"The Dick Van Dyke Show" vs. "Mary Tyler Moore" - Page 2 - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

treky · 08-23-2003, 03:20 AM

"The Dick van Dyke show". At least Rob talks to ALL the people he works with, and not just a few!

BlueEyesKid · 08-23-2003, 10:25 AM

LOL Treky. I always wondered what those people who work behind Mary and Murray where doing, and why they were never in on the hilarity that ensued at WJM...

HeartsOfIron · 10-01-2003, 12:45 PM

Someone had to actually do some work at that station!

AB · 03-17-2007, 03:02 PM

I love watching both shows but I like the comedy in Dick Van Dyke just a tad
better.

mstewart · 03-17-2007, 04:56 PM

MTM played two different characters on both shows. On DVDS she was more zany but still ladylike and on TMTMS she was more of the straight lady who responded to the situations around her. I liked MTM with Ann Morgan Guilbert, who played next door Millie on TDVDS, better than Valerie Harper, who played next door neighbor Rhoda on TMTMS. Don't get me wrong I am a big fan of Valerie Harper and I did enjoy watching her on TMTMS but Ann Morgan Guilbert and MTM did some great comedy together that is ranked up there with Lucille Ball and Vivian Vance. Too bad there were not episodes featured those two. On those two shows MTM played characters that were groundbreaking even though there was nothing new about being a housewife and being single. On TDVDS Mary showed that housewives don't wear pearls and dresses while doing housework and cooking. They more likely in pants and we got that through Laura Petrie. On TMTMS Mary put a different spin on the single life of being content on being single with a few dates here and there while being a career woman. Now on apartments that Mary Richards lived in I loved the high rise she moved into the last two seasons. More modern and gave Mary Richards more maturity.

Scoobiedoo30 · 03-17-2007, 05:57 PM

Both Show's

NOVARick · 03-17-2007, 09:32 PM

Both are wonderful shows, but for consistency, I would say "The Dick Van Dyke Show." It was top notch from the start. "The Mary Tyler Moore Show" was not very funny in the beginning. There were still merits to those early shows. The scripts were well structured in terms of defining the characters and their relationships, and the acting was superb. It's just that the laughs were rare. But once it got its groove several seasons in (the third season onward), some of the comedy produced on TMTMS was brilliant and, in my opinion, unsurpassed. So comparing the later seasons of TMTMS to TDVDS, I would say TMTMS wins hands down.

catlover79 · 05-13-2007, 06:40 PM

MTM by default. I've never seen much of DVD to have a fair opinion. But I love MTM; Mary and Rhoda remind me of myself.

jamesanthony · 05-29-2007, 08:30 PM

Dick Van Dyke's show had a strong physical comedy element in the performances of its leading man - it is a fun show to actually look at on the tv screen. I still can't get into Mary Tyler Moore's series. I can't relate to those characters.

PGood97041 · 05-23-2008, 12:02 AM

I was gonna cop out and say I can't pick one because they were both so great.
But if I had to select one...hmmmnnn...I guess I'd pick The Mary Tyler Moore Show (I'd never even make the decision unless somebody told me "You can only watch one of them ever again, so pick one").
1) Huge MTM guy, so TMTMS was obviously centered around Mary. Dick was incredibly talented, too, though.
2) I'm in journalism, so I enjoyed the newsroom scenes in TMTMS more than most, in addition to the home scenes.
3) I agree with those who believe the last four years of the MTMS show were unsurpassed for consistently great comedy.

In any event, when I think 1960s, I think TDVDS, and when I think 1970s, I think of TMTMS...it doesn't get any better than either of those shows!

SpunkiiMonkii7078 · 02-16-2009, 05:54 AM

I love both shows, but my heart completely belongs to Mary. It really does come down to personal preference though because both shows are so good.

Cloud9 Lorraine · 03-17-2009, 12:26 AM

I voted for TMTMS mostly because I liked Mary Richards better than Laura Petrie.

Marvo301 · 03-17-2009, 12:47 AM

I voted for DVDS. Lets face it, if it wasn't for the DVDS the MTMS would never have come into being. Mary learned her lessons well on DVDS and used what she learned there as a blueprint when putting together her own show. Also its fun watching Buddy and Sally compete for Rob's attention, or Laura and Millie cooking up a scheme.

LauraNamesake · 03-19-2009, 10:22 PM

Woah that's awful asking that!!! I'd have to say the Mary Tyler Moore Show, I think it's funnier. Don't get me wrong...I LOVE the Dick Van Dyke Show too...but I like MTM better

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08-23-2003, 03:20 AM	#16
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08-23-2003, 10:25 AM	#17
BlueEyesKid A Domestic Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 04, 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 152	LOL Treky. I always wondered what those people who work behind Mary and Murray where doing, and why they were never in on the hilarity that ensued at WJM...
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10-01-2003, 12:45 PM	#18
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03-17-2007, 05:57 PM	#21
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03-17-2007, 03:02 PM	#19
AB Member Eternal Member Forum Icon Join Date: Dec 26, 2006 Location: The South Posts: 59,428	I love watching both shows but I like the comedy in Dick Van Dyke just a tad better.

03-17-2007, 04:56 PM	#20
mstewart mstewart Senior Member Join Date: Jan 25, 2002 Location: California Posts: 1,780	MTM played two different characters on both shows. On DVDS she was more zany but still ladylike and on TMTMS she was more of the straight lady who responded to the situations around her. I liked MTM with Ann Morgan Guilbert, who played next door Millie on TDVDS, better than Valerie Harper, who played next door neighbor Rhoda on TMTMS. Don't get me wrong I am a big fan of Valerie Harper and I did enjoy watching her on TMTMS but Ann Morgan Guilbert and MTM did some great comedy together that is ranked up there with Lucille Ball and Vivian Vance. Too bad there were not episodes featured those two. On those two shows MTM played characters that were groundbreaking even though there was nothing new about being a housewife and being single. On TDVDS Mary showed that housewives don't wear pearls and dresses while doing housework and cooking. They more likely in pants and we got that through Laura Petrie. On TMTMS Mary put a different spin on the single life of being content on being single with a few dates here and there while being a career woman. Now on apartments that Mary Richards lived in I loved the high rise she moved into the last two seasons. More modern and gave Mary Richards more maturity.

03-17-2007, 09:32 PM	#22
NOVARick Member Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 19, 2005 Posts: 925	Both are wonderful shows, but for consistency, I would say "The Dick Van Dyke Show." It was top notch from the start. "The Mary Tyler Moore Show" was not very funny in the beginning. There were still merits to those early shows. The scripts were well structured in terms of defining the characters and their relationships, and the acting was superb. It's just that the laughs were rare. But once it got its groove several seasons in (the third season onward), some of the comedy produced on TMTMS was brilliant and, in my opinion, unsurpassed. So comparing the later seasons of TMTMS to TDVDS, I would say TMTMS wins hands down.

05-13-2007, 06:40 PM	#23
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05-29-2007, 08:30 PM	#24
jamesanthony Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 30, 2004 Posts: 2,180	Dick Van Dyke's show had a strong physical comedy element in the performances of its leading man - it is a fun show to actually look at on the tv screen. I still can't get into Mary Tyler Moore's series. I can't relate to those characters.

05-23-2008, 12:02 AM	#25
PGood97041 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 03, 2008 Location: Boston Posts: 747	I was gonna cop out and say I can't pick one because they were both so great. But if I had to select one...hmmmnnn...I guess I'd pick The Mary Tyler Moore Show (I'd never even make the decision unless somebody told me "You can only watch one of them ever again, so pick one"). 1) Huge MTM guy, so TMTMS was obviously centered around Mary. Dick was incredibly talented, too, though. 2) I'm in journalism, so I enjoyed the newsroom scenes in TMTMS more than most, in addition to the home scenes. 3) I agree with those who believe the last four years of the MTMS show were unsurpassed for consistently great comedy. In any event, when I think 1960s, I think TDVDS, and when I think 1970s, I think of TMTMS...it doesn't get any better than either of those shows!

02-16-2009, 05:54 AM	#26
SpunkiiMonkii7078 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 20, 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, USA Posts: 784	I love both shows, but my heart completely belongs to Mary. It really does come down to personal preference though because both shows are so good.
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03-17-2009, 12:26 AM	#27
Cloud9 Lorraine Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 10, 2007 Location: NY Posts: 342	I voted for TMTMS mostly because I liked Mary Richards better than Laura Petrie.

03-17-2009, 12:47 AM	#28
Marvo301 I'm NOT a Blockhead! Forum Celebrity Join Date: May 17, 2002 Location: The Great White North Posts: 21,460	I voted for DVDS. Lets face it, if it wasn't for the DVDS the MTMS would never have come into being. Mary learned her lessons well on DVDS and used what she learned there as a blueprint when putting together her own show. Also its fun watching Buddy and Sally compete for Rob's attention, or Laura and Millie cooking up a scheme.
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03-19-2009, 10:22 PM	#29
LauraNamesake Oh Rob!!! Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 13, 2008 Location: MD Posts: 277	Woah that's awful asking that!!! I'd have to say the Mary Tyler Moore Show, I think it's funnier. Don't get me wrong...I LOVE the Dick Van Dyke Show too...but I like MTM better
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