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Dusty's Fan · 01-17-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TVandSportsGuy

I don't think you understand, after winning the SB the man has MISSED the playoffs 4 times and the two times he made the playofs his team was one and done. So it was time to go.

So according to you, if you win a SB as a headcoach he can just go 0-16 the next 6 years.

Ask a fan of the Eagles, Bills, Titans, Chargers, Cardinals, Texans, or Seahawks if they would be willing to go 0-16 for 6 years after a Super Bowl Championship. I would take that, even though you're taking it to a ridiculous extreme to try to make me look bad.

Learn from the history: Chicago thought they could win with Wannstedt. Who are you TB fans going to get? Good luck, your rollercoaster ride is just beginning.

Mr. Television · 01-17-2009, 04:03 PM

Well Baltimore is one win away from a SB the year after Brian Billick was fired. Some coaches just wear out their welcome. I think it was time for Grudin to go. He won his SB with Dungy's team and has done nothing much since. And losing to the Oakland Raiders with a playoff spot on the line after being 9-3 at one point is ridiculous.

TVFactFan · 01-17-2009, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty's Fan

Ask a fan of the Eagles, Bills, Titans, Chargers, Cardinals, Texans, or Seahawks if they would be willing to go 0-16 for 6 years after a Super Bowl Championship. I would take that, even though you're taking it to a ridiculous extreme to try to make me look bad.

Learn from the history: Chicago thought they could win with Wannstedt. Who are you TB fans going to get? Good luck, your rollercoaster ride is just beginning.

When you are 9-3 and miss the playoffs it's time for a change

Dusty's Fan · 01-17-2009, 04:11 PM

I respect your opinion, but I just value a world championship more highly than the records of the years that follow. How many people even in Chicago can recall any of the Bears' records in the years other than Ditka's win or Smith's appearance?

If you're a hardcore fan, the W-L record and the playoff performance are very important. But to many, getting to the big show is the thing, and winning it even moreso. Lots of good teams missed the playoffs this year, which is not surprising given the size of the league and the stepped-up level of competition (parity is real).

TVFactFan · 01-17-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dusty's Fan

I respect your opinion, but I just value a world championship more highly than the records of the years that follow. How many people even in Chicago can recall any of the Bears' records in the years other than Ditka's win or Smith's appearance?

If you're a hardcore fan, the W-L record and the playoff performance are very important. But to many, getting to the big show is the thing, and winning it even moreso. Lots of good teams missed the playoffs this year, which is not surprising given the size of the league and the stepped-up level of
competition (parity is real).

The Point you are missing is that he was PAID to get the team more SB's or back in contention to get another SB and he didn't do that.

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Mr. Television 23 Years at Sitcoms Online Forum Icon Join Date: Jun 06, 2003 Location: Somewhere you're Not Posts: 62,147	Well Baltimore is one win away from a SB the year after Brian Billick was fired. Some coaches just wear out their welcome. I think it was time for Grudin to go. He won his SB with Dungy's team and has done nothing much since. And losing to the Oakland Raiders with a playoff spot on the line after being 9-3 at one point is ridiculous.
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01-17-2009, 04:11 PM	#19
Dusty's Fan Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 13, 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,092	I respect your opinion, but I just value a world championship more highly than the records of the years that follow. How many people even in Chicago can recall any of the Bears' records in the years other than Ditka's win or Smith's appearance? If you're a hardcore fan, the W-L record and the playoff performance are very important. But to many, getting to the big show is the thing, and winning it even moreso. Lots of good teams missed the playoffs this year, which is not surprising given the size of the league and the stepped-up level of competition (parity is real).