Donny Hansen passed away last year!

[JenniferS.]

Originally Posted by StackTime

Wow. That's an incredible find. He was/is guilty as guilty gets. That poor family.

Thank you. Sence he died pics are popping up. The one you cant see is Becky Donnies full sister She was at college and was away at the time at a friends house. She has nothing to do with it so she was covered. I was glad to find the pic. I was wondering what he looked like too at that time.

[JC1957]

Originally Posted by JenniferS.

Thank you. Sence he died pics are popping up. The one you can ntio see is Becky Donnies full sistelr She wqas ay college and was away at the tinem as friends housel. She has nothing to do with it so she was covered. I was glad to fuind the pic. I wqas wonder what he lokedl ike too at that time.

I just got a headache trying to read your post. Spellcheck can be your best friend.

[tvscript124]

I am watching this segment again now. The guy was guilty. I don't think it means anything that Julie told her doctor at the hospital that she didn't see anyone in the flash when she was shot. She could have blocked out the memory because it was too painful, but then it broke through when she was recovered. Or it could have been too chaotic a scene for her to remember right then when she was shot. She was in pain. Donny Hansen was guilty.

[dynoguy88]

Originally Posted by JenniferS.

Donny at the time of incident

The blurred-out one is sister Becky Hansen. She's not interviewed in the UM segment, but an actress plays her in the reenactment where Betty and Becky are at the police station when Donny is thrown in handcuffs.

I often wonder how she's been all these years, basically losing all three siblings. I assume she cut Donny off like her parents did.

[JenniferS.]

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[JenniferS.]

yep i posted that dynoguy88

[EighthStreet]

Originally Posted by JenniferS.

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If you're using speech to text just give it a once over

[XCalibur]

Originally Posted by JenniferS.

Donny at the time of incident

Good find. The guy in the reenactment did at least resemble him somewhat. Wonder how long before the incident that was taken?

[XCalibur]

Originally Posted by dynoguy88

The blurred-out one is sister Becky Hansen. She's not interviewed in the UM segment, but an actress plays her in the reenactment where Betty and Becky are at the police station when Donny is thrown in handcuffs.

I often wonder how she's been all these years, basically losing all three siblings. I assume she cut Donny off like her parents did.

You never know, she might have been like Debbie Race's parents unable to accept her brother's guilt like they couldn't accept their son in law's guilt. She might have stayed in touch with him.

Donnie's natural father supported him apparently not believing he was guilty. Possible she did too. In fact I'm guessing she and Donnie had the same natural father since she was older.

[XCalibur]

Originally Posted by tvscript124

I am watching this segment again now. The guy was guilty. I don't think it means anything that Julie told her doctor at the hospital that she didn't see anyone in the flash when she was shot. She could have blocked out the memory because it was too painful, but then it broke through when she was recovered. Or it could have been too chaotic a scene for her to remember right then when she was shot. She was in pain. Donny Hansen was guilty.

I think at the very least, he knew what happened. He was somehow involved. But I'm not sure what the intention was that night, if it was really to wipe out the family in a fire. There is a few holes in that theory, but something nefarious happened that night and he was involved.

[JenniferS.]

Originally Posted by EighthStreet

If you're using speech to text just give it a once over

well ilm sorry had a disabiltiy.geez

[JenniferS.]

Originally Posted by XCalibur

Good find. The guy in the reenactment did at least resemble him somewhat. Wonder how long before the incident that was taken?

Not to far back apparently. There was pod cast wer Donnys family shared that pic jad obituary I posted up thread. Leanred there was more to the case , then unsolved mysteries told.

[XCalibur]

Originally Posted by JenniferS.

Not to far back apparently. There was pod cast wer Donnys family shared that pic jad obituary I posted up thread. Leanred there was more to the case , then unsolved mysteries told.

Would love to see that, be interesting to know more about Donnie and what he may have been involved in leading up to this incident. Or if any of his close friends perceived any resentment or animosity towards his family. I've racked my brain over the years trying to think of a scenario he was not involved in this at least to some degree and it just refuses to come together.

[TheCars1986]

Originally Posted by XCalibur

I've racked my brain over the years trying to think of a scenario he was not involved in this at least to some degree and it just refuses to come together.

If it were just the murder weapon that he borrowed 3 days prior to the murders, I could maybe see how it was remotely possible that he wasn't involved, but he bought 5 gallons of gasoline 2 days prior to the murders. If I had to guess, I would say that Donny conspired with the two men seen lingering outside of the trailer on the night of the murders to kill his parents and make it look like an accident (fire) for life insurance purposes. Betty Hansen remembers coming out and seeing Donny yelling at someone and then started "chasing" them, and there was also a doctor who was in the ambulance with Julie when they were taking her to the hospital and she told him that Donny had helped her get out of the house.

IMO, these intruders came into the house with the intent of starting a fire, with Donny's full knowledge of what was going to happen. Julie wakes up, one of them shoots her with the shotgun, and that's when everything picks up around the time that Betty and Hans wake up. Donny probably did help Julie out of the house and started assisting in trying to put out the fire. At some point during the confusion, Jill wakes up and tries to escape and she's shot too. It's the only scenario, IMO, where Donny's actions during the fire make sense within his suspicious activities in the days leading up to the murders. I don't think he intended on having his sisters murdered.

[XCalibur]

Originally Posted by TheCars1986

If it were just the murder weapon that he borrowed 3 days prior to the murders, I could maybe see how it was remotely possible that he wasn't involved, but he bought 5 gallons of gasoline 2 days prior to the murders. If I had to guess, I would say that Donny conspired with the two men seen lingering outside of the trailer on the night of the murders to kill his parents and make it look like an accident (fire) for life insurance purposes. Betty Hansen remembers coming out and seeing Donny yelling at someone and then started "chasing" them, and there was also a doctor who was in the ambulance with Julie when they were taking her to the hospital and she told him that Donny had helped her get out of the house.

IMO, these intruders came into the house with the intent of starting a fire, with Donny's full knowledge of what was going to happen. Julie wakes up, one of them shoots her with the shotgun, and that's when everything picks up around the time that Betty and Hans wake up. Donny probably did help Julie out of the house and started assisting in trying to put out the fire. At some point during the confusion, Jill wakes up and tries to escape and she's shot too. It's the only scenario, IMO, where Donny's actions during the fire make sense within his suspicious activities in the days leading up to the murders. I don't think he intended on having his sisters murdered.

I honestly think that the extraordinarily tragic nature of this case overshadows the fact that it is also exceedingly bizarre. The more I think about it in fact the less it makes sense.

It has to start with Donnie, I mean if this guy was TRYING to get himself implicated in a crime, he could not have done a much better job. Not only because of his actions leading up to murders but because of the absurd story he came up with for his version of what happened.

Something I haven't even seen discussed, some people forget Donnie wasn't even living there at the time.

So lets say for a moment that his detractors are right, that this was about collecting insurance money and wiping the rest of his family out. Several things don't make sense:

1. If Donnie used these two accomplices seen at the trailer to do this, then why did he even need to be there at all? Why not just have them do it from afar? Then he instantly has an alibi. I suppose its possible he just wanted to be there either to make sure it got done or because he was just a sick puppy and wanted to take part in it himself. But its still odd.

2. Its already been mentioned that Donnie would have to have shared his part with his older sister, and if he didn't intend for his younger sisters to die then he has to share it with them too.

3. One thing not mentioned either is, if Donnie had two accomplices you have to assume that he had to pay them off as well. There is nothing to indicate that Donnie had a lot of money himself so you have to assume he offered them payment out of the insurance money Unless these two unknown accomplices were doing this for some other reason and if so why?

But my point is, between him, his older sister, and the hitmen that would cut down his share of the insurance money considerably making it a less strong motive. Now I don't know how much it was but from what I can gather Hans and Betty were pretty well off so I guess it was pretty substantial, but having to share it with this many others weakens the motive. And if he didn't intend to kill his younger sisters that weakens it even more.

And from the timeline of events and Donnie's actions, it seems likely the two men seen at the trailer really were there and took part cause it sounds like Donnie couldn't have shot Jill as she was shot after the others had gone to get fire extinguishers.

Also the story Donnie gave and the defense's scenario was exceedingly absurd. You would think Donnie could have made up a more believable story, in their scenario he sees that Julie was shot and goes to her, but apparently he denied even seeing the perps and they didn't bother to shoot him. Donnie could have just as easily said he saw the perps and even if he wanted to conceal their identity he could have said it was dark and he didn't see their faces or even could have claimed they were wearing masks. At least that would have been plausible. And we know Betty saw him telling someone to get out.

I mean its pretty obvious Donnie did not get away with this because he was smart, but because he was just incredibly lucky.

I just think if Donnie's true intention was wiping out the whole family, he could have done it before anyone knew what was happening instead of helping Julie out and trying to put the fire out.

The scenario I am leaning towards now is that Donnie was just involved in something whether it was drugs or gambling, owed someone money perhaps the people who helped carry out the murders, and he initially agreed to do something nefarious there maybe kill somebody and had a last minute attack of conscience or else chickened out and just decided not to go through with it pissing his accomplices off and things got out of hand. But he was in to deep to tell the truth. I think he could have been tricked into buying the shotgun shells, borrowing the shotgun, and buying the gasoline. He showed he wasn't that smart.

I don't know obviously, we may never know the full truth. That is kind of where I'm leaning.

Even though apparently Betty and Hans disowned him, Betty in particular because he was her son even though she disowned him in public, in private I wonder if she still thought of him and wondered just what happened and how deeply involved he was. Or did she just adopt the view he was an irredeemable killer and a lost soul? Maybe she had a little bit of hope his intention was not to wipe out the family and he was just involved in something that got out of control in which case she might could have forgiven him. But I guess we will never know.

Sad and tragic case all around.