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UMfan77 · 02-19-2004, 06:42 PM

The tragic story about the murders of bestfriends Diana Shawcroft and Jennifer Lueth really bothers me, the segment about them aired Wednesday night and I didn't sleep well after watching it. They were in my dreams and I kept waking up. I was a walking zombie at work today with the lack of sleep. The fact that Diana and Jennifer's bodies were found on top of each other in the middle of a desert really freaks me out. The police in the segment said that they were friends with everyone they met, even strangers, making it really difficult to pinpoint any suspects. The blue truck is their only clue to go on. I wonder if there were any updates, none were shown on UM last night though.

gaf · 02-19-2004, 09:21 PM

Wasn't that horrible? I thought it was creepy when the girls' pictures at the memorial site had been taken out of the frames.

I hope those families get justice soon.

Kane · 02-21-2004, 02:52 PM

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Originally posted by UMfan77
I wonder if there were any updates, none were shown on UM last night though.

Unfortunately, the murders are still unsolved. However, here is a link to a web site which pays homage to Jennifer Lueth. (It also makes mention of Diana Shawcroft.)

http://www.geocities.com/dslu99/closing.htm

Hambone2421 · 05-02-2013, 08:32 AM

I wish we could discuss this case more as its such a sad, disturbing case. The problem is, there aren't many avenues to discuss. The only lead is a man in a blue truck that no one seems to know.

The fact that law enforcement has checked their friends and acquaintances for a male who drives a truck like or sinmilar to that truck and could not find anything makes me think it was a complete stranger or possibly someone they had just met either that night or a recent night at a club, bar, etc. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this case?

Hockeygirl · 05-02-2013, 10:38 AM

I reread their article on Wiki to refresh my memory.

I think the chilling part is their loved ones set up a memorial on the spot were they were found. 4 years later their pictures were removed from the frames. The police said the only ones who knew about the spot was the families and the killer(s). (since the location wasn't made public.)

And that the area was was only accessible with the help of a pick up truck or four wheel drive.

Sad, sad case. I hope one day their families get answers and their killer(s) are brought to justice.

Hambone2421 · 05-02-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hockeygirl

I reread their article on Wiki to refresh my memory.

I think the chilling part is their loved ones set up a memorial on the spot were they were found. 4 years later their pictures were removed from the frames. The police said the only ones who knew about the spot was the families and the killer(s). (since the location wasn't made public.)

And that the area was was only accessible with the help of a pick up truck or four wheel drive.

Sad, sad case. I hope one day their families get answers and their killer(s) are brought to justice.

I cant remember but were the victims sexually assaulted?

MegtheEgg86 · 05-02-2013, 11:39 AM

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I cant remember but were the victims sexually assaulted?

It wasn't revealed in the segment. In fact, I remember RS saying the cause of death was being withheld, and that piece of narration made it to the Farina version as well.

Hockeygirl · 05-02-2013, 11:46 AM

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It wasn't revealed in the segment. In fact, I remember RS saying the cause of death was being withheld, and that piece of narration made it to the Farina version as well.

That's what two of the articles I read said.

Does anyone know or have a clue why they won't release the cause of death ? Could it hurt the investigation ?

Hambone2421 · 05-02-2013, 11:46 AM

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It wasn't revealed in the segment. In fact, I remember RS saying the cause of death was being withheld, and that piece of narration made it to the Farina version as well.

Yea, I couldn't remember them saying and I always figured that they wanted to withhold it in case a witness or a person of interest slipped up.

mwcarolina · 05-02-2013, 10:15 PM

yeah, that case is sad. I tend to think that the guy in the truck was the guy who did the crime, but of course, that's just guessing. the problem is that we don't know who that guy was. and yes, they haven't said how they died as they are holding that info in case they get a suspect.

MegtheEgg86 · 05-03-2013, 03:49 AM

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Yea, I couldn't remember them saying and I always figured that they wanted to withhold it in case a witness or a person of interest slipped up.

Yeah. It kind of freaks me out a little bit for some reason when it's explicitly stated a piece of information is being withheld.

As far as what happened to Jennifer and Diana, I don't know about the man in the blue truck being responsible. There were plenty of reports the girls were extremely socially active. That man could've dropped them off anywhere. I've never known what to make of this one for that reason.

Steve_uk · 05-03-2013, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MegtheEgg86

Yeah. It kind of freaks me out a little bit for some reason when it's explicitly stated a piece of information is being withheld.

As far as what happened to Jennifer and Diana, I don't know about the man in the blue truck being responsible. There were plenty of reports the girls were extremely socially active. That man could've dropped them off anywhere. I've never known what to make of this one for that reason.

There seems to be so little information unless anyone else has some more pointers. There was a reference on the forbidden site to the Glendale Police website and following this there's a link I found here:http://www.glendaleaz.com/police/Col...ftandLueth.cfm

DanCart · 06-07-2013, 07:57 PM

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There seems to be so little information unless anyone else has some more pointers. There was a reference on the forbidden site to the Glendale Police website and following this there's a link I found here:http://www.glendaleaz.com/police/Col...ftandLueth.cfm

If you type in the girls names in youtube there is a news video that was done recently wre the cold case investigator speaks about this case ...

DanCart · 06-07-2013, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Hambone2421

Yea, I couldn't remember them saying and I always figured that they wanted to withhold it in case a witness or a person of interest slipped up.

It makes a lot of sense to withhold such info since a lot of nut-jobs and wackos bombard cops with false confessions ( like in other UM cases) , at least they can quickly weed them out and not waste time investigating them further, just look at how a false confession in the Tracey Kirkpatrick case tunnel visioned the investigators for some years .......

DanCart · 06-07-2013, 08:06 PM

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I cant remember but were the victims sexually assaulted?

Its most likely they were. The fact that the killer may have stolen their photos from the memorial at the crime scene suggests he wanted them as a momento or trophy and such types of criminals are sexually motivated hence its highly likely the girls were sexually assaulted pre and post mortem ...... the fact that the killer returned to the scene of the body dumps makes me suspect a guy who is capable of post mortem sexual assualts

2 good examples of such criminals is Bundy and Ridgeway who returned to were they dumped their victims and had sex with their corpses .........

02-19-2004, 06:42 PM	#1
UMfan77 Member Senior Member Join Date: Nov 28, 2003 Posts: 1,064	Diana Shawcroft and Jennifer Lueth The tragic story about the murders of bestfriends Diana Shawcroft and Jennifer Lueth really bothers me, the segment about them aired Wednesday night and I didn't sleep well after watching it. They were in my dreams and I kept waking up. I was a walking zombie at work today with the lack of sleep. The fact that Diana and Jennifer's bodies were found on top of each other in the middle of a desert really freaks me out. The police in the segment said that they were friends with everyone they met, even strangers, making it really difficult to pinpoint any suspects. The blue truck is their only clue to go on. I wonder if there were any updates, none were shown on UM last night though.

02-19-2004, 09:21 PM	#2
gaf Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Dec 02, 2003 Location: Kansas Posts: 94	Wasn't that horrible? I thought it was creepy when the girls' pictures at the memorial site had been taken out of the frames. I hope those families get justice soon.

05-02-2013, 08:32 AM	#4
Hambone2421 Member Senior Member Join Date: Dec 08, 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 2,066	I wish we could discuss this case more as its such a sad, disturbing case. The problem is, there aren't many avenues to discuss. The only lead is a man in a blue truck that no one seems to know. The fact that law enforcement has checked their friends and acquaintances for a male who drives a truck like or sinmilar to that truck and could not find anything makes me think it was a complete stranger or possibly someone they had just met either that night or a recent night at a club, bar, etc. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this case?

05-02-2013, 10:38 AM	#5
Hockeygirl Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Nov 03, 2012 Location: Somewhere in Canada. Posts: 51	I reread their article on Wiki to refresh my memory. I think the chilling part is their loved ones set up a memorial on the spot were they were found. 4 years later their pictures were removed from the frames. The police said the only ones who knew about the spot was the families and the killer(s). (since the location wasn't made public.) And that the area was was only accessible with the help of a pick up truck or four wheel drive. Sad, sad case. I hope one day their families get answers and their killer(s) are brought to justice.

05-02-2013, 10:15 PM	#10
mwcarolina Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 01, 2010 Location: nc Posts: 466	yeah, that case is sad. I tend to think that the guy in the truck was the guy who did the crime, but of course, that's just guessing. the problem is that we don't know who that guy was. and yes, they haven't said how they died as they are holding that info in case they get a suspect.