Segments that have not aged well...

[DALLASTEXAN!!]

Originally Posted by Gelatinous Goo

I recently watched a segment where RS said something like, "Wife-beating consists of 35% of all calls made to 911".

[danmanx]

That statistic was on the Jim Burnside/Annette S one in which he killed his estranged wife.

Anyway, the worst segment of all time that hasn't aged well is the Faces on Mars. This was proven 100% false and stupid many years ago with better pictures.

[WishfulDreamer]

Originally Posted by danmanx

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Anyway, the worst segment of all time that hasn't aged well is the Faces on Mars. This was proven 100% false and stupid many years ago with better pictures.

I have a soft spot for this segment due to the music and some of the amusing commentary. It's hilarious what the "face" actually looks like in high resolution

[tvscript124]

Moss Beach Distillery. I used to love it, but after watching it again and remembering that Sylvia Browne was involved, it has lost all credibility. That is the one where Robert Stack famously smirked while saying, "I've been here all day and have not seen a single ghost." Also, "Ghost Hunters" busted the restaurant for exaggerating the hauntings.

[Gelatinous Goo]

During one Lost Loves segment, RS says something like, "Many Native Americans in Canada were taken from their homes as children...".

Native Americans are American, RS. Canadians don't call our First Nations people Native Americans, and they certainly don't refer to themselves this way. Never have.

[jets4life]

Originally Posted by Gelatinous Goo

During one Lost Loves segment, RS says something like, "Many Native Americans in Canada were taken from their homes as children...".

Native Americans are American, RS. Canadians don't call our First Nations people Native Americans, and they certainly don't refer to themselves this way. Never have.

I am from Canada, and yes, indigenous people were until recently, referred to as "Native Americans" even in Canada. I'm the last 20 years, most call them either "Natives", First Nations", or Aboriginal. However in the late 20th century, most non-native people did indeed refer to them as such.

It was far better than calling them "Indians " as that was common before the 90s. Many Native gangs in Western Canada use the word "Indian" (Indian Posse, Crazy Indians, etc), probably to turn the word Indian into something respectful.

This probably came about, as many indigenous young ppl in the 90s copied the LA street gangs, and gangsta rap, where "*****s" is often used.

[Gelatinous Goo]

Originally Posted by jets4life

I am from Canada, and yes, indigenous people were until recently, referred to as "Native Americans" even in Canada. I'm the last 20 years, most call them either "Natives", First Nations", or Aboriginal. However in the late 20th century, most non-native people did indeed refer to them as such.

It was far better than calling them "Indians " as that was common before the 90s. Many Native gangs in Western Canada use the word "Indian" (Indian Posse, Crazy Indians, etc), probably to turn the word Indian into something respectful.

This probably came about, as many indigenous young ppl in the 90s copied the LA street gangs, and gangsta rap, where "*****s" is often used.

I'm Canadian as well. Nobody in my area ever used "Native Americans". We went from "Indians" to "Natives" to "First Nations"/"Aboriginal" to "Indigenous". I just use "Natives" and "First Nations", as I prefer the sound of them, and all Natives I know or who I've met are fine with either being used.

[Street Novelist]

Originally Posted by Gelatinous Goo

During one Lost Loves segment, RS says something like, "Many Native Americans in Canada were taken from their homes as children...".

Native Americans are American, RS. Canadians don't call our First Nations people Native Americans, and they certainly don't refer to themselves this way. Never have.

You're nitpicking. In the United States, we called them Native Americans for decades. Robert Stack was an American. Therefore, him using the term "Native American" is not a case of not aging well. Since that airing, most Americans I know just say Indians, as many Indians have publicly stated they don't like being called Native Americans, as any person born in America is, by law, a native American.

[DALLASTEXAN!!]

Originally Posted by Street Novelist

You're nitpicking. In the United States, we called them Native Americans for decades. Robert Stack was an American. Therefore, him using the term "Native American" is not a case of not aging well. Since that airing, most Americans I know just say Indians, as many Indians have publicly stated they don't like being called Native Americans, as any person born in America is, by law, a native American.

this is what I have heard, at least with tribes located in the USA. Indigenous is probably the best word to use, but most people that I have listened to prefer to be called by their tribal name. I've also heard some use the term Indian because that's what they used when they learned English and passed it down. For example I've heard some say "my Indian name is" or "I speak Indian"

It could be different based on where you go. we are talking about vast territories with a lot of people who are different than the other.

Since this was an American production about a story based in Canada, UM should have been aiming to use the actual language used in the region that the story was about. I'm not sure what that would have been, but I don't see this as something that does not age well. a lot of people, like then, still use the term Native American or First Nation.

[jets4life]

Originally Posted by Gelatinous Goo

I'm Canadian as well. Nobody in my area ever used "Native Americans". We went from "Indians" to "Natives" to "First Nations"/"Aboriginal" to "Indigenous". I just use "Natives" and "First Nations", as I prefer the sound of them, and all Natives I know or who I've met are fine with either being used.

On employment forms in the past, they asked are you a visible minority? and it had a box for "Native Americans." Until they last 15 years, where "First Nations" people is used, media and news would routinely use "Native American" to describe Indigenous people.

If one were to look at the definition of "Native American", it would be used to describe Indigenous people of North America. It's not a big deal, but to say throughout history the word "Native American," is used to only describe Native peoples in the USA, is factually incorrect.

[jets4life]

Originally Posted by DALLASTEXAN!!

this is what I have heard, at least with tribes located in the USA. Indigenous is probably the best word to use, but most people that I have listened to prefer to be called by their tribal name. I've also heard some use the term Indian because that's what they used when they learned English and passed it down. For example I've heard some say "my Indian name is" or "I speak Indian"

Not many people know this outside the city I am from, but "Winnipeg" comes from the Cree word used to describe "Muddy Waters." Our two main rivers, the Red and Assiniboine, have large deposits of clay at the bottom of the river, making the rivers look muddy. Hence, the name.

In the 20th Century, Indigenous people were referred to as "Indians." There was also the "Indian Act" of Canada, which was implemented in 1876, which Governs matters and issues related to the First Nations people, including Land claims, status, reservations, etc.

This can be very confusing, especially in recent times, since there has been a huge influx of immigrants from India in the last 20 years.

[DALLASTEXAN!!]

Originally Posted by jets4life

Not many people know this outside the city I am from, but "Winnipeg" comes from the Cree word used to describe "Muddy Waters." Our two main rivers, the Red and Assiniboine, have large deposits of clay at the bottom of the river, making the rivers look muddy. Hence, the name.

In the 20th Century, Indigenous people were referred to as "Indians." There was also the "Indian Act" of Canada, which was implemented in 1876, which Governs matters and issues related to the First Nations people, including Land claims, status, reservations, etc.

This can be very confusing, especially in recent times, since there has been a huge influx of immigrants from India in the last 20 years.

It is confusing and I think I will always yield to whatever someone says they want to be called. I think if able, I will always use the tribal name if I can. I do think there are a lot of people who are ignorant and don't care enough to take the time to get it right. That said, there are a lot of people who don't want to offend others so they stick with terms that are the most comfortable, like Native American. Generally speaking, Native American will not be offensive (I don't think), but I have seen many people correct that term in the sense to make the point that the average American citizen is a Native American. and I guess that is a fair point. In the past few years I have tried to educate myself on learning oral history of the various tribal nations on our continent as opposed to leaning on what was taught in school, which was very little to say the least.

I did not know that about Winnipeg. There are a lot of geographical names in the Americas that are named after indigenous peoples or were named by indigenous and either translated or directly spoken close to the original format another conquering language, like English, Spanish, or French. It just further validates the heritage that was here long before Europeans settled and conquered our lands. Mexico and Canada are great examples that very much embrace its primitive heritage, even in the Spanish, English, and French languages.

I thought you were a Winnipeg Jets fan based on your namesake. That's pretty cool. I'm a stars fan, I know we are not on the same side there, but I love the sport and have a lot of respect for the Jets.

[jets4life]

Originally Posted by DALLASTEXAN!!

I thought you were a Winnipeg Jets fan based on your namesake. That's pretty cool. I'm a stars fan, I know we are not on the same side there, but I love the sport and have a lot of respect for the Jets.

Yes the Stars seem to have our number, as of late..

[xxxxmattxxxx69]

In the Johnny Lee Wilson case Robert Stack brings up him being mildly ********. In today’s day and age they would probably want him saying special needs. The Kevin Paulson capture hasn’t aged well considering stores would never want employees confronting anyone.

[BuffaloBill]

Originally Posted by jets4life

Yes the Stars seem to have our number, as of late..

Stanley, Schenn, and Pearson escaped the Jets this year for a playoff run in Buffalo. I kind of figured you were a Winnipeg Jets fan. Since the Sabres historical draught ended, NY Jets fans are all hiding now that they are alone by far at 15 years and going.