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Old 05-27-2007, 03:46 PM   #16
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No clue about AI. Never watched a split second in my life. The point that I'm making is, that no matter how you slice it, dice it, or toss it in the air, Lost (not just the finale), has lost millions of viewers, from season to season. It's kind of a young show for that to be happening, considering how strong it debuted.
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Lost's DVR rating was off the roof this season (#1 DVRed show of the season). The first two seasons maybe 1 million or so would be added on after seven days. This season it was doubled, and some episodes more than tripled of that.

I read several articles that House and The Office were the most DVR'd shows. I haven't heard anything about Lost. I am not saying that you are not correct, but The Hollywood Reporter and Variety posted the latter.
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I read several articles that House and The Office were the most DVR'd shows. I haven't heard anything about Lost. I am not saying that you are not correct, but The Hollywood Reporter and Variety posted the latter.
You have to look at each week's DVR ratings, not just a few. And I know which story you're talking about, and it does mention Lost:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...a75d470b7ce1f7
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You have to look at each week's DVR ratings, not just a few. And I know which story you're talking about, and it does mention Lost:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/...a75d470b7ce1f7

Even you have to admit that Lost is slipping. It just isn't water cooler talk anymore. Heroes and other shows are getting that talk now.
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Even you have to admit that Lost is slipping. It just isn't water cooler talk anymore. Heroes and other shows are getting that talk now.
That's for sure. I was obsessed with Lost for the first two seasons, but spent last fall swearing at and throwing pillows at my tv, lol. It's a coin toss when watching the show. It will either suck or be fantastic. The first two seasons were fantastic from start to finish. I can't recall a megahit show being so mismanaged before.
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Even you have to admit that Lost is slipping. It just isn't water cooler talk anymore. Heroes and other shows are getting that talk now.
Isn't water cooler talk? The latter part of this season was the best episodes of the series. Heroes gets the same numbers as Lost did this season. If I were allowed to post the DVR 7 day ratings, I would post them in the General board. But here is another "public" article:
http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...goryid=14&cs=1
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Isn't water cooler talk? The latter part of this season was the best episodes of the series. Heroes gets the same numbers as Lost did this season. If I were allowed to post the DVR 7 day ratings, I would post them in the General board. But here is another "public" article:
http://www.variety.com/article/VR111...goryid=14&cs=1

The quality might have returned, but there is a saying, "Too little, too late." I am not saying that Lost is finished, but at work for a couple of years all I heard from people was about Lost. Now, it is Heroes this and Heroes that.
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How is it too little too late? There are so many ways to watch a TV shows these days. DVD, DVR, iTunes, Network website. People have many more options to watch their favorite shows than even last year. Bring out the raw stats and you will see Lost is even to last year counting all these new ways to watch a show. If you want to talk about a show really down, then talk about 24.

I don't watch Heroes, but I know it is a water cooler hit like you said, but it is no Lost from season one.
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How is it too little too late? There are so many ways to watch a TV shows these days. DVD, DVR, iTunes, Network website. People have many more options to watch their favorite shows than even last year. Bring out the raw stats and you will see Lost is even to last year counting all these new ways to watch a show. If you want to talk about a show really down, then talk about 24.

I don't watch Heroes, but I know it is a water cooler hit like you said, but it is no Lost from season one.


When I say too little too late, it wasn't meant to say the show will never be watched again, just that it isn't MUST SEE TV like it use to be. 24 is another show that lost a lot of steam. The quality of that went down this year as well.

As far as water cooler talk comparing season 1 of Lost to Season 1 of Heroes, that is simply a matter of opinion. All I know, I work in an entertainment field, and the talk now is Heroes.
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If DVR, etc. adds a couple of million viewers to the tally this season, then it surely added numbers to the first two seasons as well. Maybe not as much, but I'm sure a good amount. Fact is, Lost has lost millions of viewers, from season to season. I don't even think ABC denies that. Why deny the sky being blue.

The God's honest truth is that all I hear from my family and friends (the ones still watching) is how it jumped the shark. I don't agree with that. The show still has more life to it, three years to be exact. The fact that ABC announced an ending date with abbreviated seasons says a lot.

I actually think those 16 episode seasons are a good idea. I think one of the problems with Lost is that they had to fill up too many hours with mystery and action. It's difficult to keep that momentum going, so the writers started phoning episodes in, as in the first six episodes last fall, concentrating on three characters in cages. Good Lord, what were they thinking. With only 16 episodes, I'm thinking less filler and confusion, and more quality and high drama. Often, less is best. HBO figured that out, a long time ago.
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Do you watch Heroes and Lost? I don't think you can or I can judge which show had a better first season. Maybe someone who watched both first seasons can. I was trying to say Heroes Season 1 is not even close to Lost Season 1 in the ratings.

I don't watch 24 either, but the ratings slid in March when Dancing with the Stars came and even more in April when Heroes returned, but Heroes was also way down from earlier in the year.

This 2006-07 season did not have a ratings sensation. They had moderate hits that look promising like Heroes, Brothers and Sisters, Ugly Betty and Shark. But none of them were 20 million type hits.
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If DVR adds a couple of million viewers to the tally this season, then it surely added numbers to the first two seasons as well. Maybe not as much, but I'm sure a good amount. Fact is, Lost has lost millions of viewers, from season to season. I don't even think ABC denies that. Why deny the sky being blue.
Janice, like I said last season its DVR ratings was just 1 million or so. Last season ABC didn't debut the iTunes or abc.com airings until April. Lost is #1 on iTunes and abc.com. Not to mention DVR. I don't know how much more I can try to explain this, there is more than one way to watch this show.

I think the reason people didn't want to watch live is because of the 10pm slot and the four month break from November to Feb. It will be better next year when all 16 air in consecutive weeks and the show will air in an 8 or 9pm slot. Kids and teens can't stay up at 10pm.
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Janice, like I said last season its DVR ratings was just 1 million or so. Last season ABC didn't debut the iTunes or abc.com airings until April. Lost is #1 on iTunes and abc.com. Not to mention DVR. I don't know how much more I can try to explain this, there is more than one way to watch this show.

I think the reason people didn't want to watch live is because of the 10pm slot and the four month break from November to Feb. It will be better next year when all 16 air in consecutive weeks and the show will air in a 8 or 9pm slot. Kids and teens can't stay up at 10pm.
Bottom line, has Lost lost viewers, season to season?
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Bottom line, has Lost lost viewers, season to season?
Season 2's ratings were up from season one. Though the latter part of season two was down from the earlier part, thanks to American Idol.
Season 3 is on par with the latter part of season two, if you count all these new ways to watch Lost.

The ways to watch TV is changing due to technology. I think that is the reason why many shows have suffered in the ratings the second half of this season.
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Okay Pavan, lots of fuzzy math going on there, lol. Lost is slipping. We all know it. I don't like it anymore than you or any Lost fan. It's got to be off about eight million viewers from the first season. Alternative viewing methods can't make up that many viewers. I'm hoping that next year, it picks up and gets back on top.
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