Horribly SAD moments on UM

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Originally Posted by tvscript124

* Bizarre demands (the twelve people named in the Hearin note and the demand for the ransom for Nancy Guthrie in crypto)

I wouldn't call the demands bizarre.

In the Hearin case those people had been sued by School Pictures and lost a significant amount of money, the motivation behind the demand was clearly related to that.

Its unclear at this point if the Guthrie note is in fact legitimate, but the motivation for asking for crypto is obviously its resistance to being tracked, ease of laundering, and international portability.

[tvscript124]

Originally Posted by MediaHoarder

I wouldn't call the demands bizarre.

In the Hearin case those people had been sued by School Pictures and lost a significant amount of money, the motivation behind the demand was clearly related to that.

Its unclear at this point if the Guthrie note is in fact legitimate, but the motivation for asking for crypto is obviously its resistance to being tracked, ease of laundering, and international portability.

Maybe bizarre is the wrong word. And crypto makes sense. But in the case of the twelve people in the Hearin case, half the people who were sued did not want any money and returned the checks. Maybe they feared that taking the money would look suspicious.

The FBI seems to be treating the Guthrie note as legit for some reason, but it's still unclear if it's real. If it's a hoax, it would potentially be a cruel hoax like some of the ones on UM.

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Originally Posted by tvscript124

Maybe bizarre is the wrong word. And crypto makes sense. But in the case of the twelve people in the Hearin case, half the people who were sued did not want any money and returned the checks. Maybe they feared that taking the money would look suspicious.

The FBI seems to be treating the Guthrie note as legit for some reason, but it's still unclear if it's real. If it's a hoax, it would potentially be a cruel hoax like some of the ones on UM.

Yes I think all but 3 or something returned the cheques. That was likely a combination of not wanting to look suspicious and feeling it was wrong to recover lost funds, even if lost unfairly, as a result of such a crime.

The theory that prosecutors had, although never really proven, was that 11 of the 12 were not involved in the kidnapping, ie. they weren't asking for the money, which makes it more believable they would just return it. Although according to the wiki 3 did not.

The Guthrie note could well be an attempt to cash in on the situation by someone who had nothing to do with it. If the timing is tight enough that may rule out such a scheme, but otherwise someone hearing of a missing person tied to someone with significant assets could easily prompt a crypto ransom note (scammers try to get crypto and other assets from people even when no one is missing for that matter).

[tvscript124]

Originally Posted by MediaHoarder

Yes I think all but 3 or something returned the cheques. That was likely a combination of not wanting to look suspicious and feeling it was wrong to recover lost funds, even if lost unfairly, as a result of such a crime.

The theory that prosecutors had, although never really proven, was that 11 of the 12 were not involved in the kidnapping, ie. they weren't asking for the money, which makes it more believable they would just return it. Although according to the wiki 3 did not.

The Guthrie note could well be an attempt to cash in on the situation by someone who had nothing to do with it. If the timing is tight enough that may rule out such a scheme, but otherwise someone hearing of a missing person tied to someone with significant assets could easily prompt a crypto ransom note (scammers try to get crypto and other assets from people even when no one is missing for that matter).

Wynn was the only one that was ever held responsible for the kidnapping to my knowledge.

They have not been able to fully authenticate the first note, but they're all over it, and they're taking the subsequent notes seriously.

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When elderly couple John and Virginia Constable were killed by drunk driver Steve White. Thank God they caught the lowlife. I know AUD (alcohol use disorder) is a legitimate disease, but drunk driving is something else entirely.

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The Signal Mountain Murders. It's one of the scariest cases, and also the saddest. Those men did not have to die.