Ellender double homicide

[crystaldawn]

Originally Posted by Ladydragon2226

THIS FIRST POST IN THIS THREAD IS THE MOST TELLING- LOOK AT ALL OF THE SOURCES, i.e. NEWSPAPERS, SHERIFF'S OFFICE, COURTS, ETC.
IT IS SOOOO OBVIOUS THAT PRUDHOMME ACTED ALONE, AND WAS EVIL.

IT IS ALSO OBVIOUS THAT ADKINS GOT RAILROADED, DUE TO HUEY LITTLETON'S OBSESSION, AND UNWILLINGNESS TO DEAL WITH THE REALITY THAT THE ONE AND ONLY GUILTY PARTY, PRUDHOMME, GOT OFF EASY WITH SUICIDE.

I CAN UNDERSTAND A PARENTS WANT TO SEE "JUSTICE" FOR THE IGNORANT, RIDICULOUS, UNWARRANTED AND WHATEVER ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY; SENSELESS, MURDER OF THEIR CHILD AND CHILD'S SPOUSE.
AND SUICIDE WAS AN EASY OUT FOR PRUDHOMME. BUT HE LEFT A N-O-T-E STATING HE ACTED ALONE, AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY WAS SPENT BY LITTLETON, NO MATTER WHO BRIBED WHO, PROMISED WHATEVER TO WHOEVER, NO MATTER WHAT- THE TRULY GUILTY PARTY KILLED HIMSELF.

IN LITTLETON'S FERVOR, NOT ONLY AS A GRIEVING PARENT, BUT AS AN "INVESTIGATOR", HE COULD NOT, AND WAS NOT WILLING TO LET THE TRUTH DIE WITH PRUDHOMME'S CHOICE TO KILL HIMSELF.

THE "INVESTIGATOR" PART OF HIM, AND THE GAUL TO CHALLENGE THE SHERIFF TO AN ELECTION, SHOWS JUST HOW BLINDSIDED HE IS/WAS, AND THE DEPTH OF HIS TUNNELVISION.

LITTLETON WANTED TO LOOK SOMEONE IN THE FACE, ANYONE AFTER PRUDHOMME, THE ONLY KILLER, KILLED HIMSELF, IN A "COURT OF LAW" TO SEE AND HEAR "JUSTICE" CARRIED OUT FOR THE DEATH OF HIS DAUGHTER.

AGAIN, IT'S OBVIOUS, THAT LITTLETON WAS WILLING TO GO TO GREAT LENGTHS, WITH HIS "NAME AND MONEY" TO DO ANYTHING TO SEE ANYONE GET TIME FOR THIS.

IF YOU READ THE ENTIRE ORIGINAL POST, YOU CAN SEE THAT ADKINS WAS ONLY GUILTY OF POSESSION OF STOLEN PROPERTY, AND EVEN THAT'S A STRETCH, BECAUSE HE WAS IN THE BACK SEAT OF THE VEHICLE! ONLY BECAUSE THE OTHER 2 PEOPLE IN THE VEHICLE, BESIDES PRUDHOMME AND ADKINS, WERE MUCH YOUNGER, AND THEY REALLY GOT OFF EASY.

BUT ADKINS... HE GOT SCREWED... LOOK AT HOW MANY TIMES THEY CHANGED THE CHARGES ON HIM, AFTER ORIGINALLY FINDING HIM COMPLETELY NOT GUILTY OF A-N-Y PART OF THE MURDER. YES, HE RODE IN THE STOLEN VEHICLE. BUT IN NO WAY SHOULD HE HAVE HAD TO LIVE THROUGH Y-E-A-R-S OF LITTLETON'S PARANOIA AND EVIL, SELFISH DRIVE TO SEE SOMEONE ACTUALLY PLEAD TO SOME TYPE OF "CHARGE" RELATED TO THE DEATHS.

RIDICULOUS... AND TO THINK, THAT EVEN NOW, AS LATE AS 2013 PEOPLE ARE STILL PULLING BITS AND PIECES OF THE FACTS, TO MAKE THEIR OWN ASSUMPTIONS.
WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE ASSUME. MAKES AN "ASS" OUT OF "U", NOT "ME".

REALLY LET THIS GO, LET THE PEOPLE LIVE THEIR LIVES, THE ELLENDER'S DAUGHTER IS PROBABLY LIVING QUITE WELL, AND LITTLETON IS PROBABLY STILL NOT HAPPY ABOUT CONVICTING INNOCENT PEOPLE.

THE BEAUTY OF ALL OF THIS, ESPECIALLY LITTLETON'S ACTIONS, IS KARMA IS A BEAST... "VENGANCE IS MINE", SAYETH THE LORD, AND I PRAY OFTEN FOR HIM TO GET HIS... MAY BE SLOW, MAY COME FAST... MAY BE MANY, MANY, MANY THINGS ALL OF THE TIME, OR OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. BUT SHAME ON HIM, FOR RUINING INNOCENT PEOPLE'S LIVES.

JUSTICE IS SUPPOSED TO BE BLIND- WOE FOR THOSE WHO CHEAT THE SCALES...

ON A MUCH BETTER NOTE: THE ELLENDER'S ARE IN HEAVEN! REJOICE!

This board is to discuss this case and all the theories and rumors that were brought up in UM. We are not going to modify the rules, if you don't like what you read than don't come on here.

Also posting in all caps is against the forum rules.

[ravyrn]

Originally Posted by crystaldawn

This board is to discuss this case and all the theories and rumors that were brought up in UM. We are not going to modify the rules, if you don't like what you read than don't come on here.

Also posting in all caps is against the forum rules.

That poster is likely has relations to someone tied to the case, possibly Adkins. Lady Dragons is a user name I see a lot of female athletes from nearby DeRidder High School use as the school's mascot/sport teams are Dragons/Lady Dragons.

[Francium]

Originally Posted by MegtheEgg86

No errors--you remembered correctly. LE did check this information out and never uncovered a video. I personally don't believe one ever existed.

ETA: I'm pretty sure the individual that attested to seeing the alleged video was named Chip Richard. He may have actually been the ONLY person that attested to this.

He struck me as a liar too. I know in tape trading circles that people lie just because it makes them feel special to have unique "inside info" - or something only he but not you will ever see.

To some degree, I feel the case is a done deal and won't rewatch it to reexamine who is and isn't lying.

I don't think, however, a party ever took place after the murders, and I don't think the corpses were sexually molested (which came from the tape guy). Late teen males who probably never held a job aren't going to be able to clean up after a party, which can go pretty rowdy from a crowd with obvious impulse control issues.

It was telling too that there were conflicting accounts on whether Pamela or Eric were shot first, and UM never cared to make an issue of that. So much of this is hearsay and back to human psychology of people who want to feel special.

I don't think more than three, but probably two, were involved in the murders. The rest went from there. I can see a girl telling two "Satanic" males to not hurt the baby and getting her way. Too many actors involving in such a slaying would make havoc.

This might be the only UM episode where I felt the Satanic angle had some legitimacy, and it's interesting that the one to have legitimacy comes from a group that clearly had no real doctrine or organization, which goes back to the idea that Satanic cults never really existed.

[Hambone2421]

I just saw this segment for the first time. Wow. I didn't know a case as bizarre and disturbing as this ever made it to Unsolved Mysteries. I'm glad those responsible have been apprehended and punished correctly.

As far as the mysterious video. My guess is, one does not exist. The group of people that killed the Ellenders weren't exactly the sharpest tools in the shed, so for a video to have never been leaked or found by now would require a lot of secrecy. The same can be said of them destroying the tape. By now, someone would have said it was destroyed. I believe all of those who said they "saw" the tape, were actually there when the murders took place and are just describing what they saw, not what they viewed on a tape.

[justins5256]

Originally Posted by Hambone2421

I just saw this segment for the first time. Wow. I didn't know a case as bizarre and disturbing as this ever made it to Unsolved Mysteries. I'm glad those responsible have been apprehended and punished correctly.

As far as the mysterious video. My guess is, one does not exist. The group of people that killed the Ellenders weren't exactly the sharpest tools in the shed, so for a video to have never been leaked or found by now would require a lot of secrecy. The same can be said of them destroying the tape. By now, someone would have said it was destroyed. I believe all of those who said they "saw" the tape, were actually there when the murders took place and are just describing what they saw, not what they viewed on a tape.

I've posted similar sentiments over the years. This has got to be one of the most disturbing cases in terms of subject matter that UM has ever profiled.

My belief is that only a handful of teenagers and young adults were involved in the actual murders. However, I think the case was hampered by the fact that most of the suspects were teenagers, this appears to have been a relatively small town, and there were allegations that Huey Littleton was offering rewards and cash incentives for information.

I think the above circumstances coalesced to create all these wild rumors about a party and some of the more outlandish and bizarre claims about this case. In the end, so many potential players were named and so many accusations made it became difficult to discern fact from fiction. To that end, I do think a lot of people probably said they had information, and such information was usually gleaned because either they were there themselves, or they knew and talked to someone that was. Such statements were likely either outright bogus, or exaggerations.

Again though, I feel like the number of people with direct involvement was likely small and the story just took on a life of it's own. I also can't help but feel for the family, especially Huey Littleton. The fact that the likely instigator of the plot committed suicide and never had to truly pay for his crimes no doubt played a part in Littleton's need to find someone to hold accountable.

[Omen]

I just finished watching the episode on Pam and Eric Ellender. I can't believe what how the case was handled. What a mess. Then when I found out that the sheriff's son was at the party, I understood why. This is case is so obvious yet they made it so difficult to solve. Shame on them. A young child is without his/her parents. I pray that Huey can get justice. From what I seen those who were charged got off lightly. There are others who got away with murder.

[Rayroy]

No more drinks for this table!

Originally Posted by Ladydragon2226

THIS FIRST POST IN THIS THREAD IS THE MOST TELLING- LOOK AT ALL OF THE SOURCES, i.e. NEWSPAPERS, SHERIFF'S OFFICE, COURTS, ETC.
IT IS SOOOO OBVIOUS THAT PRUDHOMME ACTED ALONE, AND WAS EVIL.

IT IS ALSO OBVIOUS THAT ADKINS GOT RAILROADED, DUE TO HUEY LITTLETON'S OBSESSION, AND UNWILLINGNESS TO DEAL WITH THE REALITY THAT THE ONE AND ONLY GUILTY PARTY, PRUDHOMME, GOT OFF EASY WITH SUICIDE.

I CAN UNDERSTAND A PARENTS WANT TO SEE "JUSTICE" FOR THE IGNORANT, RIDICULOUS, UNWARRANTED AND WHATEVER ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY; SENSELESS, MURDER OF THEIR CHILD AND CHILD'S SPOUSE.
AND SUICIDE WAS AN EASY OUT FOR PRUDHOMME. BUT HE LEFT A N-O-T-E STATING HE ACTED ALONE, AND NO MATTER HOW MUCH MONEY WAS SPENT BY LITTLETON, NO MATTER WHO BRIBED WHO, PROMISED WHATEVER TO WHOEVER, NO MATTER WHAT- THE TRULY GUILTY PARTY KILLED HIMSELF.

IN LITTLETON'S FERVOR, NOT ONLY AS A GRIEVING PARENT, BUT AS AN "INVESTIGATOR", HE COULD NOT, AND WAS NOT WILLING TO LET THE TRUTH DIE WITH PRUDHOMME'S CHOICE TO KILL HIMSELF.

THE "INVESTIGATOR" PART OF HIM, AND THE GAUL TO CHALLENGE THE SHERIFF TO AN ELECTION, SHOWS JUST HOW BLINDSIDED HE IS/WAS, AND THE DEPTH OF HIS TUNNELVISION.

LITTLETON WANTED TO LOOK SOMEONE IN THE FACE, ANYONE AFTER PRUDHOMME, THE ONLY KILLER, KILLED HIMSELF, IN A "COURT OF LAW" TO SEE AND HEAR "JUSTICE" CARRIED OUT FOR THE DEATH OF HIS DAUGHTER.

AGAIN, IT'S OBVIOUS, THAT LITTLETON WAS WILLING TO GO TO GREAT LENGTHS, WITH HIS "NAME AND MONEY" TO DO ANYTHING TO SEE ANYONE GET TIME FOR THIS.

IF YOU READ THE ENTIRE ORIGINAL POST, YOU CAN SEE THAT ADKINS WAS ONLY GUILTY OF POSESSION OF STOLEN PROPERTY, AND EVEN THAT'S A STRETCH, BECAUSE HE WAS IN THE BACK SEAT OF THE VEHICLE! ONLY BECAUSE THE OTHER 2 PEOPLE IN THE VEHICLE, BESIDES PRUDHOMME AND ADKINS, WERE MUCH YOUNGER, AND THEY REALLY GOT OFF EASY.

BUT ADKINS... HE GOT SCREWED... LOOK AT HOW MANY TIMES THEY CHANGED THE CHARGES ON HIM, AFTER ORIGINALLY FINDING HIM COMPLETELY NOT GUILTY OF A-N-Y PART OF THE MURDER. YES, HE RODE IN THE STOLEN VEHICLE. BUT IN NO WAY SHOULD HE HAVE HAD TO LIVE THROUGH Y-E-A-R-S OF LITTLETON'S PARANOIA AND EVIL, SELFISH DRIVE TO SEE SOMEONE ACTUALLY PLEAD TO SOME TYPE OF "CHARGE" RELATED TO THE DEATHS.

RIDICULOUS... AND TO THINK, THAT EVEN NOW, AS LATE AS 2013 PEOPLE ARE STILL PULLING BITS AND PIECES OF THE FACTS, TO MAKE THEIR OWN ASSUMPTIONS.
WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE ASSUME. MAKES AN "ASS" OUT OF "U", NOT "ME".

REALLY LET THIS GO, LET THE PEOPLE LIVE THEIR LIVES, THE ELLENDER'S DAUGHTER IS PROBABLY LIVING QUITE WELL, AND LITTLETON IS PROBABLY STILL NOT HAPPY ABOUT CONVICTING INNOCENT PEOPLE.

THE BEAUTY OF ALL OF THIS, ESPECIALLY LITTLETON'S ACTIONS, IS KARMA IS A BEAST... "VENGANCE IS MINE", SAYETH THE LORD, AND I PRAY OFTEN FOR HIM TO GET HIS... MAY BE SLOW, MAY COME FAST... MAY BE MANY, MANY, MANY THINGS ALL OF THE TIME, OR OVER A PERIOD OF TIME. BUT SHAME ON HIM, FOR RUINING INNOCENT PEOPLE'S LIVES.

JUSTICE IS SUPPOSED TO BE BLIND- WOE FOR THOSE WHO CHEAT THE SCALES...

ON A MUCH BETTER NOTE: THE ELLENDER'S ARE IN HEAVEN! REJOICE!

[Rayroy]

Video cameras were very expensive back then. I would be more inclined to believe the guy if he said they had photographs and if he was not obviously a liar. If he had said they stole the victims' video camera and recorded, that might have been more believable. Honestly, I think he said all that sick stuff to stick it to the shamus.

As for a party, if there were that many people there, there should be a gigantic mess and a group of teenagers aren't known for being reserved and organized. Plus, when would this party have ended if the police were there the next day and the victims were killed late at night?

Whether true or not, this has to be the story on Unsolved Mysteries with the sickest details.

[James T]

Huey shows how some people just cannot accept reality, like the Berkowitz guy Maury Terry. Another Satanic cult-this one of skateboarding kids was invented or was that just the acronym they randomly came up with, because a few scumbag kids high on drugs & their own egos wanting a flash car & killing the home occupants for the keys to it is just too easy right? Some murdering cult eh-they used the gun in the victims house, didn't even take any weapons apparently.

The fact they left behind an infant should have told him it wasn't a cult-because we all know these Satanic cults love sacrificing & eating kids right? Guess what-like Amy Billig's mother if you go around offering people money for information, they will feed you all kinds of rubbish, or just confirm what you are suggesting to them.