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Joe F · 08-08-2003, 02:07 AM

I did buy MTM Season 1. Inside was a slip of paper telling us to watch for Season 2 this March.

They know a good portion of the sales depend on the knowledge that the whole series will some day soon be available.

Sorry, but I'm sitting this one out until there are solid promises. Get fooled once, shame on them. Get fooled twice, shame on me.

jaime_weinman · 08-08-2003, 02:13 AM

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They know a good portion of the sales depend on the knowledge that the whole series will some day soon be available.

Do you think it is a good idea for a company to put out product that doesn't make back its cost? More to the point, if you were running a DVD division, would you release more seasons of a series if the first season flopped? I don't like entertainment companies any more than the next person, but they're not running a charity or a TV preservation society.

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Sorry, but I'm sitting this one out until there are solid promises. Get fooled once, shame on them. Get fooled twice, shame on me.

No one can guarantee to release more seasons of the show, not unless we can guarantee them that they'll make their money back -- and the only way to do that is to buy the first sets. If enough people take an "all or nothing" attitude, and demand that companies guarantee the whole series whether or not they can sell it -- then there will be no more sets. Shame indeed.

Joe F · 08-08-2003, 01:31 PM

My point is that with MTM, they told us seasons would be released every six months, went so far as to include a note in the Season 1 box telling us when they planned to release Season 2.

Of course this isn't a charity, and they should be entitled to profit.

If they weren't happy with the financial results, they should have tried changes, Perhaps a lower price on Season 2. Perhaps going to the rights holders and telling them they have to charge a lower fee.

The bottom line is that the package itself probably costs about $5 to make. Distribution would add another $1-3, depending on the volume. There's money to be made, depending on royalties and expectations. If they lost money on Season 1, there's plenty of room to make changes so that wouldn't happen on Season 2, even with a price cut. They didn't even market the set, which probably helped lead to the disappointing sales.

A lot of these companies (and this is their right, of course) can't see the future past the next six months. They have no problem making a promise one year, and breaking it the next.

All I'm saying is that we need to get the message out that we (and, obviously, this may not apply to all of us) want the full series, and we're going to feel burned if that never becomes available. That might put pressure on Fox and others to market, price and negotiate fees in a very different manner.

What made me very excited about Doug's project (and it's still on his web site - a promise that still looks like it may be unfulfilled) was that he was going to make all 158 episodes available in a set. I actually haven't watched DVD on TVLand for about two years, anticipating this set.

BlueEyesKid · 08-18-2003, 01:28 PM

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Originally posted by Joe F
All I'm saying is that we need to get the message out that we (and, obviously, this may not apply to all of us) want the full series, and we're going to feel burned if that never becomes available. That might put pressure on Fox and others to market, price and negotiate fees in a very different manner.

Do you mean like, write letters/email/call the company and tell them or...am I missing something (LOL and I usually do)...?

Mr. Stefani · 08-21-2003, 04:00 PM

I can't wait for it to be released. I'm probably going to buy Season 2 first. I don't have the money for both, and I like season 2 better than 1. Its kind of weird that they are releasing seasons 1 and 2 on the same day. At least we'll have 2 seasons if they decide not to release the rest.

barwars · 10-11-2003, 11:15 AM

I cant wait.
Season 2 may have to wait a little while though....

headwalnut · 10-17-2003, 09:15 PM

I have received my Season One set of the DVDS DVDs and they are absolutely awesome!

For starters, you are going to love the packaging, lenticular, and slim line cases - and that's before you ever open the DVD case! The inserts of each of the cases are great and also have episode descriptions.

Once you drop the DVD in your player, it takes off and plays the DVDS theme and a montage of photos (from the classic opening).

Once the opening finishes, then you get your choice of watching all the episodes, a single episode (or any segment of an episode) or viewing the "extras" - which includes bonus footage, interviews, and/or an episode specific photo gallery. Very cool!

The digital reproduction and quality is fanatastic!! Here's to a giant thumbs up!!! And I most certainly still have my sense of humor.

B&W fan · 10-17-2003, 10:15 PM

David,

I'm very envious that you've already received your set. Since the street date isn't until next Tuesday, I presume you got yours thru some "connections." I know my set is in the mail as of today and I've got a shot at getting it Monday instead of Tuesday (it will depend on where it was shipped from), but I'm really surprised anyone got it this early.

It sounds awesome and I can't wait!!!! Thanks for that update!

B&W "boy, talk about your mouth watering with anticipation" fan

barwars · 10-18-2003, 08:50 AM

You say "slim line" cases, does that mean its similar to the Family Guy cases??

I hope so, because if not, itll take up a LOT of space on my shelf.

headwalnut · 10-18-2003, 09:08 AM

I am not familiar with the Family Guy cases.

But these cases are about half the thickness of a "typical" DVD plastic case.

barwars · 10-18-2003, 09:55 AM

Thanks for the info!
So, they are the same size as the Family Guy DVDs.

Thats good to hear, I cant wait until Tuesday.

Actually.... I can.
Dont want to go to school.
Gotta love the weekend.

Lolac · 10-18-2003, 08:30 PM

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Originally posted by headwalnut
I have received my Season One set of the DVDS DVDs and they are absolutely awesome!

Dear David, I cannot WAIT for my 2 sets to come this week. We on this board are wondering, however, why there has been virtually no marketing of these sets. Do you know why?

Lolac

barwars · 10-18-2003, 09:45 PM

They hardly ever advertise TV DVDs.

I saw these at the FYE in my mall tonight, and they look great! But Im waiting until tuesday, to get Season 2.
Itll be cheaper at either Best Buy or Wal Mart.

ddenoff · 10-20-2003, 04:13 PM

i'm planning to do an update tonite, but if you want to order, the link at the top will still give us credit for the order.

and then you can link thru amazon to the second season.

SO ORDER YOURSELVES CRAZY.

PS. Someone emailed me that they bought the DVD's yesterday in a Best Buy store!

I'm in NYC. They have a thing here called SEASONS! Fall IS my favorite.

ddenoff · 10-20-2003, 04:16 PM

but of course you knew that!

Hi Dave! just left you a voice mail

10-17-2003, 09:15 PM	#22
headwalnut Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 28, 2002 Location: Delmar, NY Posts: 52	The DVDs have arrived and are awesome! I have received my Season One set of the DVDS DVDs and they are absolutely awesome! For starters, you are going to love the packaging, lenticular, and slim line cases - and that's before you ever open the DVD case! The inserts of each of the cases are great and also have episode descriptions. Once you drop the DVD in your player, it takes off and plays the DVDS theme and a montage of photos (from the classic opening). Once the opening finishes, then you get your choice of watching all the episodes, a single episode (or any segment of an episode) or viewing the "extras" - which includes bonus footage, interviews, and/or an episode specific photo gallery. Very cool! The digital reproduction and quality is fanatastic!! Here's to a giant thumbs up!!! And I most certainly still have my sense of humor.
	__________________ David Van Deusen "Head Walnut"

10-17-2003, 10:15 PM	#23
B&W fan Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 09, 2002 Location: USA Posts: 589	David, I'm very envious that you've already received your set. Since the street date isn't until next Tuesday, I presume you got yours thru some "connections." I know my set is in the mail as of today and I've got a shot at getting it Monday instead of Tuesday (it will depend on where it was shipped from), but I'm really surprised anyone got it this early. It sounds awesome and I can't wait!!!! Thanks for that update! B&W "boy, talk about your mouth watering with anticipation" fan
	__________________ "Do not challenge supernatural, unless armed with sword of truth." Charlie Chan at Treasure Island

10-20-2003, 04:13 PM	#29
ddenoff Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 28, 2002 Location: new york Posts: 104	hey - i'm here and you can order i'm planning to do an update tonite, but if you want to order, the link at the top will still give us credit for the order. and then you can link thru amazon to the second season. SO ORDER YOURSELVES CRAZY. PS. Someone emailed me that they bought the DVD's yesterday in a Best Buy store! I'm in NYC. They have a thing here called SEASONS! Fall IS my favorite.

10-20-2003, 04:16 PM	#30
ddenoff Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 28, 2002 Location: new york Posts: 104	PS - The lenticulars were MY idea! but of course you knew that! Hi Dave! just left you a voice mail

08-08-2003, 02:07 AM	#16
Joe F Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 10, 2003 Posts: 65	I did buy MTM Season 1. Inside was a slip of paper telling us to watch for Season 2 this March. They know a good portion of the sales depend on the knowledge that the whole series will some day soon be available. Sorry, but I'm sitting this one out until there are solid promises. Get fooled once, shame on them. Get fooled twice, shame on me.

08-08-2003, 01:31 PM	#18
Joe F Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 10, 2003 Posts: 65	My point is that with MTM, they told us seasons would be released every six months, went so far as to include a note in the Season 1 box telling us when they planned to release Season 2. Of course this isn't a charity, and they should be entitled to profit. If they weren't happy with the financial results, they should have tried changes, Perhaps a lower price on Season 2. Perhaps going to the rights holders and telling them they have to charge a lower fee. The bottom line is that the package itself probably costs about $5 to make. Distribution would add another $1-3, depending on the volume. There's money to be made, depending on royalties and expectations. If they lost money on Season 1, there's plenty of room to make changes so that wouldn't happen on Season 2, even with a price cut. They didn't even market the set, which probably helped lead to the disappointing sales. A lot of these companies (and this is their right, of course) can't see the future past the next six months. They have no problem making a promise one year, and breaking it the next. All I'm saying is that we need to get the message out that we (and, obviously, this may not apply to all of us) want the full series, and we're going to feel burned if that never becomes available. That might put pressure on Fox and others to market, price and negotiate fees in a very different manner. What made me very excited about Doug's project (and it's still on his web site - a promise that still looks like it may be unfulfilled) was that he was going to make all 158 episodes available in a set. I actually haven't watched DVD on TVLand for about two years, anticipating this set.

08-21-2003, 04:00 PM	#20
Mr. Stefani Member Forum Celebrity Join Date: Jul 15, 2001 Posts: 20,757	I can't wait for it to be released. I'm probably going to buy Season 2 first. I don't have the money for both, and I like season 2 better than 1. Its kind of weird that they are releasing seasons 1 and 2 on the same day. At least we'll have 2 seasons if they decide not to release the rest.

10-11-2003, 11:15 AM	#21
barwars .. Forum Star Join Date: May 04, 2002 Posts: 13,273	I cant wait. Season 2 may have to wait a little while though....

10-18-2003, 08:50 AM	#24
barwars .. Forum Star Join Date: May 04, 2002 Posts: 13,273	You say "slim line" cases, does that mean its similar to the Family Guy cases?? I hope so, because if not, itll take up a LOT of space on my shelf.

10-18-2003, 09:08 AM	#25
headwalnut Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 28, 2002 Location: Delmar, NY Posts: 52	I am not familiar with the Family Guy cases. But these cases are about half the thickness of a "typical" DVD plastic case.

10-18-2003, 09:55 AM	#26
barwars .. Forum Star Join Date: May 04, 2002 Posts: 13,273	Thanks for the info! So, they are the same size as the Family Guy DVDs. Thats good to hear, I cant wait until Tuesday. Actually.... I can. Dont want to go to school. Gotta love the weekend.

10-18-2003, 09:45 PM	#28
barwars .. Forum Star Join Date: May 04, 2002 Posts: 13,273	They hardly ever advertise TV DVDs. I saw these at the FYE in my mall tonight, and they look great! But Im waiting until tuesday, to get Season 2. Itll be cheaper at either Best Buy or Wal Mart.