are sometimes stupid people that direct the tv, so it's more than possible they'll stop it for some time and then start again or not at all.. It happened with "Charmed" , and "The Lost World" had 3 seasons- each season during one summer holiday, so it lasted almost three years till I could watch every episode.