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dawsongirl · 05-14-2001, 10:24 PM

I don't know, but I had lived through some of the crap she lived through, I'd seem like a "bitch" too. Imagine how you would feel if you found out the one true love of your life was cheating on you. Personally, I'd go nuts. It was all a coping mechanism. Everyone does it.

TVFan · 05-14-2001, 10:41 PM

If Lucy was such a "Horrible" person, then why did people like, Bob and Madelyn, Many Directors,Gale Gordon, Viv and Mary Jane Croft, continue to work with her. Mary Jane told me that she loved working with Lucy. Yes if you didn't do something correctly or she didn't like she would tell you. But this is only if you weren't being professional. She was a human being like all of us, and we aren't all always so pleasant!

Bottom line! Lucy was an beautiful spirit on this planet. She brought so much love and healing to all she touched. She truly was amazing!

Patrick

desilu #1 · 05-15-2001, 09:37 PM

Patrick,
Thank You for saying those nice things about Lucy. I know she had been known to be a little hard on people at times at work,but
after all,it was her show and studio. She was
my idol and always will be and not to mention a very wonderful and dear friend. And
to whom it may concern,I have read every book
ever printed on this lovely lady and my opinon will never change.

Montgomery · 05-17-2001, 01:18 AM

Sorry. Looks like I touched a hot button. You all have good points. I guess mine was to see Lucy as a human, flaws and all. That's neither good or bad, just real. The bottom line I guess is, I love Lucy too! There you go.

jonesalana · 05-17-2001, 01:15 PM

Lucy A Bitch!!! I have grown up watching I Love Lucy...Find it hard to believe, but I guess it could be true!

Terry Ross · 05-19-2001, 07:56 PM

I think there is a happy medium in here. First of all, she was truly loyal to her friends (i.e. sending Carol Burnett flowers for her birthday on the very same day that she died). But there was another side to her: she wasn't the most loving mother and her two kids will admit to that. And there were actors who worked with her on her shows who despised her because of the way she treated them Right out of the mouths of Talula Bankhead, Richard Burton, and Milton Berle, she was mean and bossy. You can be a perfectist but not have to be mean at the same time.

We all saw the person she wanted us to see; funny, naive, emotional, a friend. I personally believe that she changed when her marriage to Desi Arnaz ended and I have a felling she was never the same again.

dawsongirl · 05-21-2001, 01:10 AM

Here, here Terry Ross! I agree completely!

dcangel · 06-19-2001, 03:05 PM

Yes, I have read terrible stories about Tallulah Bankhead, and the way she treated the cast members. A good book to read about what it was really like to work with Lucy is THE LUCY BOOK. A guide to her years on TV.

SitcomFan · 06-21-2001, 04:45 AM

Like Madness said Carol Burnett got flowers every birthday she had since she had met lucy i watched Finding Lucy and she said that

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Roz1013 · 06-22-2001, 03:39 AM

Wow, it's a good thing I wasn't at this board earlier because I think I would have flown off the handle with certain ::ahem:: comments made earlier. Luckily I wasn't and everyone else said things far better than I ever could. She was a truly beautiful person, inside and out, faults and all and I feel deeply honored that she has been a such a part of my life for so long even though she may have been a bit hot-headed. All that does is make her a real person, not some fantasy figure of perfection. It simply makes her human.

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"Happy Birthday Mrs. Mertz, and I hope you live another 75 years!"

Summer Girl · 06-25-2001, 03:56 PM

Hello all,

I'm new to this board! I do love Lucy, and want to say what has been said before about women. How come when a woman is strong, she is a bitch, but when a man is, he's admired. It's really quite disgusting!

I have a book called "Lucy in the Afternoon", by Jim Brochu. He knew her in her last year of her life and he paints a good picture of her for the most part. The book is absolutely wonderful and is filled with stories she told him about her life. It's so sad at the end, when he tells of Lucy having dreams of Desi after he died. I think they always loved each other. Has anyone seen videos of them with their grandchildren after they were divorced? It really looks like they have a longing to be together. So sad!!

~Summer

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Roz1013 · 06-25-2001, 06:27 PM

That sounds like an amazing book, I'll have to check it out. Welcome to the board Summer.

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08-23-2001, 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roz1013:
That sounds like an amazing book, I'll have to check it out. Welcome to the board Summer.

True, it does sound like an amazing book, but take it from one who knows, it isn't. Beside the book being 99% fiction, it was released moments after the death of Lucille Ball. Mr. Brochu, who seems to be a very clever man, was money-hungry, and found the perfect niche to fill his pocket, to cash in on the death of his "friend".

This book has been rejected by family and true friends of the Ball-Arnaz family. To read more about their opinions, see www.LucieArnaz.com , under the "Ask Lucie" section, where Lucie denounces it.

Another story you might find interesting -- Lucille Ball gave Mr. Brochu her last autographed photo she ever signed. He sold it for BIG BUCKS not long after her passing. Some friend.

05-14-2001, 10:24 PM	#16
dawsongirl Member Forum Icon Join Date: Jan 04, 2001 Posts: 53,134	I don't know, but I had lived through some of the crap she lived through, I'd seem like a "bitch" too. Imagine how you would feel if you found out the one true love of your life was cheating on you. Personally, I'd go nuts. It was all a coping mechanism. Everyone does it.

05-14-2001, 10:41 PM	#17
TVFan Member Occasional Poster Join Date: May 14, 2001 Location: North Hollywood, California, USA Posts: 7	If Lucy was such a "Horrible" person, then why did people like, Bob and Madelyn, Many Directors,Gale Gordon, Viv and Mary Jane Croft, continue to work with her. Mary Jane told me that she loved working with Lucy. Yes if you didn't do something correctly or she didn't like she would tell you. But this is only if you weren't being professional. She was a human being like all of us, and we aren't all always so pleasant! Bottom line! Lucy was an beautiful spirit on this planet. She brought so much love and healing to all she touched. She truly was amazing! Patrick

05-15-2001, 09:37 PM	#18
desilu #1 Lucy/Desi 4-EVER Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 23, 2000 Location: Battle Creek, Michigan USA Posts: 724	Patrick, Thank You for saying those nice things about Lucy. I know she had been known to be a little hard on people at times at work,but after all,it was her show and studio. She was my idol and always will be and not to mention a very wonderful and dear friend. And to whom it may concern,I have read every book ever printed on this lovely lady and my opinon will never change.

05-17-2001, 01:18 AM	#19
Montgomery Member Occasional Poster Join Date: May 04, 2000 Location: Billings,MT 59102 Posts: 20	Sorry. Looks like I touched a hot button. You all have good points. I guess mine was to see Lucy as a human, flaws and all. That's neither good or bad, just real. The bottom line I guess is, I love Lucy too! There you go.

05-17-2001, 01:15 PM	#20
jonesalana Member Occasional Poster Join Date: May 17, 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 32	Lucy A Bitch!!! I have grown up watching I Love Lucy...Find it hard to believe, but I guess it could be true!

05-19-2001, 07:56 PM	#21
Terry Ross Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Nov 20, 2000 Location: New Jersey Posts: 196	I think there is a happy medium in here. First of all, she was truly loyal to her friends (i.e. sending Carol Burnett flowers for her birthday on the very same day that she died). But there was another side to her: she wasn't the most loving mother and her two kids will admit to that. And there were actors who worked with her on her shows who despised her because of the way she treated them Right out of the mouths of Talula Bankhead, Richard Burton, and Milton Berle, she was mean and bossy. You can be a perfectist but not have to be mean at the same time. We all saw the person she wanted us to see; funny, naive, emotional, a friend. I personally believe that she changed when her marriage to Desi Arnaz ended and I have a felling she was never the same again.

05-21-2001, 01:10 AM	#22
dawsongirl Member Forum Icon Join Date: Jan 04, 2001 Posts: 53,134	Here, here Terry Ross! I agree completely!

06-19-2001, 03:05 PM	#23
dcangel Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jun 19, 2001 Posts: 13	Yes, I have read terrible stories about Tallulah Bankhead, and the way she treated the cast members. A good book to read about what it was really like to work with Lucy is THE LUCY BOOK. A guide to her years on TV.

06-21-2001, 04:45 AM	#24
SitcomFan Bonnie Hunt Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 16, 2001 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 286	Like Madness said Carol Burnett got flowers every birthday she had since she had met lucy i watched Finding Lucy and she said that ------------------ David Cole

06-22-2001, 03:39 AM	#25
Roz1013 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 05, 2001 Location: USA Posts: 261	Wow, it's a good thing I wasn't at this board earlier because I think I would have flown off the handle with certain ::ahem:: comments made earlier. Luckily I wasn't and everyone else said things far better than I ever could. She was a truly beautiful person, inside and out, faults and all and I feel deeply honored that she has been a such a part of my life for so long even though she may have been a bit hot-headed. All that does is make her a real person, not some fantasy figure of perfection. It simply makes her human. ------------------ "Happy Birthday Mrs. Mertz, and I hope you live another 75 years!"

06-25-2001, 03:56 PM	#26
Summer Girl Member First Time Poster Join Date: Jun 25, 2001 Posts: 1	Hello all, I'm new to this board! I do love Lucy, and want to say what has been said before about women. How come when a woman is strong, she is a bitch, but when a man is, he's admired. It's really quite disgusting! I have a book called "Lucy in the Afternoon", by Jim Brochu. He knew her in her last year of her life and he paints a good picture of her for the most part. The book is absolutely wonderful and is filled with stories she told him about her life. It's so sad at the end, when he tells of Lucy having dreams of Desi after he died. I think they always loved each other. Has anyone seen videos of them with their grandchildren after they were divorced? It really looks like they have a longing to be together. So sad!! ~Summer http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/frid...6044325782.jpg [This message has been edited by Summer Girl (edited 06-25-2001).]

06-25-2001, 06:27 PM	#27
Roz1013 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 05, 2001 Location: USA Posts: 261	That sounds like an amazing book, I'll have to check it out. Welcome to the board Summer. ------------------ "Happy Birthday Mrs. Mertz, and I hope you live another 75 years!"